Discussion in 'Politics & Law' started by Jmac00, Jan 7, 2019.
So, You Think We Don't Have a National Gun Registry... - The Truth About Guns
The trick is to buy them faster than they can organize them in their database.
like the article says, buy them from close friends and family. although that would be illegal in New Yorkistan
Immediate family still doesn't have to go through an FFL.
80% Lower bought with cash is the only legal way to stay entirely off the radar in NY. Also muzzle loaders and black powder revolvers.
If it comes to the point where an army of government goons (or their contractors) come for our guns, each gun owner will have to quickly decide if they wish to invoke the ethos of Thomas Jefferson and relive 1775, or self-castrate like in Australia.
80% firearms and the hope that govt fucks this up like everything else they touch.
Makes perfect sense actually.
Old news. FBI has previously stated that they don't destroy NICS data within 24 hours, as required by law.
80% in cash
The better question is how many would it take?
If they serve say the first 500 seizures and only 5 were met with resistance I doubt they would think twice about continuing on.
What if 25, 50, 100 were met with resistance?
What's the % chance of an incident of resistance that it would take to get the jackpot alphabet agencies to decide they don't want to kick the door in and have a _______% chance of it immediately turning into a shitshow.
and just how many were bought before the NICS ??? or passed on from from estates .. or even gun raffles back in the day ..
How many have been bought at yard sales/ estate sales too!
Not sure why people are surprised about this.
BP pistols still have to go on a permit
To legally shoot them, not to buy them. You can buy one and keep it on your wall, never shoot it, doesn't need to be on the permit. 95% sure that's the case (is what an FFL told me a couple weeks ago and I was of the impression prior as well).
No NCIC in NC with CHP.
BUT, they still require a 4473.
Private sales, for now, are off the grid.
No problem. Then the policy changes to no active seizure of weapons through force, but it's now a Class A felony to own one along with a $5k award if information leads to the arrest and conviction of a gun owner. Additionally, any arrest by a person who previously owned a gun triggers an automatic warrant to search their premises for firearms.
Alternatively, a new policy instituted that says all gun-related warrants in response to the $5k award have an automatic armed response unit that flash bangs your house and shoots anything that moves, down to a house cat. Watch how quickly people turn their guns in.
If you don't have the firing components in the house. Once you have BP and caps, you need it on the permit. That's what I've read on this forum, multiple times, anyway.
What if you have two of the same gun and one is on permit and one is cleaned and has never been fired?
Only if you intend to shoot it, or have the components for loading it on the premises. So if you have no intent to shoot it but have a muzzleloading rifle, and components, that you hunt with, you have to register it. FUNY!
shhhh thats where i told dad there was 2 guns for sale .. some old bolt shotgun 12g and a British infield 303 .. 25 bucks for both with bullets for the 303 ..
we ran right down and got them .. .. score ..
BTW ... that shotgun is the one i carried on the school bus and took to shop class in a attempt to make a new stock for it .. OMG gun in school .. and then carried it back on the bus to take home .. the stock worked , wasn't the prettiest thing .. but hey . i made it .. and nothing happened at school all that time
amazing huh ..
yep .. you can buy them cash n carry .. order on line and sent to home ..
you just can't have the stuff to load it with out a PP in NY ..
when i got my BP pistol , they asked if had the BP and Balls for it ,.. nope all i have is stuff for BP rifles , not the correct powder or balls ..
let me check .. came back from the office .. no problem .. that will be 200 and change .. thanks ..
and actually my buddy used his CC because i spent the 200 i took on reloading stuff , just had to pay him back ..
When you do a NICS check, isn't the make, model, and serial number not given to the FBI? I was under the impression that all they got was that you bought a pistol, long gun, or other.
if you don't get a answer I'll asked my buds wife when i see them fri/sat .. she works at a FFL and does that phone call ..
from what have made out listening to the call .. just your info is sent .. name . ssn/driver lic .. .. don't think they read off the serial # ..
And from my understanding, the social security number is optional for you to give too. They tell you to put it down if your name is common like John Smith or Juan Garcia or Occasional Cortez.
Sorry to inform you guys but the registry does exist:
Fortunately it is hamstringed by law but don’t think for a second that can’t be fixed.
where else does firearm trace data come from? And why do they have all those 4473s?
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