New OEM Barrel for Ruger PC Carbine 9mm?

[mgunner]

Does anyone know where I can get an original barrel for the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm? I took a look on the Ruger website but it looks like they don't sell barrels.

I don't want to spend the money on a special upgraded barrel. I just want an original barrel. Does anyone know who would sell them?

 

[dsdmmat]

Call Ruger. They might require you to send in the receiver to headspace a barrel assembly. When I stripped out the aluminum handguard mounting block screw. Ruger would not sell me the part and had me send the whole rifle in to replace it.

 

[mgunner]

Call Ruger. They might require you to send in the receiver to headspace a barrel assembly. When I stripped out the aluminum handguard mounting block screw. Ruger would not sell me the part and had me send the whole rifle in to replace it.

Called Ruger and they won't do it. The rifle is in PA but it's a threaded barrel so I wanted a NY compliant barrel. They won't sell the barrel to me. And they won't put a new barrel on it if I send it in. I spoke to a few reps and they all said the same thing. That makes no sense at all.

Do you know what my options are to make this rifle compliant in NY?

 

[togmaster]

Called Ruger and they won't do it. The rifle is in PA but it's a threaded barrel so I wanted a NY compliant barrel. The won't sell the barrel to me. And they won't put a new barrel on it if I send it in. I spoke a few reps and they all said the same thing. That makes no sense at all.

Do you know what my options are to make this rifle compliant in NY?

Go to a gunsmith and have a thread protector pinned and welded to the barrel

 

[mgunner]

Go to a gunsmith and have a thread protector pinned and welded to the barrel

Do you know of a gunsmith that would do this for me in NY?

 

[GOYABEAN]

PM me @mgunner

 

[FRANKIE]

Pinned and welded is the ticket. I reluctantly understand why Ruger won’t sell the barrel.
Aside from safety point of view from the headspace possibly being an issue, it will definitely change the born on model number in which we all know the New York legal version had its own designated model number. Just another example how NY sucks. Pinned and welded with a receipt from a licensed gun smith would be a cheaper and legal option.
Only issue I see here is that the finish on the protector closely matches the barrel finish.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

What a pile of shit New Yorkistan is. Back in the days when I lived there, I bought an M&P .22 pistol, that came with a threaded barrel. The dealer I bought it from pinned and welded the nut on before he let me pick it up. Apparently, he stocked them for those privileged few who could legally buy them? But then he would neuter them before peons like us could buy one.

It pissed me off every time I shot it because it also reminded me how I could not own a suppressor in NYS, I sold that when I moved to the Carolinas and bought something NOT NEUTERED. FUCK NYS!

 

[togmaster]

Do you know of a gunsmith that would do this for me in NY?

It's not complicated. Where are you Located. I have someone in Rockland County.

 

[FP1201]

Do you know of a gunsmith that would do this for me in NY?

In Jefferson County, Van Tassel's Gunsmithing
30412 NYS Rte. 37 Evans Mills, 13637
The Thread Protector can be Silver Soldered on as well: ATF considers that permanent, and so would NYS.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

In Jefferson County, Van Tassel's Gunsmithing
30412 NYS Rte. 37 Evans Mills, 13637
The Thread Protector can be Silver Soldered on as well: ATF considers that permanent, and so would NYS.

Agreed, soldered would definitely be preferable.

 

[mgunner]

Pinned and welded is the ticket. I reluctantly understand why Ruger won’t sell the barrel.
Aside from safety point of view from the headspace possibly being an issue, it will definitely change the born on model number in which we all know the New York legal version had its own designated model number. Just another example how NY sucks. Pinned and welded with a receipt from a licensed gun smith would be a cheaper and legal option.
Only issue I see here is that the finish on the protector closely matches the barrel finish.

I bought this in PA several years ago. At that time I had no idea it was going to be an issue. I accidently bought the one with the threaded barrel. I ordered it and saw it had a threaded barrel when I picked it up. I didn't think it was a problem. I had no intention of wanting or using any type of muzzle device.

Would a gunsmith just tap and weld the current thread cover in place?

 

[mgunner]

Agreed, soldered would definitely be preferable.

What's the difference between silver solder and a pin and weld?

 

[mgunner]

In Jefferson County, Van Tassel's Gunsmithing
30412 NYS Rte. 37 Evans Mills, 13637
The Thread Protector can be Silver Soldered on as well: ATF considers that permanent, and so would NYS.

Thank you. I'm down in Westchester. Do you know of someone closer?

 

[mgunner]

It's not complicated. Where are you Located. I have someone in Rockland County.

I'm down in Westchester.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

What's the difference between silver solder and a pin and weld?

Solder can be heated ‘til it is flowable, and then you could spin the nut off; replace it after cleaning the remaining solder off of the threads, and you would have a usable threaded barrel. Soldering does not melt the individual parts. It is just like when you solder a copper elbow or coupling on another piece of copper tubing,- they can be unsoldered with heat to take them apart, and with a bit of effort the solder can be removed.

Welding actually melts the metal of both the nut and the barrel threads together, turning them into one mass of metal. If you try to remove the nut by heating the welded parts until they are molten, the parts are no longer individual items,- they are one piece of metal. At that point, the nut is unusable, and your barrel is fucked up too.

 

[FRANKIE]

Solder can be heated ‘til it is flowable, and then you could spin the nut off; replace it after cleaning the remaining solder off of the threads, and you would have a usable threaded barrel. Soldering does not melt the individual parts. It is just like when you solder a copper elbow or coupling on another piece of copper tubing,- they can be unsoldered with heat to take them apart, and with a bit of effort the solder can be removed.

Welding actually melts the metal of both the nut and the barrel threads together, turning them into one mass of metal. If you try to remove the nut by heating the welded parts until they are molten, the parts are no longer individual items,- they are one piece of metal. At that point, the nut is unusable, and your barrel is fucked up

Removing a blind pinned brake is also a challenge. No hope for the brake but most of the times the barrel is salvageable. Threads must be chased afterwards. Unless of course someone didn’t use a depth gauge, then you have a semi-ported barrel

 

[Robin]

Just by a NY compliant one, it sucks but at this point it sounds like the cheaper alternative. I would want some kind of assurance from Ruger that the alloy used in their barrels on that model will withstand the heat used in welding or silver soldering without a negative impact.
Robin

 

[mgunner]

Just by a NY compliant one, it sucks but at this point it sounds like the cheaper alternative. I would want some kind of assurance from Ruger that the alloy used in their barrels on that model will withstand the heat used in welding or silver soldering without a negative impact.
Robin

My father bought this rifle for me as a gift several years ago. He passed away 2 years ago so it has sentimental value. I'm sure a gunsmith will be able to tell me if soldering or pin/welding will mess up the barrel or not. I'll make sure to ask him. Thank you for bringing that point to my attention.

 

[mgunner]

Solder can be heated ‘til it is flowable, and then you could spin the nut off; replace it after cleaning the remaining solder off of the threads, and you would have a usable threaded barrel. Soldering does not melt the individual parts. It is just like when you solder a copper elbow or coupling on another piece of copper tubing,- they can be unsoldered with heat to take them apart, and with a bit of effort the solder can be removed.

Welding actually melts the metal of both the nut and the barrel threads together, turning them into one mass of metal. If you try to remove the nut by heating the welded parts until they are molten, the parts are no longer individual items,- they are one piece of metal. At that point, the nut is unusable, and your barrel is fucked up too.

I wasn't sure is "silvering soldering" was the same as "soldering" or if it was some specialized technique when it came to rifle barrels. So thanks for clarifying.

I'm not looking to add anything onto the barrel. I'm more concerned with if it's going to make the rifle legal and not damage the rifle.

 

[mgunner]

Anyone else know of gunsmiths around Westchester that will blind pin or solder? When I say around Westchester, I'm willing to drive 2 hours or so to a competent gunsmith.

 

[mgunner]

In Jefferson County, Van Tassel's Gunsmithing
30412 NYS Rte. 37 Evans Mills, 13637
The Thread Protector can be Silver Soldered on as well: ATF considers that permanent, and so would NYS.

Do you have a link to the ATF rules on this? I did a search but am not finding anything directly from the ATF. Many mention it on forums but I would like to see the actual rule in case it was changed.

 

[FP1201]

Do you have a link to the ATF rules on this? I did a search but am not finding anything directly from the ATF. Many mention it on forums but I would like to see the actual rule in case it was changed.

1,200 degree Silver Solder permanently affixes parts where they cannot be separated without damage or high heat...go to one of the Forums that deals with Class lll items.
Back in the early AW Ban days, there was "blind pinning" where a hole was drilled, dowel/roll pin inserted and the hole zapped with a weld (I used MIG for a clean little spot) the muzzle device couldn't be removed without damaging the Device, Barrel and/or threads.

 

[regulator426]

@mgunner - I know I'm late to the conversation, but did you get your issue resolved? If not, I have an unthreaded barrel I'd be willing to swap.