New hope for the Korean peninsula
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President Trump has accomplished more for America in less than 2 years than all previous Presidents in all their terms of my lifetime.
President trump is just crushing it.
President trump is just crushing it.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
This is a start. A year ago no one would predict this. Just getting them to the table is a large feat. Every one compares this to a "tear down this wall moment" I don't .. I compare it to Nixon and China. Mao thought he should be on a footing with world leaders . .. The same is happening here .
Only Nixon could go to China
This is one of these moments ...Rodman claims he had a message to Obama that the Koreans were looking for a phone call .... That phone call never came . This also could further isolate Iran. Mainstream media never mentions this . Perhaps even quell more than one flashpoint.
One has to realize perhaps nothing will come of this . I believe the signs all point to an opening with the world . This man went to Beijing and flew into Singapore . To fully grasp how modern these countries have evolved must be mind numbing.... I predict success from the meetings .
Only Nixon could go to China
This is one of these moments ...Rodman claims he had a message to Obama that the Koreans were looking for a phone call .... That phone call never came . This also could further isolate Iran. Mainstream media never mentions this . Perhaps even quell more than one flashpoint.
One has to realize perhaps nothing will come of this . I believe the signs all point to an opening with the world . This man went to Beijing and flew into Singapore . To fully grasp how modern these countries have evolved must be mind numbing.... I predict success from the meetings .
If this "peace and denuclearization" is real and lasting.....
Then great. Not our problem anymore.
Bring the troops and equipment out of korea. Save the resources and money.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
The Rochester D&C has a USA section . Lead story was on Singapore hosting the event.
One of the most important meetings in decades and they bury the story already.
Obama got more coverage when he went to Cuba.
One of the most important meetings in decades and they bury the story already.
Obama got more coverage when he went to Cuba.
And the Democrats are APOPLETIC !
They freely admit that a Depression, War, Race Riots - no price is too high to pay for their regaining POWER over we serfs !
Bill Maher is 'hoping for' an economic collapse so he can 'get rid of Trump': 'Sorry if that hurts people'
They freely admit that a Depression, War, Race Riots - no price is too high to pay for their regaining POWER over we serfs !
Bill Maher is 'hoping for' an economic collapse so he can 'get rid of Trump': 'Sorry if that hurts people'
There is a reason newspapers are dying. The buffalo news just had massive layoffs. They are all a bunch of agenda pushing partisan hacks.
These loser pundits are openly rooting for America to fail so voters vote against trump in 2020. F them all.
The Democrats don't give a flying fuck what is good for the AMERICAN CITIZEN.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Obviously.
wizrd
6.5 Creedmoor
Just caught a small glimpse of this meeting on the news this morning, - from what little part I saw, - Kim Jong Un DID NOT look like the alpha male of this group. He had more like a 'cornered rat' expression on his face...just saying. Did anyone else notice this, or am I imagining it? -- " It's better to have an army of sheep, - led by a lion, than to have an army of lions led by a sheep." We had a sheep for a leader for 8 years - now we have a Lion.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
North Korea Summit: Democrats List Demands for Deal | National Review
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Senate Democrats have threatened to block any deal will North Korea that does not meet their list of demands.
“Any deal that explicitly or implicitly gives North Korea sanctions relief for anything other than the verifiable performance of its obligations to dismantle its nuclear and missile arsenal is a bad deal,” seven prominent Democrat senators wrote Monday in a letter to President Trump.
The senators outlined five specific requirements a deal with the dictatorship must meet in order to gain their support, and promised to use congressional power to block any deal that does not meet those requirements:
mocrats List Demands for North Korea Deal
Senate De
Senate Democrats have threatened to block any deal will North Korea that does not meet their list of demands.
“Any deal that explicitly or implicitly gives North Korea sanctions relief for anything other than the verifiable performance of its obligations to dismantle its nuclear and missile arsenal is a bad deal,” seven prominent Democrat senators wrote Monday in a letter to President Trump.
The senators outlined five specific requirements a deal with the dictatorship must meet in order to gain their support, and promised to use congressional power to block any deal that does not meet those requirements:
- The deal must include the dismantlement and removal of all nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons from North Korea.
- The U.S. must ensure a “complete and verifiable denuclearization of North Korea,” removing all items related to nuclear-weapons production to prevent the country from reversing course.
- North Korea must end its ballistic-missile program as well.
- North Korea must comply with “anywhere, anytime” inspections to ensure it is not cheating on the deal, and sanctions must be immediately restored if it does cheat.
- The deal must be permanent.
mocrats List Demands for North Korea Deal
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
The Iran deal — from which the U.S. recently withdrew at President Trump’s direction — violated every single one of the Democrats’ conditions.
It did not dismantle Iran’s nuclear infrastructure; it merely slowed, but did not stop, Iran’s nuclear enrichment; it did nothing to stop Iran’s missile program; it did not allow inspectors to visit all relevant sites at will; it included sunset clauses; and it was approved by the United Nations Security Council before being presented to Congress as a fait accompli. Indeed, Obama never submitted the Iran deal to the Senate for ratification, and Democrcats filibustered a vote on approving the deal under the weak provisions of the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, which Menendez co-sponsored with Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN).
One Obama alumnus who missed the irony in Democrats’ demands was former aide Ben Rhodes, who once boasted of creating an “echo chamber” to sell the Iran deal.
More at..
Democrats Issue List of Demands for North Korea Deal; Iran Deal Violated All of Them | Breitbart
It did not dismantle Iran’s nuclear infrastructure; it merely slowed, but did not stop, Iran’s nuclear enrichment; it did nothing to stop Iran’s missile program; it did not allow inspectors to visit all relevant sites at will; it included sunset clauses; and it was approved by the United Nations Security Council before being presented to Congress as a fait accompli. Indeed, Obama never submitted the Iran deal to the Senate for ratification, and Democrcats filibustered a vote on approving the deal under the weak provisions of the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, which Menendez co-sponsored with Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN).
One Obama alumnus who missed the irony in Democrats’ demands was former aide Ben Rhodes, who once boasted of creating an “echo chamber” to sell the Iran deal.
More at..
Democrats Issue List of Demands for North Korea Deal; Iran Deal Violated All of Them | Breitbart
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
“The Art Of The Deal”
Speaks for itself.
Speaks for itself.
Good news so far. I find it hard to believe N Korea will become the vacation capital of the world with condos and hotels on its beaches. Fat boy may give up his nukes but I don't see the totalitarian nature of his regime changing. Contact with foreigners is limited due to the regime's paranoia. China has been able to grow economically while maintaining oppressive govt control. Perhaps that is the best we can hope for here. It would be a welcome improvement to the current situation.
I do find it equal parts amusing and annoying at how the press and the democrats are now moving the goalposts. Apparently the elimination of nuclear weapons will be a failure unless accompanied by changes in their human rights violations. These people are ridiculous. If obama had gotten to this stage they would have overturned the constitution to make him president for life.
I do find it equal parts amusing and annoying at how the press and the democrats are now moving the goalposts. Apparently the elimination of nuclear weapons will be a failure unless accompanied by changes in their human rights violations. These people are ridiculous. If obama had gotten to this stage they would have overturned the constitution to make him president for life.
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
Obama would’ve been crowned king president if he would’ve gotten North Korea just to give up a hand grenade.
The Democratic postulants in this country has just gotten too out of hand.
The Democratic postulants in this country has just gotten too out of hand.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Lets hope the Dems end up with a super minority in congress.
I hope all turns out well.
I await the final outcome.
This is a great first step.
I await the final outcome.
This is a great first step.
That_FNG
.308 Win
You know I wonder if Kim is seeing the big picture. For a long time it has been known that his people are starving, however we have started hearing stories that soldiers in the army are starving. Maybe Kim is seeing that if he doesn't do something soon, his own army may turn against him. Maybe he is seeking to improve things, thus allowing him to stay in control.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
China has a vested interest in seeing this come to fruition.
China Pushes for 'Guarantor' Role in North Korea Talks
Best comment describing our Democratic party: "The left would burn this nation to the ground for the chance to rule over the ashes."
China Pushes for 'Guarantor' Role in North Korea Talks
Best comment describing our Democratic party: "The left would burn this nation to the ground for the chance to rule over the ashes."
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
If you accept the cunning nature of the Beijing Dragon, and the false geopolitical face of the Panda mask as historically presented by the control elements now represented by Chairman Xi Jinping, a striking probability looms. Not only does China influence North Korea, but China actually controls every element of the North Korean government that surrounds Chairman Kim Jong-un.
The problem for Chairman Xi is what happens when all of the political forces align to place Chairman Kim Jong-un in a position of opening the door for the U.S. and President Trump and the West (writ large) to enter North Korea under the auspices of a CVID nuclear agreement.
In essence, President Trump may now enter into a land where the officials report exclusively to Chairman Xi, and no-one knew. This presents a possibility the larger global community might soon discover the true nature of the Beijing/Pyongyang connection.
Consider that Chairman Kim was/is likely put into power not as a linear out-coming of his familial relationship, but more as a strategy of ongoing Chinese duplicity. Kim Jong-un was seen as easier to control. Consider the possibility that all of the DPRK officials who carry out the objectives of the ruling North Korean government are factually operating according to the dictates of the hidden Chinese authority.
Within this dynamic Chairman Kim received the scorn of the international community; but was -in reality- merely a figurehead, a false panda face – hiding the true authority behind all of the DPRK policy, and a designed strategy constructed by China.
More at ....Act II – The Dance of The Dragon Continues….
The problem for Chairman Xi is what happens when all of the political forces align to place Chairman Kim Jong-un in a position of opening the door for the U.S. and President Trump and the West (writ large) to enter North Korea under the auspices of a CVID nuclear agreement.
In essence, President Trump may now enter into a land where the officials report exclusively to Chairman Xi, and no-one knew. This presents a possibility the larger global community might soon discover the true nature of the Beijing/Pyongyang connection.
Consider that Chairman Kim was/is likely put into power not as a linear out-coming of his familial relationship, but more as a strategy of ongoing Chinese duplicity. Kim Jong-un was seen as easier to control. Consider the possibility that all of the DPRK officials who carry out the objectives of the ruling North Korean government are factually operating according to the dictates of the hidden Chinese authority.
Within this dynamic Chairman Kim received the scorn of the international community; but was -in reality- merely a figurehead, a false panda face – hiding the true authority behind all of the DPRK policy, and a designed strategy constructed by China.
More at ....Act II – The Dance of The Dragon Continues….
Don't go confusing people, most have no clue the inner workings(and failings) of the Chinese Government
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
One can only hope that Kim doesn’t. I’m not entirely convinced of that. Time will tell.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
