Permanent solution for temporary problems.

[Trauma47645]

A fellow firearms collector and friend of mine took the easy way out Wednesday. He leaves behind 2 children and a wife to pick up the pieces. I don't think anyone saw it coming either.

There is nothing more selfish than checking out before your time.

If you or anyone you know is having trouble, reach out. There are people and resources to get help.

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
Call 1-800-273-8255
Available 24 hours everyday

That is all

 

[Darth]

Sorry for your loss my friend.

 

[carpediem]

My condolences.

 

[Jmac00]

Its sad that people take this route. But I know some people that have taken this route. One guy was an account that was worth millions, but the NYS tax dept, started an investigation and audit of his holdings. He jumped off the Upper Falls Blvd bridge to end the audits and investigation. Im sure he could have gotten out of it, but he was looking at years of back audits and once the tax people get there hooks into you, they are relentless and they will go back as far as they want to get what they want.

Sorry for your loss, but under certain circumstances I can understand the thinking

 

[tirwin1]

I lost a friend in the same way 3 years ago. It came as a complete shock. We had gone to a local range and then had a couple of beers after that just a few weeks before he shot himself. We talked about work, wives, kids and politics. There was nothing he said that even remotely was associated with suicide. No one saw it coming. I understand your pain.

 

[Jezman]

Sorry for your loss. I feel your pain.

 

[Calculon]

Condolences on your loss and to his family.

 

[Defilade]

Sorry for your pain. Selfish act! Fuck him!

 

[Edwardteach72]

A fellow firearms collector and friend of mine took the easy way out Wednesday. He leaves behind 2 children and a wife to pick up the pieces. I don't think anyone saw it coming either.

There is nothing more selfish than checking out before your time.

If you or anyone you know is having trouble, reach out. There are people and resources to get help.

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
Call 1-800-273-8255
Available 24 hours everyday

That is all

Damn I'm sorry to hear that.


Last week one of my co-workers who I actually considered a friend did the same thing, one of the nicest most thoughtful guys I've ever met


Unfortunately people have a breaking point

 

[Edwardteach72]

Hell one of my best friends did the same thing our senior year of high schools, honestly I lost all respect for him when I found out,

Dont get me wrong, I get it, there is that breaking point for people, but the selfish part is not knowing when to ask for help

 

[Deplorable Me]

Hell one of my best friends did the same thing our senior year of high schools, honestly I lost all respect for him when I found out,

Dont get me wrong, I get it, there is that breaking point for people, but the selfish part is not knowing when to ask for help

There's fear, shame and isolation that factor into it. You feel isolated, lost and alone. You feel like you're mentally drowning. Two parents I know have had kids commit suicide this past year. The vocal people who cry out are easy to reach, it's the ones who suffer in silence that are difficult.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

There are people dying from illness, organ failures, etc. that would give anything for the life he squandered. Sorry for your loss but he didnt value what he gave up, and its shameful.

 

[redtail]

Awful. God help the family.
Condolences.

 

[Celt]

It's pretty sad when people think that's the only way out. Problems are temporary and suicide is permanent, just like your thread title says. Unfortunately people who are severely depressed don't think there is any way out, it's not rational and they're not thinking like normal people.

 

[99cummins]

That’s rough. Outside of someone suffering/terminally ill, I don’t get it. There are other options. Just disappear. Go somewhere and start over. That’s better than offing yourself. Suicide is pretty selfish. The impact the suicide has on friends and family is always rough and leaves everyone playing the what if game. And don’t forget the first responders who will have to answer that call as well. I’d you need help, reach out.

As for the suffering and terminally ill, there should be an option with a doc to end things. It should take a little work to ensure it is the best decision but we are backwards in this country on right to die.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

This is bad but... sometimes there ISN'T a way out. And even if there is sometimes people are just tired. They don't want help.

 

[MoMan]

Sorry for your and his Family's loss.

I've been through this numerous times. Guys I NEVER would have expected, just deciding to check out. Some who seemed fine just the day before, and no understanding of why. It sucks, and leaves everyone they know wondering how they missed the signs. The problem is, often times they hide it so well that there are no obvious signs.

 

[Cooolone]

First thoughts every time I encounter this is:

Cowardly, Selfish, Shame, Repulsive, Inconceivable...

I have no compassion for those who value this life we have so cheaply. Those who are willing to project their pain onto others.

But, then there's great sadness, when you learn about the battles and demons, many of those who do chose this path, have lived, battled and lost to...

I don't understand it, not at all, but I'm not in the fight!

And my life experience tells me, that until "YOU" are facing these demons, don't judge! Nobody knows, or can say how they'd act/chose, when faced with certain... Finality's.

Sorry for your loss.

 

[Karpteach]

I’m sorry for your loss.
May God give comfort and peace to his family.

 

[subsonic]

How awful, prayers for all his loved ones.

But I can think of a lot of things more selfish than suicide and I can think of a few people I know who have done them. At some point it doesn’t help to judge, as others have said, everyone has their breaking point. If he had simply ghosted his family, yes, that would have been a much better choice, but he would get hate for that too—it is also very selfish and not a solution, and it’s not like you can very well say “Leave me alone or I’ll kill myself” and expect a great outcome.

Our society is sick, let’s try to help fix it, be understanding and bring hope for a better future to hurting folks. Sometimes that means tough love and a reality check and sometimes it means just checking in and asking how someone’s doing and being a listening ear.

 

[misunderestimated]

Sorry for the loss, And yes its very easy to call names now , but I can tell you they had to be sick as no reasonable person would do such a thing, So please stop and think how bad they most of been feeling to think this was OK. Pray for the person we all lost and pray for there friends and family to find peice

 

[thegatman]

Sorry for your loss.

 

[meketrefe]

Sorry to hear brother.
Death s hard but even harder in those conditions.

 

[GOPerfect]

I will not judge these types of decisions.

I am sorry for the loss of your friend.

Good friends are hard to come by.

Horrible thing to have to go through as the friend. I have had to deal with this a couple of times.

 

[timboy]

Sorry for your loss.
Life is a daily struggle for some people,they may hide it well from those closest to them but the war that goes on in their mind can get the best of them even if it seems that they live a normal happy life.