Number One Failure Of Preppers & Surivalists...first aid and cpr certification.
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livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Wilderness Medical First Responder is a great foundation.
Wilderness First Aid, CPR/AED & Standard First Aid
Wilderness First Aid
Canandaigua, NY 14424
585-469-8470
hstave@rochester.rr.com
Wilderness First Aid, CPR/AED & Standard First Aid
Wilderness First Aid
Canandaigua, NY 14424
585-469-8470
hstave@rochester.rr.com
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Folks I am looking to get some training. Just as we say as gun owners .. Why do I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy ... So the same with this training.. One cannot carry a Dr on your back . I just got my CAT tourniquet in the mail after a few months backlog. . Got the holders also to attach to the belt and ruck sack. In the past there have been times I have needed one and did not have one. to use on myself ... Looking back at times I am in awe of how I have survived this long
Tintalieau
.40 S&W
sign up with a local vol. ambulance, do a few months, get your CFR, EMT AEMT-P or whatever flavor you want. All it takes is time invested and you'll have the warm fuzzies from doing something good for the community while building essential skills that you will have used in the field, experience is as important or more than book work IMO.
99cummins
.308 Win
Stop the bleed, cpr, most any first aid training is better than nothing. Knowing how recognize and treat some common medical issues is good as well. Apocalypse or not. Most of us carry a firearm in case we ever need it. Should do the same with medical training and equipment.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
why isn't this mandatory learning in grade and high school ?
i learned this back in Boy Scouts ..
Cpr has changed over the years .,. but does the old way still work even its more work ? ..
i learned this back in Boy Scouts ..
Cpr has changed over the years .,. but does the old way still work even its more work ? ..
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
what did Kentucky Ballistic use when the 50 cal blew up on him .. his thumb .. good thing dad was there ..
8min mark or watch it all .,.
KISS Method .. Keep it simple stupid ..
8min mark or watch it all .,.
KISS Method .. Keep it simple stupid ..
99cummins
.308 Win
The compressions to breaths ratio has changed over the years but anything is better than nothing. Bystander cpr is now being taught as compressions only, unless it is a family member/close friend you are comfortable doing mouth to mouth on or you happen to have a pocket mask available. In teens and adults there is enough O2 still in their system to keep them alive for a bit without breaths. Infants and children the breaths are still important. For bystander cpr they have also gotten away from checking for a pulse as it seems someone who doesn’t do so regularly can struggle a bit under stress and waste time checking for a pulse instead of doing compressions. If someone is unresponsive, start cpr. And AED’s weren’t likely common when you learned so watch a video or two on those. They are all over now. Most are pretty similar and easy to use with voice prompts.
99cummins
.308 Win
I also posted this in off topic but seems appropriate for this topic. If anyone is in the area, we are holding a cpr/stop the bleed this Saturday.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
yeah .. i have kept up .. .. i was more in why not teach it in high school .. why not ?
i bet the kids today can't even make a butterfly Band-Aid ..
and just a idea .. why don't you take that free class to the local schools during school hours .. ??
( they wouldn't have to give up time on the weekend )
spat
.700 Nitro Express
First aid and most similar training now is based around stabilizing someone until you can get them to a hospital.
For SHTF medical, that may not be an option. CPR is great, but if there isn't an ambulance on the way it's likely futile.
If you are training to provide medical treatment in a long term SHTF situation, there are a lot of things that would be done differently.
None of the modern medical training short of med school will teach you how to set a broken bone for instance, but that is a likely injury in such a situation, and something that can be dealt with without a well equipped hospital for instance.
For SHTF medical, that may not be an option. CPR is great, but if there isn't an ambulance on the way it's likely futile.
If you are training to provide medical treatment in a long term SHTF situation, there are a lot of things that would be done differently.
None of the modern medical training short of med school will teach you how to set a broken bone for instance, but that is a likely injury in such a situation, and something that can be dealt with without a well equipped hospital for instance.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
unless its a compound fracture .. i think i got the term correct . the bone is sticking out of your leg and your bleeding like hell ..
.. in SHTF your screwed ..
only option would be a really tight rope on that leg and cut it off ..
the hospitals are all booked with with people with nose bleeds and other minor issues ..
911 .. need ambulance for lacerated finger .. .. heard that type of crap for many years on the scanner ..
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
With the right skill, and a good supply of antibiotics, even a compound fracture could be handled.unless its a compound fracture .. i think i got the term correct . the bone is sticking out of your leg and your bleeding like hell ..
.. in SHTF your screwed ..
only option would be a really tight rope on that leg and cut it off ..
the hospitals are all booked with with people with nose bleeds and other minor issues ..
911 .. need ambulance for lacerated finger .. .. heard that type of crap for many years on the scanner ..
You need some advanced medical training, but not necessarily a hospital.
If there's a lot of blood loss, a buddy or 2 with O- blood could be a bonus too.
99cummins
.308 Win
This is the first stop the bleed I’ve been involved in. I’d like to see more of it and going to schools is a great idea. Would have to get the school on board. I have no idea what our locals schools attitude would be towards a stop the bleed/cpr class. Or parents. We are all aware of the overprotective/shield children from everything attitude. All I know is sports are the most important thing on the planet to the district and spend whatever tax payer dollars needed to make sure they have the biggest and best for sports.yeah .. i have kept up .. .. i was more in why not teach it in high school .. why not ?
i bet the kids today can't even make a butterfly Band-Aid ..
and just a idea .. why don't you take that free class to the local schools during school hours .. ??
( they wouldn't have to give up time on the weekend )
99cummins
.308 Win
So I talked to the instructor after the class and he has offered to come into the schools in the area free of charge and teach teachers and students. Seems to get a lukewarm/this isn’t important to me reception from the administrations. He has been into some of the schools but it’s one class and done when it should be a regular thing. He is still trying and we talked to some parents that were in the class and told them to press the schools to get stop the bleed/cpr into schools.yeah .. i have kept up .. .. i was more in why not teach it in high school .. why not ?
i bet the kids today can't even make a butterfly Band-Aid ..
and just a idea .. why don't you take that free class to the local schools during school hours .. ??
( they wouldn't have to give up time on the weekend )
This was the first class we hosted and we had a great turnout. A couple of us that are EMTs helped with the hands on parts of the class and people seemed to like and enjoy the class overall. We are planning to do some more on a somewhat regular basis.