paperwork for powder?

[shootemup]

Wandering around in Gander Outdoors in Kingston , I see they finally have some powder. I want 1lb of H335. Bring empty container to sales guy, he goes in back to get it.

Comes back, asks to see my d/l . (? ) okay, he makes a photocopy (??) and then gets out a form asking for d/l# name/address and at the bottom of form it says to keep this w/ 4473 forms (!!) Not feeling like going thru any more b/s for powder. I realized that I did not have my c.c and the cash was in my gas tank. Told the guy, no problem .

Is this common now? Or just a crap store policy?

Save your gas, G/O is not worth the gas $$.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Store policy. I buy my powder through the local gun stores. Maybe 15 years back the local gun stores logged you into a powder book but haven't done that in at least 10. I've never seen it done at gun shows.

 

[Curmudgeon]

I was in the local one by me yesterday. Nothing fancy but certainly wont fill out a form for powder. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[shootemup]

Store policy. I buy my powder through the local gun stores. Maybe 15 years back the local gun stores logged you into a powder book but haven't done that in at least 10. I've never seen it done at gun shows.

I've got 2 lgs I buy from but haven't ever had to do paper for powder. G/O was about $5.00 cheaper and being I was there.......

I don't normally seek out G/O , but was Xmas shopping for the wife , she found some clothes there.

 

[BDSKJCHRIS]

most likely a store policy or county/town "rule", i bought some powder a few years back at runnings in gloversville, had to fill out a book for their powder inventory, i can't recall whether or not i needed to give a license number. As for the "keep with 4473 forms", it's retail, they are most likely just trying to avoid losing the book by keeping it in a safe place with other important stuff.

i've bought powder online and at gun shops before, no papers or bs, just pay for your shit and gtfo.

 

[ricklovin93]

Last time I purchased powder, I went to a LGS I have never been to. They put my information in a book. Seems like a store policy.
The LGS I frequently use never takes any information besides checking DOB.

 

[Blimey]

You guys gotta start making your own so that this isn't recorded. I have vats of piss in my house that I'm using to make it.

 

[shootemup]

most likely a store policy or county/town "rule", i bought some powder a few years back at runnings in gloversville, had to fill out a book for their powder inventory, i can't recall whether or not i needed to give a license number. As for the "keep with 4473 forms", it's retail, they are most likely just trying to avoid losing the book by keeping it in a safe place with other important stuff.

i've bought powder online and at gun shops before, no papers or bs, just pay for your shit and gtfo.

I like Runnings, they have a lot of anything ( hardware/clothes.etc.). I bought powder over at Frank's and I don't remember any paperwork.

 

[MoMan]

I just bought some Unique at a LGS that I have not been to before. It was a simple process. I asked for it, the guy behind the counter handed it to me, I walked around the shop some more, while my Wife was looking at clothes, and boots. I then walked up to the checkout area (this is a big shop with multiple "rooms"!!), and paid. No ID, no paperwork, no book to fill out. Nothing, easy, peasy!!

 

[shootemup]

I just bought some Unique at a LGS that I have not been to before. It was a simple process. I asked for it, the guy behind the counter handed it to me, I walked around the shop some more, while my Wife was looking at clothes, and boots. I then walked up to the checkout area (this is a big shop with multiple "rooms"!!), and paid. No ID, no paperwork, no book to fill out. Nothing, easy, peasy!!

And that's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, l like it.

 

[MoMan]

And that's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, l like it.

... UH-HUH..... UH-HUH!!!

 

[Target]

The two places I've bought powder require that you fill out the log book.
Name address. phone # , I.D. # ( Runnings says DL #) qty , type.

Two different counties, one was a LGS . He wouldn't have you do it if it wasn't mandated.

 

[Russ Woody]

Some places ask for name and address. Some just want the $$$ and out the door you go.

 

[redtail]

Free hazmat. Not sure of the brand though ??


Smokeless Powder for Sale | Midsouth Shooters!

 

[repete]

Only time I've ever been asked for ID was for black powder, other stuff never!

 

[Acer-m14]

LGS 10 miles from here .. name and address in log book .. LGS 30 miles away , different county .. not a thing just cash and carry ..

 

[Russ Woody]

My LGS had some fella come in from NYS and told him he had to have a smokeless powder magazine to store some black powder pellets. The pellets weren't much more than a couple of handfulls. I am a Cabinetmaker so he had me make him an orange painted box 2' x 2' x 3' long box with 2 padlocks. On the top I had to have" DANGER SMOKELESS POWDER". The pellets take up a tiny corner at the bottom of the box. He doesn't even sell our reloading powder at all.

Stupid Shit

 

[Darth]

Wait a minute...You can just being in empty containers and get a fill up of powder a-la-carte?

Am I this the one with their mind blown right now?

 

[Acer-m14]

Wait a minute...You can just being in empty containers and get a fill up of powder a-la-carte?

Am I this the one with their mind blown right now?

I think that store has empty jugs on the shelf to bring to the counter on what you want ..
like grabbing a high dollar ps4 box off the shelf and its empty .. to carry to the counter to buy ..

if so weird gun store ..

 

[Darth]

I think that store has empty jugs on the shelf to bring to the counter on what you want ..
like grabbing a high dollar ps4 box off the shelf and its empty .. to carry to the counter to buy ..

if so weird gun store ..

Oh.

That makes a more sense.

 

[shootemup]

Wait a minute...You can just being in empty containers and get a fill up of powder a-la-carte?

Am I this the one with their mind blown right now?

They have empty containers to give to the ''help'' so they have the exact container they need to get from the back.

 

[Cattafly]

I believe, in NY, powder is regulated by the labor dept. and checks LGS log books for quantities on hand and that they were signed out to an individual. Most LGS can only store 50lbs. in the store unless given permission to store more. You can only have 50lbs. in each powder magazine if located in the store. A LGS has to abide by state inspections and ATF rules.

 

[Mk44]

Sounds like a store policy.
I would rather buy some place else, even if it's a few buck more.

 

[shootemup]

Sounds like a store policy.
I would rather buy some place else, even if it's a few buck more.

YUP! Gonna do that.

 

[shootemup]

Does anyone here go to either the Albany or Middletown gun shows? I wonder how bad the powder prices are at those. Anyone buy from either? I enjoy going ( remember the pre-unsafeact days? SIGH) and was thinking of using that as a reason to go.

Albany is Jan. 26-27 and Middletown is Feb 23-24............who knows what the little prick will decree by then, maybe I shouldn't wait.

 

[XP100]

When I had my shop in NY(up until 2 yrs. ago) I had to get info from customer Name, ID, Address. I wrote it on the receipt which I had in triplicate,, one I put in powder magazine, one to customer and one to make it easier for my book keeper. A shop close to me was warned several times by the NYS employee that did checks and after not doing things properly he and a TC Sheriff went to his shop and took all his powder from him. I had an inspection once and forgot to make out a receipt for a pound of powder I used for personal use and got an ass chewing because I had aLB. of powder missing that there was no receipt for. I had 2 magazines with 50lbs' limit each. NYS Dept. of Labor oversees powder sales. Bl. powder required a license to sell but not smokeless.

Boy do I miss the bullsh!t in NY having a gun shop. Only state that requires a separate lic. to sell handguns which has to be renewed every 2 yrs.

 

[Acer-m14]

Bl. powder required a license to sell

and a explosion proof bunker too if i'm not mistaken to put it in , not just a wooden box with a lock like smokeless.. why you can't find and BP in NY stores .. and i want some FFFg

 

[XP100]

BP is considered a low grade explosive and smokeless is a highly flamable propellant

Also unless it has changed I could not sell only 15# to a person in one day and a person could not have more than 15# at one time at their residence.

Some of my customers wanted to buy 2, 8# jugs of shotgun powder from the same lot but I could not legally sell it to them all in one day. .

 

[Acer-m14]

BP is considered a low grade explosive and smokeless is a highly flamable propellant

Also unless it has changed I could not sell only 15# to a person in one day and a person could not have more than 15# at one time at their residence.

Some of my customers wanted to buy 2, 8# jugs of shotgun powder from the same lot but I could not legally sell it to them all in one day. .

no idea .. never seen the rules of storage for the reloaders in the books i have .. . then there is that thing on how to make BP .. LOL ..

but the 50 gals of Gas in the barn is A-Okay LOL ..

 

[XP100]

This BS and many other reasons is why I moved out of NY. Where I am now you don't need a CWP to buy a handgun. I have mine and can carry in 36 states. NY not included.
Cuomo just said the UNsafe act is not working so NY needs more gun laws passed. .