PA Murder/Suicide (Graphic Dsiturbing Video)

[Modean]

Yup calling someone a mean name gives that person justification to shoot them

I did not say it was justified. It was not. But if the deceased had shut their traps when the shooter walked away they would probably all still be alive.

 

[wirehairfan]

Ah yes calling someone names = getting shot to death

It wasn't a one time deal, not about name calling. There were prior disputes, threats by the dead couple then and previously. The takeaway is don't bully people, they may snap and kill you.

 

[Edwardteach72]

It wasn't a one time deal, not about name calling. There were prior disputes, threats by the dead couple then and previously. The takeaway is don't bully people, they may snap and kill you.

Or handle things like an adult

 

[FRANKIE]

VIDEO: 3 neighbors dead in murder-suicide after fight over snow shoveling

PENNSYLVANIA — A man shot and killed two of his neighbors following a fight that stemmed over snow shoveling in Plains Township, video shows.

usacrime.com

Don’t know if you folks saw this last February
But shit got out of hand.

 

[Defilade]

Standing there getting shot at doesn't seem to work to well. I would try a different approach.

 

[REF]

VIDEO: 3 neighbors dead in murder-suicide after fight over snow shoveling

PENNSYLVANIA — A man shot and killed two of his neighbors following a fight that stemmed over snow shoveling in Plains Township, video shows.

usacrime.com

Don’t know if you folks saw this last February
But shit got out of hand.

yes, there was a plenty lengthy thread about this with the video. An extremely graphic one at that.

 

[REF]

PA Murder/Suicide (Graphic Dsiturbing Video)

Crazy shit here, I guess it was a long standing neighbor quarrel, this time over snow. Goes to show you how ineffective a pistol can be at stopping a threat. I want to know what they were thinking when he opened up with the pistol, everyone is just standing around? Hard to tell but is the...

nygunforum.com

 

[GOYABEAN]

happens everywhere

Why I carry all the time. Man shoots neighbors over snow.

I dont know if this had been posted . I tend to carry even when I. I'm the house or my yard. Link-https://youtu.be/Id9pd8zfQcs-link

nygunforum.com

 

[libertysnake]

There is an old thread on this a while back.

This is why I don't confront people. I'm armed. I'm in good shape. I don't have anything to prove, and everything to lose. I know where my lines in the sand are, and short of that I'll just avoid confrontation.

It's not that I'm justifying what happened here, but what I'm saying is be careful what cross you want to take up arguments wise. It's just not worth it half the time.

 

[FRANKIE]

Ever since I saw this for the first time, and this particular video, you still have to chase cause they beep out the cursing but show the murder and such.
Love to here peoples perspective’s. This? Over stupid shit?
We’re all on the same page.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Something tells me, a nagging wife who always has to have the last word is involved.
Are you going to let him talk to me that way? Blah Blah Blah
Did you hear what he said? Blah Blah Blah
He called me a nagging bitch! Blah Blah Blah
Blah blah Blah.

 

[FRANKIE]

Feel sorry for the teenager who came upon this. Then like a horror movie, the guy comes out again with the long gun for an other round.

 

[Blimey]

There is an old thread on this a while back.

This is why I don't confront people. I'm armed. I'm in good shape. I don't have anything to prove, and everything to lose. I know where my lines in the sand are, and short of that I'll just avoid confrontation.

It's not that I'm justifying what happened here, but what I'm saying is be careful what cross you want to take up arguments wise. It's just not worth it half the time.

Some love confrontation and thrive on having a target for their nastiness. The dude’s reaction was obviously insane but I bet they pushed his buttons a lot of times simply for the sport of it.

Nobody got shot over a fight about snow. That just happened to be the final straw.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

The son of the man who built my house lives on my street. He lived in my house as his father built the other homes on my street. When a big snow happens he fires up the old snow plow and he and the bride mosey up and down the street giving everybody a few passes, especially the street side of the driveway where the heavy stuff builds up. He won't take any money, but he will take a beer. I always make sure I have a decent 6-pack for them. She told me she used to go out with him to plow for cash when they were young. "It's like a date"

They've had competition the past few years because my next door neighbor, who has every guy toy under the sun, has a new snow plow on his 1 ton Dodge. He just wants to plow plow plow. He doesn't want any money either. He just wants to plow.

 

[FRANKIE]

The thing is the guy that shot the two scumbags was being shit talked to, harassed and threatened physically at his own home. It's not like he leaves after his 8 or so hour shift.
I mentioned about my friends situation earlier in this thread. Like what he went through, nobody should ever dread going home after work because of asshole loser neighbors year after year.

I'll come right out and say it. I am somewhat saddened for the guy that did the shooting.
I wish that he was never put in that position. He is dead now. From what I have been able to find out about him. It seems that he was a squared away guy. Good career as an engineer. Never any police contact. Lived alone. Stuck to himself. Took good care of his property. A Navy and Army veteran, etc... And now he is dead.

IMO because of 2 scumbag losers that pressed him over and over to the point that caused the guy to snap. I mean to do anchor shots like that, there was some serious hatred going on there.

Like I said before. My friend dealt with non stop harassment, physical threats, from his asshole loser neighbors. And just totally screwing with his quality of life at his own home. I had to talk him down on 2 different occasions before he ruined his own life over it. He is a peaceable guy, not aggressive, and unlike myself is the type to avoid confrontation. But after years of verbal abuse and physical threats from his asshole loser neighbors he almost went over the edge.

It's not about a one time deal. And it is not about snow. It's the accumulation of this sort of shit from shitty fucking people over a period of time that can cause someone to snap.

Is the guy that shot the two losers responsible for his actions? Well of course.
Do I wish that he was able to handle the situation differently? Yes.
Am I in a position to judge his actions? No... I wasn't living his life and I'm not the one that was
"repeatedly" harassed and threatened with bodily harm.

I have never been harassed for very long because I put an end to it quickly.
If someone tries to make me their doormat I will make them my doormat every fucking time.
It must suck to be harassed and threatened over a long period of time.
Especially at your own home. So I will make no judgement on the guy.
It's not my place to do so.

Well said

 

[Bigfoot]

Well said

Thank you.

 

[FRANKIE]

Thank you.

Your welcome
And furthermore, I respect someone who stays true to there avatar…….

“I have never been harassed for very long because I put an end to it quickly”.

hence: “Bigfoot” !!!!!

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

The son of the man who built my house lives on my street. He lived in my house as his father built the other homes on my street. When a big snow happens he fires up the old snow plow and he and the bride mosey up and down the street giving everybody a few passes, especially the street side of the driveway where the heavy stuff builds up. He won't take any money, but he will take a beer. I always make sure I have a decent 6-pack for them. She told me she used to go out with him to plow for cash when they were young. "It's like a date"

They've had competition the past few years because my next door neighbor, who has every guy toy under the sun, has a new snow plow on his 1 ton Dodge. He just wants to plow plow plow. He doesn't want any money either. He just wants to plow.

I used to plow commercial lots. I honestly enjoyed the plowing itself. The idiots all around me that I had to deal with made it a chore.

 

[tgenec86]

Damn... First time seeing this thread. Yeah - the woman was armed from the looks of it, but she did not even come close to taking the threat seriously and never got into a firing stance. Hell, she was waving her pistol around like a Hogwarts magic wand while the neighbor was firing. She doesn't get a second chance at the rule - If you draw your firearm, you'd better be ready to use it to kill. Before my wife decided to carry I asked her if she could pull the trigger. She looked at me calmly and said "anyone coming for you or the kids has to get through me first" - this woman obviously didn't think she'd ever actually need to fire. Sad for her and her husband.

Lots of long standing anger and hatred built up here. The mocking behavior, insults, baiting - that guy snapped and snapped hard. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Isolate people, preach division and hatred, set a National agenda for intolerance? This is what you get. I'm only surprised it doesn't happen more often.

 

[holdover]

I have seen that in bars. A woman starts shit, then her guy automatically gets pulled into it.
The guy cannot appear weak in front of his woman... Then it's game on.

Oh women can be wicked, I went to bar to watch the hockey game one night by myself ,about ten years ago this pretty little blonde thing starts talking to me. Some asshole comes in between us and starts talking to her, and she blows him off. He does it again later on. she blows him off . It was rude and obnoxious but I figured , hey, shes not my girl ,shes up for grabs , the guy is taking his shot , He has every right to talk to her as I do. Im pissed , but not worth fighting over. So I go to the bathroom leave my keys money beer smokes lighter and jacket on the chair. I come back and hes in my seat, I ask him to move he said no its his seat now. Wrong answer. I commenced to beat the shit out of him and his friend and they left the bar. the bartender said my money is no good and wouldn't take my money because these guys were assholes and were always starting fights in the bar. I win the fight, I win the girl, Im the hero.

So I go home with the little blonde and screw her brains out right? No, not at all. She leaves the bar with the asshole, Im sitting there stunned at what just happened. I asked the bartender what just happened? She said that was her boyfriend ( which nobody mentioned) and shes was probably just trying to make him jealous. WTF!! I could have got hurt, I could have got arrested. That bitch did all that on purpose just to make her guy jealous.

I swore to God that night I would never fight over a women as long as I lived . Fucking treacherous creatures.

After watching the video , and knowing what I know now, you have to wonder how many men met their end because of woman

 

[Phazer]

Pretty disturbing video fired multiple rounds into two victims (also agitators) at about 5 yards male goes off camera after realizing he had been shot female down in street. Shooter puts two rounds into female's head point blank and goes off camera and presumably does same to male victim. Goes back in house returns with rifle puts two more rounds at point blank range into females head goes off camera presumably does same to male. Can't unwatch once seen.

Thanks for the summary.

Not going to watch the video.

 

[Phazer]

Ot made me sick to see people so defenseless killed like their lives are worth nothing.
..over a freaking snow disposal argument!
A good reminder why to carry and why to avoid any sort of confrontation with so many mentally sick people out there.
You called me a low life, scumbag , pussy, whatever?... Ok no problem... Peace be with you.

Exactly.

If I'm armed, I don't think that there is a verbal (purely verbal) insult that you could direct at me that would cause me to deploy a firearm.

I'm way beyond the point in my life where I care what strangers think or say about me.

 

[meketrefe]

Exactly.

If I'm armed, I don't think that there is a verbal (purely verbal) insult that you could direct at me that would cause me to deploy a firearm.

I'm way beyond the point in my life where I care what strangers think or say about me.

Even Saying sorry about something even when one is not in the wrong goes long ways in avoiding the senseless head ramming sometimes we humans do.
One would think we should have the courage and wisdom to manage primal instincts.