NY's last stand (Lee Zeldin)

[Vicarious]

Lee Zeldin and the Empire State Exodus: Is Sane Government Still Possible in New York?

Due in no small part to the irresponsible acts of New York lawmakers, New York lawbreakers --- those contained in the entire huge state, not just the five boroughs comprising the heavily populated, strife accustomed city --- are enjoying a field da...

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[subsonic]

Zeldin is awful. The only way I can bring myself to vote for the man is the fact that his recent voting record is miles better than Hochul's recent voting and executive record. I have little trust that this would stay true once he possessed the reins of executive power, nor am I convinced that having a Republican Zeldin I voted for in government is better in the long term for the state than a Hochul Democrat that I opposed. It's possible that acceleration to a better opposition is what is needed.

Look what happened with Trump, compared to the what the party offered before (Romney, McCain, the Bushes). And Trump did not go far enough nor deliver on many of his core promises.

 

[dsdmmat]

I think NY is screwed either way. NY Republican politicians are just democrats with a small d.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Zeldin is awful. The only way I can bring myself to vote for the man is the fact that his recent voting record is miles better than Hochul's recent voting and executive record. I have little trust that this would stay true once he possessed the reins of executive power, nor am I convinced that having a Republican Zeldin I voted for in government is better in the long term for the state than a Hochul Democrat that I opposed. It's possible that acceleration to a better opposition is what is needed.

Look what happened with Trump, compared to the what the party offered before (Romney, McCain, the Bushes). And Trump did not go far enough nor deliver on many of his core promises.

Totally get what you're saying.

I'll vote for him but I know he really isn't going to fix anything. I doubt he even does anything pro gun.


I almost prefer your scenario where it goes full on socialist paradise then it will give me more motivation to go "John Galt" and leave and watch it burn in the rear view mirror.

I hear galts gulch isn't in Colorado anymore but is now in Tennessee

 

[Modean]

I think NY is screwed either way. NY Republican politicians are just democrats with a small d.

Yep, but to be fair, they have to be to get elected in this blue cesspool.

 

[Saltwater60]

Totally get what you're saying.

I'll vote for him but I know he really isn't going to fix anything. I doubt he even does anything pro gun.


I almost prefer your scenario where it goes full on socialist paradise then it will give me more motivation to go "John Galt" and leave and watch it burn in the rear view mirror.

I hear galts gulch isn't in Colorado anymore but is now in Tennessee

He can’t do anything progun since the lower chambers will still be democrat super majorities, but I get your point and agree with it.

 

[Vicarious]

Zeldin is awful. The only way I can bring myself to vote for the man is the fact that his recent voting record is miles better than Hochul's recent voting and executive record. I have little trust that this would stay true once he possessed the reins of executive power, nor am I convinced that having a Republican Zeldin I voted for in government is better in the long term for the state than a Hochul Democrat that I opposed. It's possible that acceleration to a better opposition is what is needed.

Look what happened with Trump, compared to the what the party offered before (Romney, McCain, the Bushes). And Trump did not go far enough nor deliver on many of his core promises.

I have no misconceptions about Zeldin. But a clear message needs to be sent, enough is enough with the casual and flagrant erosions of Upstate and our Rights as a whole.

 

[LibertyWins]

Zeldin did say he would undo all the recent gun laws Kathy passed... he even said he would repeal all the unSAFE ACT gun laws passed under Cumo. Lastly, he said he would revoke all COVID vax mandates across the State, and make vax and mask mandates illegal. These are the reasons I will vote for him.

That all being said, like others mention, I'm not sure he could do any of those things with the Dems still in control underneath him... unless he did some kind of Executive Order stuff, like FUKH did.

 

[pshift]

It's despicable that we have had no REAL choices on either side of the aisle for many years now. I'm not an adherent to EITHER party since they BOTH serve as smoke screens for political operatives. I would like to pass on both of them but when you go to vote, you have NO options. That is the real problem for those of us who self-identify as serfs.

 

[FP1201]

Zeldin is awful. The only way I can bring myself to vote for the man is the fact that his recent voting record is miles better than Hochul's recent voting and executive record. I have little trust that this would stay true once he possessed the reins of executive power, nor am I convinced that having a Republican Zeldin I voted for in government is better in the long term for the state than a Hochul Democrat that I opposed. It's possible that acceleration to a better opposition is what is needed.

Look what happened with Trump, compared to the what the party offered before (Romney, McCain, the Bushes). And Trump did not go far enough nor deliver on many of his core promises.

In regards to Trump: The Executive Branch wields tremendous power however it's not the summation of all power, to effect Legislative change requires the consent of both Houses of Congress, and we both know how that worked out.
There isn't anyone else in the Race that has a chance against the Democrat machine including Sharp, we need wins where we can get them, and the Governor's Office holds a full third of that power.

 

[libertysnake]

I think we should stop putting our faith in politicians solving our problems, and start solving problems ourselves.

We are held hostage to a population center filled with people dependents on the politicians they vote for to survive -- a population center that bears little resemblance to the rest of this state. Fixing this with politicians is likely not possible, although I'll still vote anyway just for the hell of it.

One of the founding reasons for this country was not being taxed without representation. We have no representation upstate. We should think about that fact deeply and what similarities it has to today. I'm not even talking about anything violent either, I'm talking about making tough calls economically to force politicians into a rock and hard place similar to how they force us into hard decisions. Why are we not enacting pain on them like they are on us? We have so much yet to even try, and yet we spend time voting for more politicians to solve a problem created by politicians.

Our problems are only problems insofar as the limits of our bravery and courage allow them to continue.

 

[JRtraderny]

The only way out of this mess is a state electoral college so NYC does not dictate to upstate and western NY.

 

[Gunright]

I don't have a lot of faith that Zeldin will be able to roll back the crazy sh*t already passed and am planning on leaving this disaster of a state.

Having said that, I would walk over hot coals in bare feet to vote for him. To think that it doesn't matter, or he isn't pro-gun enough is irrelevant.

If he manages to win it will put a shock into ALL of the D candidates across the nation.

 

[GOPerfect]

I will vote for Lee. He does nothing for me. He is a "Coattail rider". His entire time in elected office has been riding the coat tails of others.

He shows no excitment, he lacks enthusiasm. He is boring and I do not believe he will make NY better.

He may stop this State from getting worse, but not at all better. He is not strong enough to make real, positive change.

 

[drowhawk]

As a Libertarian, this is bittersweet to watch. Lee Zeldin is the embodiment of, "You made your bed, now sleep in it." for Republicans.

 

[GOPerfect]

Not sure if I understand this.

 

[subsonic]

He can’t do anything progun since the lower chambers will still be democrat super majorities, but I get your point and agree with it.

If he was serious he could immediately direct all state agencies to stop enforcing unconstitutional laws.

 

[subsonic]

The only way out of this mess is a state electoral college so NYC does not dictate to upstate and western NY.

There used to be county-level representation in state upper houses but this got struck down by federal courts on equal protection/14th amendment grounds.

 

[GOPerfect]

If he was serious he could immediately direct all state agencies to stop enforcing unconstitutional laws.

Not how the laws work. This is something that we really do not want. Wrong path.

 

[Saltwater60]

If he was serious he could immediately direct all state agencies to stop enforcing unconstitutional laws.

Then when hochul or hochul 2.0 gets elected they can go the exact opposite way. Lawlessness isn’t the answer.

 

[Acer-m14]

i think Zeldin could only undo all the emergency orders that have been put in place .. and that's all .. if GOV ..

for the rest of his time in the GOV seat .. he can just sit on his ass and look out the window , sign nothing , veto nothing .. let the paperwork pile up on the desk ..