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[GOYABEAN]

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Oregon: 20-Year-Old Sues Dick’s Sporting Goods for Refusing to Sell Rifle

AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh

by AWR HAWKINS5 Mar 201831,052

A 20-year-old is suing Dick’s Sporting Goods after being refused a Ruger .22 rifle purchase based on his age.
The plaintiff, Tyler Watson, claims he faced “Unlawful Age Discrimination.”

Watson attempted to buy the rifle “on or about February 24” at a Medford, Oregon, Field and Stream store. (Field and Stream is subsidiary of Dick’s.) Watson’s suit, filed in the Circuit Court of Oregon for the County of Jackson, says a store employee refused the purchase and indicated, “He would not sell [Watson] any firearm, including rifles and shotguns, or ammunition for a firearm, because [Watson] is under 21 years old.”

The employee referenced Dick’s recent policy shift, disallowing firearm sales to anyone under 21, and cited the policy as the reason for denying the sale.

Watson’s suit alleges that Dick’s policy violates Oregon law against age-based discrimination for people 18 years and older in places of public accommodations. State law includes prohibitions against discrimination in stores that are open to the general public.

Watson also filed a separate suit claiming a Walmart store in Josephine County, Oregon, discriminated against him by denying him a rifle sale “on or about March 3, 2018.” As with Dick’s, the Walmart employee at the gun counter allegedly told Watson that rifles and shotguns could not be sold to individuals under the age of 21. The employee indicated that ammunition for firearms could not be sold to anyone under 21 either.

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In both suits Watson alleges that the defendants, Dick’s and Walmart, not only discriminated but “advertised … unlawful discriminatory policies by issuing a press release, and other materials, stating that [the defendants] will no longer sell any firearms or ammunition to any person under the age of 21.”

On February 28, 2018, Breitbart News reported Dick’s Sporting Goods’ announcement that they would no longer sell firearms to anyone under the age of 21. That same day, Walmart announced that it would no longer sell guns to anyone under the age of 21.

AWR Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News, the host of the Breitbart podcast Bullets with AWR Hawkins, and the writer/curator of Down Range with AWR Hawkins, a weekly newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment, also for Breitbart News. He is the political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com. Sign up to get Down Range at breitbart.com/downrange.



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[GOPerfect]

Interesting.

 

[dsdmmat]

Knew this was going to happen. I hope he wins enough from both stores that he never has to work again.

 

[Tinman]

GOOD FOR HIM. I HOPE HE WINS BIG.

 

[Celt]

I love it, discrimination! Let a precedent be set to sue the federal government next.

 

[Criticalt]

I heard something about this on the radio this morning.
Apparently the attorney is saying that the stores have the choice to sell guns or not sell guns.
However, if they decide to sell guns, they must follow the current laws which allow 18 year olds to buy guns.
So, even though they are private businesses, they have no choice to sell to 18 year olds.
Theyre only option is to not sell guns at all.
Im not a lawyer, this is what I heard.
If this is true, the kid has an easy win.

 

[GOPerfect]

One thing that will be thrown in here is that all FFL's have the right to refuse sales to anyone. Bit of a stretch, but that may be one way Dick's fights this.

I hope this goes far and wide. Hell, I wish I was 18, I might jump on the bandwagon with this lawsuit.

@Dayten is the only younger (I think), on this forum. Maybe we can live a bit through him in a couple of months when he turns 18.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Hasn't there been cases in court because privately owned business refused to bake a cake for gay couples it's Apple's and oranges when will it stop soon they won't want to sell because your too old

 

[Deplorable Me]

Knew this was going to happen. I hope he wins enough from both stores that he never has to work again.

Naw, if he's a typical gun owner he'll blow it on ammo.

 

[Criticalt]

Hasn't there been cases in court because privately owned business refused to bake a cake for gay couples it's Apple's and oranges when will it stop soon they won't want to sell because your too old

Like I heard today, they have the choice to sell guns, but if they do, they must follow the laws.
Like the cake thing.
You have the choice to sell cakes or not, but if you do sell them, you must follow the laws. Thats why the gays are trying to make this a law.
Thats the "pro gay cake" sides argument....same idea here with guns.
Again, I have no idea if this is how it works.
Im just saying what I heard is the gun buyers stance.

However, as @GOPerfect says, ffls can deny for any reason. Thats what courts are for I guess, we will see.

 

[kev74]

I hope every ambulance chaser in the country follows this kids lead.

 

[DoD1776]

Interesting.

Indubitably

 

[DoD1776]

One thing that will be thrown in here is that all FFL's have the right to refuse sales to anyone. Bit of a stretch, but that may be one way Dick's fights this.

I hope this goes far and wide. Hell, I wish I was 18, I might jump on the bandwagon with this lawsuit.

@Dayten is the only younger (I think), on this forum. Maybe we can live a bit through him in a couple of months when he turns 18.

You guys are to old. You won’t have a Chance to
Make it till I’m 18

 

[GOYABEAN]

You guys are to old. You won’t have a Chance to
Make it till I’m 18

and a BIG for you @Dayten

 

[Phazer]

I heard something about this on the radio this morning.
Apparently the attorney is saying that the stores have the choice to sell guns or not sell guns.
However, if they decide to sell guns, they must follow the current laws which allow 18 year olds to buy guns.
So, even though they are private businesses, they have no choice to sell to 18 year olds.
Theyre only option is to not sell guns at all.
Im not a lawyer, this is what I heard.
If this is true, the kid has an easy win.

Could be.

Since they are "open to the public," the could be required to follow state laws.

Either they could close their doors to the general public or stop selling firearms. Just a hunch, but if this suit is successful, I'm going to go with the latter.

But...if the company is really private, they should do their business as they see fit.

 

[Darth]

Their business, their rules.

Yes, the bakery decision was wrong.

Anti discrimination laws are cancer.

 

[Phazer]

Their business, their rules.

Yes, the bakery decision was wrong.

Anti discrimination laws are cancer.

As long as the company has never received any tax breaks from the jurisdictions in which they do business, I agree.

If the business is really a private business, then they should be allowed to conduct their business as they see fit.

BUT....the Left insists that all businesses must accede to "societal norms." Hmmm...they want to discriminate against bakers who refuse to serve a cake while lauding a sporting goods store that refuses to sell legal sporting goods.

 

[dsdmmat]

Their business, their rules.

Yes, the bakery decision was wrong.

Anti discrimination laws are cancer.

Very true but, in this case using the anti discrimination laws to stick it to the libs is a great payback for all the crap they have been pulling.

 

[GOPerfect]

Sometimes the best way to fight is to use the rules of the opposition.

Yeah, the gay cake thing, that was wrong. But maybe it is high tide gun owners and patriots start fighting back. Actually fighting and not just lip service.

 

[Phazer]

Sometimes the best way to fight is to use the rules of the opposition.

Exactly what Saul Alinsky advocated:

Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals

4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.“ If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.​

 

[Grimscale]

One thing that will be thrown in here is that all FFL's have the right to refuse sales to anyone. Bit of a stretch, but that may be one way Dick's fights this.

If they said "we don't want to sell to YOU" it might have stood. But they've been all over the news saying "We won't sell to anyone under 21", so they've sunk their own boat. They've publicly declared and admitted to their age discrimination.
If I were on that Jury, they'd be paying through the ass to this kid, as an example.

 

[Karpteach]

This kid is going to win. He will also be fighting these major corporations for at least 10-15 years before he sees a dime.

 

[Criticalt]

Their business, their rules.

Yes, the bakery decision was wrong.

Anti discrimination laws are cancer.

Of course this is the correct answer, but unfortunately we dont live in a correct world.
This case will either be tossed out, or set a president.
However, like everything else, it will take forever either way.

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Businesses operate with a business license, which means the business has to abide by state and local law. Dick's, all full of themselves, so righteous saving the world. Specifically discriminated against this individual because of his AGE. I hope this kid wins BIG.

 

[Acer-m14]

I think FFL's have to have a case .. gut feeling something isn't right .. this dude was pacing around the place acting all weird .. his talking / questions is BS .... ect .. someone just going in and being all chill .. and comes to the counter .. i want to buy this .. .. ok .. oh your not 21 .. not right .

how would this age thing work on fixing your car or truck when it breaks down .. sorry your not 21 we cant fix ...

what my good friend here told me Walmart has been 21 or older to sell gun even before all this BS .. ??

 

[Robin]

Seems like any business should be able to deny any sale for any reason, their business, and they should be able to flourish or go under based on the decisions they make. My son worked part time in a gun shop while in college and was given carte blanch, deny any sale you are not comfortable with, and he did.
Robin

 

[spat]

This kid is going to win. He will also be fighting these major corporations for at least 10-15 years before he sees a dime.

Nope, hell be fighting them for less than 3 years, then the case will be dismissed because they will now sell him one....