BerettaGuy
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Stupid arguments. Criminals will bring guns on a subway or stadium so what is the point
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NYSRPA v. Bruen, NY 2A Case Supreme Court case and decision
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DrBleachCocktail
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This is fucking stupid.
Phazer
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They're arguing WHERE you can have a pistol or where a pistol could be regulated. That is NOT the question. The issue is that the possession of a concealed firearm is DENIED by the State of New York.
The Liberal justices are going on tangents about what people would do with guns IF they drink too much. WTF?
The Liberal justices insist that guns make locations unsafe. What is the proof of that?
We're going to get screwed good and hard on this one.
The Liberal justices are going on tangents about what people would do with guns IF they drink too much. WTF?
The Liberal justices insist that guns make locations unsafe. What is the proof of that?
We're going to get screwed good and hard on this one.
Phazer
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Can't wait to hear the New York State attorney's case: "Gunz iz bad! (mic drop)"
Phazer
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Sotomayor: "Tell me...where does your client have a self defense risk?"
WTF? EVERYWHERE! Who knows?
May as well have said, "Your client owns three fire extinguishers. He has never had a fire in his home. There has never been a house fire on his street. Why does your client need three fire extinguishers? What is his house fire risk?"
WTF? EVERYWHERE! Who knows?
May as well have said, "Your client owns three fire extinguishers. He has never had a fire in his home. There has never been a house fire on his street. Why does your client need three fire extinguishers? What is his house fire risk?"
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
have you seen the crime stats for NYC? dumbass
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
THe history began in 1789. Mike drop;
Phazer
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Kegan is arguing that if open carry is allowed for transparency, then why would someone need concealed carry? "What is the history?," she asks.
Ummm....New York bans open carry and denies concealed carry to almost everyone. Therefore, THE PEOPLE (as specified in the 2A) are denied the ability to exercise their 2A rights for self protection.
Ummm....New York bans open carry and denies concealed carry to almost everyone. Therefore, THE PEOPLE (as specified in the 2A) are denied the ability to exercise their 2A rights for self protection.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
PLEASE HELP ME! ANSWER THIS QUESTION!
You have a German Luger that your Grandfather brought home from WWII in your home.
You never got a Pistol Permit.
Can you be arrested for possession of an illegal firearm?
You have a German Luger that your Grandfather brought home from WWII in your home.
You never got a Pistol Permit.
Can you be arrested for possession of an illegal firearm?
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
This idiot just said NY has a Shall Issue for hunting.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
yep, if it ain't on your permit.
Phazer
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Kavanaugh is asking good questions and setting things straight. He indicates that they're not being asked to focus on "sensitive places" or on historical "foreign laws."
Phazer
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Yes.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
Finally someone with a brain.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Is that an Infringement?
Phazer
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Bottom line: "Your honors, we are not asking you to create a law or tell a state how to construct their own statutes. We simply ask that you direct lower jurisdictions to support equal rights under the United States' constitution and to give guidance how those jurisdictions should avoid firearms permitting schemes that are vague, arbitrary, and capricious."
Phazer
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Of course. But....this is New York. What would you expect?
If you want to continue to possess whatever firearms your ancestors left to you, you should leave New York and move to the United States.
Phazer
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NYS representative admitting that licensing scheme is arbitrary by her inability to state exact rules regarding population densities.
Thomas is sounding GREAT! He points out that one of the clients lives in a rural area. Yet, he was denied a permit.
Thomas is sounding GREAT! He points out that one of the clients lives in a rural area. Yet, he was denied a permit.
Phazer
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"Your honors...in rural areas, most animals are not very dangerous. But, in highly populated areas, people are the most dangerous animals and necessitate defensive tools."
Phazer
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WOW!!!!! Justice just said, "So...all of these people with illegal guns can be on the subways, but law-abiding citizens cannot have guns."
FINALLY!!!!
Kavanaugh, "Why isn't it enough to say 'I live in a violent area' and have that be a reason?"
Justice Kavanaugh, sir, how about just listing "For all legal purposes." Or, "because I'm a law-abiding citizen with natural rights enshrined in the second amendment."
FINALLY!!!!
Kavanaugh, "Why isn't it enough to say 'I live in a violent area' and have that be a reason?"
Justice Kavanaugh, sir, how about just listing "For all legal purposes." Or, "because I'm a law-abiding citizen with natural rights enshrined in the second amendment."
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Even this woman says a Premisis License is shall issue.\
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
BULLSHIT! Here in LI you can’t get a full carry license. She’s fucking lying!!!
Phazer
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The justices grilled NYSRPA attorney. But, they're also making NY State attorney flounder and sound uninformed.
Sotomayor: "Of course there should be different gun regimes between New York and, say, Wyoming." Ummm...NO!
Sotomayor: "Of course there should be different gun regimes between New York and, say, Wyoming." Ummm...NO!
Phazer
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Do people have different rights regarding speech, religion, press, and assembly depending on which jurisdiction they reside? Well...then why should we have variability in the application of the 2A?
Different Drummer
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Is anyone receiving the audio of oral argument without frequent breaks in the audio?
I am listening on the Supreme Court site and it is severally broken. If the issue is on my end I will just turn it off and listen to a recording later.
Just curious if anyone else is having this issue as well.
I am listening on the Supreme Court site and it is severally broken. If the issue is on my end I will just turn it off and listen to a recording later.
Just curious if anyone else is having this issue as well.
DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
Go to guns and gadgets on YT it’s pretty clear there.
Different Drummer
.44 mag
Thanks
Decision expected by June 2022. I was disappointed by some of the questions argued. I do think however that Mr. Clement finished with a very strong rebuttal overall. NY's AG was somewhat weak I thought. The Federal guy was somewhat tougher. I also found the questions coming from Justice Roberts to sort of favor our case, but given his history, I wouldn't trust that traitor to do the right thing no matter what.
maverick52
.223 Rem
I listened to the entire hearing. Here is my take. The arguments made by Clemente were powerful. He was on fire and the right guy for this case. Underwood and her colleague dropped the ball. They sounded like arrogant idiots. I have to believe this is going to be a win for us. It sounds to me like conserve judges will use strict scrutiny and rule in favor of the 2A. Hopefully by next year the "regime" will be overturned.