NY SAFE to add tremendus burden to County Pistol Permit Offices

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From the article:
"Courts may also issue orders directing law enforcement agencies to take possession of illegally possessed firearms in appropriate cases."

^^This right here is what they ultimately want to do! The "illegally" possessed firearms weren't "illegal" to possess, that is until they started that silly little thing known as NYSAFE which changed all of the rules.

I also notice that the NYSP spokesman didn't answer the question of "due process"!
 
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kev74 said:
I think that was a 'Waaah! We need more money!' plea.
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ya, Monroe county clerk still has a couple thousand "privacy ~~ Opt-out" notices to deal with. They simply don't have the time or man power to deal with this.

I applied for a "plastic pistol permit" in June 2016. Once you apply for the plastic card, supposedly you can not add or subtract any pistol/handguns on your permit, it took them exactly ONE YEAR to get my plastic cards.

I think what Im going to do with this "re-certification" nonsense, is move my hand guns to a state that has 'Constitutional carry" (no permit) ~~I'll go ahead and recertify in January 2018 and wait til I get my new re-certification. If everything goes smoothly and I get recertified (which should be a no brainer---But again I don't trust the NYSP) I'll go get my property back.

But I simply DO NOT TRUST the State revenuers to get this done smoothly and on time. I think they are going to get overwhelmed with applications in January and they will be forced to push the deadline back a month or two to February or even March. Especially, because they have done NO PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS about the recertification. But the state has $8 million to spend on road signs, $6 million to paint arrows on the road ways and $163 million on "StartUpNY" which is a total waste of money.

To be clear, This is not about "guns", it's about PROPERTY. I have a couple grand wrapped up in firearms. The state is NOT GOING TO TAKE MY PROPERTY without proper compensation, period.
 
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I don't think there is any obligation for the state to acknowledge receipt of your recertification. You have to do it, but they don't have to respond until the troopers kick in your door and shoot your dog.

Recertification is going to be a giant train wreck in January.
 
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After you re-certify online, you can go back to the website and check the status of your recert. If accepted, you will get a receipt that you can print out. I don't know what happens when you recert by paper.
 
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Jmac00 said:
ya, Monroe county clerk still has a couple thousand "privacy ~~ Opt-out" notices to deal with. They simply don't have the time or man power to deal with this.
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The old Clerk, Cheryl Dinolfo, made a choice to not start processing ANY OF THEM. Once they had started processing the opt-out forms, they were expected to produce a list of those who did not "opt out".
From FUAC's rep:
“By any reasonable standard, making all forms readily available online and setting a grace period that will keep pistol permit information private until each opt-out form is processed mitigates costs to local governments,” Azzopardi said in a statement.9
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By by not processing the opt out forms, the previous Clerk allowed everyone to opt out by default, and prevented reporters from publishing lists of Monroe County permit holders.
I remember an interview with her where she stated she was against the SAFE act, and it's provisions. I can't find it now, but I am pretty sure her shelving those forms was far less about money, and far more about her views on the SAFE act, and giving a middle finger to FUAC.

Bello got into office, and made a stink about it, claiming it was her just not doing her job, but he still can't give out the information without opening himself up to lawsuits, so if that was her plan, it's still working for now.
 
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The county clerks will be be busy but so will the issuing judges who will have to hear all the appeals for disqualification. Maybe no due process from NYS but these county judges will have to face the local voters.
 
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where in safe act says its up local clearks .... mail all this BS right to FUAC's desk .. LOL ...
 
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Adding more government to handle these government created dire necessities has never been a problem in NYSSR.
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ok so what if your caught in the bubble of sent in a paper form. by the due date. say december 15th but have not heard back by Jan 1?? the po po gonna come and shoot my chihuahua?? and take my kids hostage?? i mean wow. and I agree NO MENTION OF ANY DUE PROCESS.... not good.
 
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2WheelGnnr said:
ok so what if your caught in the bubble of sent in a paper form. by the due date. say december 15th but have not heard back by Jan 1?? the po po gonna come and shoot my chihuahua?? and take my kids hostage?? i mean wow. and I agree NO MENTION OF ANY DUE PROCESS.... not good.
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Their deadline is January 31st, not December 31st. Just sayin'.
 
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