Niagara Falls looking to take prime land from developer by eminent domain because land sits idle

[Saltwater60]

Wow the balls of these people. Well I don’t feel bad because it’s only 10% of the land he owns so it’s ok to just take it? Fine I’ll take 10% of the Niagara Falls mayors assets to pay for my sons college. After all it’s only 10% of his worth. These people are so entitled I can’t believe it.

As Niagara Falls seeks to seize land through eminent domain, developer proposes $1.48B data center

Faced with the threat of losing at least part of his long undeveloped land in Niagara Falls through eminent domain, New York City developer Howard Milstein and his partners are

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[BuffNiag]

No different than a slum lord and one of Cuomo’s buddies. I don’t feel bad.

 

[Saltwater60]

No different than a slum lord and one of Cuomo’s buddies. I don’t feel bad.

Why? It’s his land and if he doesn’t want to make it into a park then he has that right. The government doesn’t have the right to take our land that we own. He’s not a slumlord from the viewpoint of the article. It says nothing of not upkeeping the land or having code violations just that the city wants it a park so they are ping to take the land, spend the infrastructure money for Joe Biden and make it a “valuable” park.
The park will do nothing expect provide a place to panhandle, do drugs, shoot people, and homeless. Niagara Falls is a shithole and it needs jobs. The developers plan is better than a park. Parks bring in zero jobs and zero tax revenue. The park will not be kept up so the city is the slumlord.

They just want the land. If you look what’s around there it’s ok to have the casino, a warehouse, a hotel(that’s shitty), parking lots, and tire/mechanic shops, but we need a park where there are about zero residents and any residents are equal distances to Niagara Falls state park and it’s very close to a park along the Niagara River now. This is all smoke and mirrors to steal his land. The red dot is the interaction and to the south is the park along the river <1,000 feet away, to the west is the state park 3,000-4,000 feet away. Just go to one of those places. People wonder why nothing gets done around here.

 

[SonOfSun]

Wow the balls of these people. Well I don’t feel bad because it’s only 10% of the land he owns so it’s ok to just take it? Fine I’ll take 10% of the Niagara Falls mayors assets to pay for my sons college. After all it’s only 10% of his worth. These people are so entitled I can’t believe it.

As Niagara Falls seeks to seize land through eminent domain, developer proposes $1.48B data center

Faced with the threat of losing at least part of his long undeveloped land in Niagara Falls through eminent domain, New York City developer Howard Milstein and his partners are

buffalonews.com

That's not how eminent domain works. They don't just "take" it as theirs where the owner of the land just gets nothing. They need to pay fair value for it.

Eminent domain refers to the power of the government to take private property and convert it into public use. The Fifth Amendment provides that the government may only exercise this power if they provide just compensation to the property owners.​

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Just Compensation Requirement:​

In Kohl v. United States, 91 U.S. 367 (1875), the Supreme Court held that the government may seize property through the use of eminent domain, as long as it appropriates just compensation to the owner of the property. In Loretto v. Teleprompter Manhattan CATV Corp. 458 US 419 (1982), the Supreme Court clarified that when the government engages in a taking and implements a permanent physical occupation of the property, it must provide the property owner with just compensation, even if the area is small and the government's use does not greatly affect the owner's economic interest.​

 

[2WheelGnnr]

NFR wants to develop it and use it to create something that generates rental income for them and jobs for the public.

a flippin park....they need another one of those .... yeah sure. as developed land that will add to the tax role..they are paying taxees on it now...leave em alone goodness...

 

[SomeSoldier]

10% for the big guy. If it works for Joe.

 

[BuffNiag]

NFR wants to develop it and use it to create something that generates rental income for them and jobs for the public.
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They’ve been saying this for 25 years.

 

[Saltwater60]

That's not how eminent domain works. They don't just "take" it as theirs where the owner of the land just gets nothing. They need to pay fair value for it.

Eminent domain refers to the power of the government to take private property and convert it into public use. The Fifth Amendment provides that the government may only exercise this power if they provide just compensation to the property owners.​

​

Just Compensation Requirement:​

In Kohl v. United States, 91 U.S. 367 (1875), the Supreme Court held that the government may seize property through the use of eminent domain, as long as it appropriates just compensation to the owner of the property. In Loretto v. Teleprompter Manhattan CATV Corp. 458 US 419 (1982), the Supreme Court clarified that when the government engages in a taking and implements a permanent physical occupation of the property, it must provide the property owner with just compensation, even if the area is small and the government's use does not greatly affect the owner's economic interest.​

I know they pay a “fair value” but they still take it. He doesn’t want to sell it so they are taking it from him. He will not be fairly compensated. I’ll bet he will get 25-30% less than he could sell it for.
My house was appraised a while back for a refinance and the guy even told me you can sell it for way more than this, but I’m going to say $200,000. My realities just bugged me to sell and told me I could get $340,000 for it. I’m fine with it because I wanted to take no money out against the house and when my city reassesses me I’ll use it to my advantage, but don’t think the government won’t do the same as my bank did. I trust no one, but 10-20 people that are very close to me.

 

[Saltwater60]

They’ve been saying this for 25 years.

It’s his land, he can say it until the day he dies.

 

[spat]

That's not how eminent domain works. They don't just "take" it as theirs where the owner of the land just gets nothing. They need to pay fair value for it.

Eminent domain refers to the power of the government to take private property and convert it into public use. The Fifth Amendment provides that the government may only exercise this power if they provide just compensation to the property owners.​

​

Just Compensation Requirement:​

In Kohl v. United States, 91 U.S. 367 (1875), the Supreme Court held that the government may seize property through the use of eminent domain, as long as it appropriates just compensation to the owner of the property. In Loretto v. Teleprompter Manhattan CATV Corp. 458 US 419 (1982), the Supreme Court clarified that when the government engages in a taking and implements a permanent physical occupation of the property, it must provide the property owner with just compensation, even if the area is small and the government's use does not greatly affect the owner's economic interest.​

And who gets to decide what "fair market value" is ?


That *never* gets abused.

 

[Acer-m14]

even tho this is from Australia .. watch it .. we take your land and not the neighbors because he is rich and known ..