New NY background check for guns??

[BlakeLok]

When did New York State add its own version of NICS in order to buy a gun?

I know about the ammunition purchase but now there is a separate background check just for the state?

I don't remember hearing anything about this in the news. And I can't find any articles.

 

[byron]

When did New York State add its own version of NICS in order to buy a gun?

I know about the ammunition purchase but now there is a separate background check just for the state?

I don't remember hearing anything about this in the news. And I can't find any articles.

New York State implemented its own enhanced background check system, linked to the federal NICS but with state-specific requirements, under the NY SAFE Act in 2013,

 

[BlakeLok]

Huh.

 

[Old Jalopy]

NYS started running their own checks when the Improved Conceal Carry Act was passed back in 2021 or 2022.

 

[Saltwater60]

NYS started running their own checks when the Improved Conceal Carry Act was passed back in 2021 or 2022.

2022. I think October of that year it started. $9.00 per check $2.50 for ammo I think. Both were done at the same time.

 

[JRtraderny]

2022. I think October of that year it started. $9.00 per check $2.50 for ammo I think. Both were done at the same time.

bunch of commie crooks , steal our rights and then charge us for them.

 

[Old Jalopy]

I couldn't remember when the system went live. I do remember for about a year or so before the system went into effect if you bought ammo from a big box store like Walmart, or even Runnings, they would add your info to a notebook. Gun shops would add the sale to the file they had on you already.

 

[JRtraderny]

I couldn't remember when the system went live. I do remember for about a year or so before the system went into effect if you bought ammo from a big box store like Walmart, or even Runnings, they would add your info to a notebook. Gun shops would add the sale to the file they had on you already.

I have purchased absolutely zero in NY since this law was passed. Bought stuff I didn't even need prior to that date , eff KH and here commie tribe.

 

[Saltwater60]

I have purchased absolutely zero in NY since this law was passed. Bought stuff I didn't even need prior to that date , eff KH and here commie tribe.

I have not and will not buy ammo in NYS but I did buy a gun.

 

[Bigfoot]

I don't own any guns, guns are icky

 

[Brawny71]

AND great news. The NYS check requires make, model, serial of gun, lot, special id number (doesn’t exist) to be entered. None of the above were entered prior into the Ncis before….BECAUSE IT VIOLATES THE FOPA by collecting data of non-prohibited poeoe.

Strange…..

 

[Vicarious]

PA is a very short drive, I wont buy ammo in Commie New Yorkistan.

 

[Old Jalopy]

I won't buy ammo here either. I refuse to take part in the illegal registry.

I know this isn't popular to a lot of folks when I say this, but I can go buy all the pot I want and get high in NY, but I have to get permission to buy ammunition. How fucked up is that shit?


Shall not be infringed! means I don't have to ask for permission. From anyone.

 

[Brawny71]

I won't buy ammo here either. I refuse to take part in the illegal registry.

I know this isn't popular to a lot of folks when I say this, but I can go buy all the pot I want and get high in NY, but I have to get permission to buy ammunition. How fucked up is that shit?


Shall not be infringed! means I don't have to ask for permission. From anyone

Great point. And all the THC for your vape and pot you buy isn’t being tracked by name and address of the State. Big Smile, Big Smile.

 

[Old Jalopy]

New York State implemented its own enhanced background check system, linked to the federal NICS but with state-specific requirements, under the NY SAFE Act in 2013,

No, originally the ammo BG check was to be a part of the SAFE ACT, but there were no changes to the firearms check in it. It was decided then that the ammo check would be removed from the laws as written. When twat nozzle made the Concealed Improvement ACT NYS created the BG check for ammo, and it was announced NYS would start doing its own checks. That was in 2021. Neither system went live until 2022.

 

[Saltwater60]

Great point. And all the THC for your vape and pot you buy isn’t being tracked by name and address of the State. Big Smile, Big Smile.

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I’ll bet they are tracking who buys weed.

 

[Tisto]

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. I’ll bet they are tracking who buys weed.

I GUARANTEE they're tracking who buys dope ! I'll bet they run those names against the list of pistol permit holders and the lists created by NYS for firearm and ammo purchases too. Then, when a name appears on two lists, they'll pay him a visit - maybe not right away, but get a traffic ticket, be found in posession of dope and they'll have a half dozen more charges to file against you. Not to mention the obligatory photo op of all the guns, magazines and ammo they seized from you. If your gun collection isn't that impressive, they'll probably dig up a bunch of plumbing supplies and call them 'bomb making materials'. That bag of fertilizer and a can of diesel fuel will be center of the picture. Holy Hell ! He had a gallon of denatured alcohol and some acetone ! Look ! 1-1-1 Trichloroethelene !! And methanol !!

 

[Vicarious]

I GUARANTEE they're tracking who buys dope ! I'll bet they run those names against the list of pistol permit holders and the lists created by NYS for firearm and ammo purchases too. Then, when a name appears on two lists, they'll pay him a visit - maybe not right away, but get a traffic ticket, be found in posession of dope and they'll have a half dozen more charges to file against you. Not to mention the obligatory photo op of all the guns, magazines and ammo they seized from you. If your gun collection isn't that impressive, they'll probably dig up a bunch of plumbing supplies and call them 'bomb making materials'. That bag of fertilizer and a can of diesel fuel will be center of the picture. Holy Hell ! He had a gallon of denatured alcohol and some acetone ! Look ! 1-1-1 Trichloroethelene !! And methanol !!

I believe it was Dave DiPietro who warned of this several years ago that the state has every intention of marrying the PP data base to the legal weed market.

 

[Saltwater60]

I GUARANTEE they're tracking who buys dope ! I'll bet they run those names against the list of pistol permit holders and the lists created by NYS for firearm and ammo purchases too. Then, when a name appears on two lists, they'll pay him a visit - maybe not right away, but get a traffic ticket, be found in posession of dope and they'll have a half dozen more charges to file against you. Not to mention the obligatory photo op of all the guns, magazines and ammo they seized from you. If your gun collection isn't that impressive, they'll probably dig up a bunch of plumbing supplies and call them 'bomb making materials'. That bag of fertilizer and a can of diesel fuel will be center of the picture. Holy Hell ! He had a gallon of denatured alcohol and some acetone ! Look ! 1-1-1 Trichloroethelene !! And methanol !!

I don’t even buy alcohol for places that scan you DL. I don’t drink alcohol and only cook with it so I buy 3-4 bottle of red wine a year 1-2 white wine, 1 bourbon and one vodka every few years.

 

[BlakeLok]

Follow up question: with this new NY NICS system, is it still legal for us to buy long guns in neighboring states, as per Federal AND State law??

Article 265 Penal Law Firearms - Dangerous Weapons | NY Law

Firearms and Other Dangerous Weapons. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree

ypdcrime.com

 

[byron]

Follow up question: with this new NY NICS system, is it still legal for us to buy long guns in neighboring states, as per Federal AND State law??

Article 265 Penal Law Firearms - Dangerous Weapons | NY Law

Firearms and Other Dangerous Weapons. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree

ypdcrime.com

Yes, a New York State resident can legally purchase a compliant long gun (rifle or shotgun) from a Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer in another state, including a neighboring one, and take possession of it there, provided the transaction complies with the laws of both states. you can buy handguns also but they have to be shipped to an FFl in NY

 

[Celt]

If you think they dont keep track of the federal NICS checks, youre mistaken. They may not have the same specifics, but they know your buying a gun and youre going on their list.

 

[Saltwater60]

Yes, a New York State resident can legally purchase a compliant long gun (rifle or shotgun) from a Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer in another state, including a neighboring one, and take possession of it there, provided the transaction complies with the laws of both states. you can buy handguns also but they have to be shipped to an FFl in NY

This is accurate. Call ahead and ask prior to making the trip because many will refuse because Letitia James is so sue happy.

 

[Parzival]

If you think they dont keep track of the federal NICS checks, youre mistaken. They may not have the same specifics, but they know your buying a gun and youre going on their list.

The best part about my CCW in SC, no NICS. Just fill out the paper 4473, pay and walk out. The paper 4473 just gets filed in a box with all the others.

 

[Brawny71]

The best part about my CCW in SC, no NICS. Just fill out the paper 4473, pay and walk out. The paper 4473 just gets filed in a box with all the others.

All of the 4473’s get filed at the FFLs. Most of the info never leaves. UNTIL NYS took over their special background check. Other free states have come to the realization that someone holding a permit has already proven they are not a prohibited person;FOPA.

 

[Brawny71]

This is accurate. Call ahead and ask prior to making the trip because many will refuse because Letitia James is so sue happy.

Yes. It is also why MOST states will sell you the gun but send to a FFL; liability. They can’t keep up with the stupideeze any better then the rest of us reacting to midnight secret changes.

 

[Parzival]

All of the 4473’s get filed at the FFLs. Most of the info never leaves. UNTIL NYS took over their special background check. Other free states have come to the realization that someone holding a permit has already proven they are not a prohibited person;FOPA.

I don’t trust electronic 4473’s and haven’t bought a gun with one since I left NY.

Most of my gun buys have been private sales anyway. Just cash and a handshake.

 

[Celt]

The best part about my CCW in SC, no NICS. Just fill out the paper 4473, pay and walk out. The paper 4473 just gets filed in a box with all the others.

True, but when your info is ran through NICS its catalogged. The AFT has already been caught admitting to a searchable database.

 

[thughes]

True, but when your info is ran through NICS its catalogged. The AFT has already been caught admitting to a searchable database.

The FFL does NOT run the actual NICS check, they just file the completed form locally for their own records....end of process. The only way you would ever show up in the ATF's records is if they actually went on-site at the FFL and recorded all the forms. (It's the same where I live)

 

[Old Jalopy]

I'm not so sure about the pistol thing. I was in a shop in another state back in 2024 buying some ammo. There was another guy from NY in there as well. We talked for a couple minutes, said he was from LI. He had bought a pistol and was picking it up after waiting for the amendment to his permit. I'm positive he walked out with it. No mailing anything.