Permit to purchase/ possess schemes

[dsdmmat]

Now that Bruen is decided, I wonder how long it is going to take for some industrious lawyer to challenge the permit to purchase/ own schemes?

The FOID and NY Handgun License/ Semi Auto Rifle permit schemes clearly have no historical basis at the time of the founding of the country.

Even background checks for ammo are blatantly unconstitutional with no historical foundation.

As I have stated before, “when the law becomes a joke, the rule of law is irrelevant.”

Dark times ahead for man as tyrants begin to tighten their grip on the power fleeting from their hands.

Make sure to only visit stores which say guns welcome here. If we could get gun owners and concerned citizens to pull together on this it should only take a month or two to see results.

I know that last sentence will never happen in the PRNY but…. Ok I will put away my optimism

 

[Jchrisls]

I agree. I have begun my searches for places that allow carry and have informed my wife I will patronize those when allow it to the best to my ability. Some locally have advertised it and I will be going there above all others. Will it dramatically change things? Probably not, but my money goes to those who support my beliefs, and stays in my wallet for those that don't.

 

[dsdmmat]

I disagree. I have begun my searches for places that allow carry and have informed my wife I will patronize those when allow it to the best to my ability. Some locally have advertised it and I will be going there above all others. Will it dramatically change things? Probably not, but my money goes to those who support my beliefs, and stays in my wallet for those that don't.

I certainly hope so. I have seen it work before in the 90s. It wasn’t much of a struggle as we are facing now but, one store in one small town almost had to close its doors because of an anti gun manager. It would be nice if it could happen all over the state.

 

[Jchrisls]

I certainly hope so. I have seen it work before in the 90s. It wasn’t much of a struggle as we are facing now but, one store in one small town almost had to close its doors because of an anti gun manager. It would be nice if it could happen all over the state.

Agreed. I was recently at a local store and noticed they had a sign out front that was a bit ambiguous regarding carry. I asked the manager ( being kind, not a Ken) if it was allowed to which he said " Absolutely, more people come in here armed than not. It would be weird if people didn't ". Immediately to the top of my list.

I've thought quite a bit this week about asking as. I enter if they intend to post signage allowing carry before purchasing and leaving if they didn't allow it but have yet the chance to do so. Today I intend to do just that as I have a bit of running around to do

 

[Jchrisls]

@admins- Would it be possible that a sticky thread be created that lists retail establishments that allow carry be posted? Possibly by counties?

Would be great especially for small local businesses.

 

[Saltwater60]

I have seen none in my area. One mark is in my area has done it and made the news, only problem is I don’t have a boat. I should have asked my wife if she saw one at the local butcher/small grocery store by me.
I asked one local business and he said he won’t be, but he doesn’t care if people do and won’t call the police, but he has workers that will. I’m sandwiches between Buffalo and Niagara Falls so it’s a pretty liberal area.
Yea supporting gun rights stores is a great idea and I do generally try to do it to the best of my abilities.

 

[Jchrisls]

Sportsman's Warehouse in Henrietta ( monroe) has a sign clearly posted on the entrance for conceal carry.
+1 they allow dogs.
Nick Tahoe in Rochester also posted.
Runnings in Brockport posted
+1 they allow dogs
All star tactical is good to go.
Venetos wood fired pizza in Gates NY ok based on lengthy interview with local news outlet

 

[omfgrub]

Make sure to only visit stores which say guns welcome here. If we could get gun owners and concerned citizens to pull together on this it should only take a month or two to see results.

I know that last sentence will never happen in the PRNY but…. Ok I will put away my optimism

I'm wondering if even just a handful of people from each town/city in NY could make this change catch on. They would have access to a huge stack of the "gun-friendly/guns welcome" signs, going about their normal daily/weekly/monthly/etc business while asking each store they visit if they want to display the signs. Those that say yes will receive that person's business; those that say no will get a respectful acknowledgement, and a view of the person taking their money elsewhere.

 

[Steal2B]

Talked to some small business owners who said they would have no problem with us concealed carrying, but stated they can not post a sign in fear of the aggressive activists who already visited and threatened the merchants in town with protests in front of their business.

 

[Egret-II]

Talked to some small business owners who said they would have no problem with us concealed carrying, but stated they can not post a sign in fear of the aggressive activists who already visited and threatened the merchants in town with protests in front of their business.

That's very nice for him to say he has no problem that we carry on his store. However, if we have to defend ourselves in his store. We will go to jail.
This is how I see it. If he puts the stupid signs outside of his store. EVERYONE can buy at his store: Gun nuts (us) and anti guns people. But If he doesnt, ONLY the anti guns people will be allowed. From a business perspective I'd want EVERYONE to buy at my store.

 

[ManualF150]

I own a small business, I have the sign posted at my entrance of my property. Clearly visible to all.

 

[Jchrisls]

Approached a local vape shop I frequent about access. Have a plan to meet with the owner at the end of the month.

 

[Jchrisls]

That's very nice for him to say he has no problem that we carry on his store. However, if we have to defend ourselves in his store. We will go to jail.
This is how I see it. If he puts the stupid signs outside of his store. EVERYONE can buy at his store: Gun nuts (us) and anti guns people. But If he doesnt, ONLY the anti guns people will be allowed. From a business perspective I'd want EVERYONE to buy at my store.

I somewhat agree. The somewhat comes from this. If you had to defend yourself in any location, you will be going to jail regardless. It's NY

 

[Egret-II]

I somewhat agree. The somewhat comes from this. If you had to defend yourself in any location, you will be going to jail regardless. It's NY

Lol, pick your poison. Either you let the criminal kill you. That'll be a quick end to your life. Or you kill the criminal, and you go to jail. Your life will be over anyway, but slowly.

 

[Saltwater60]

Talked to some small business owners who said they would have no problem with us concealed carrying, but stated they can not post a sign in fear of the aggressive activists who already visited and threatened the merchants in town with protests in front of their business.

Was it Kathy hochul and her goons?

 

[Saltwater60]

Approached a local vape shop I frequent about access. Have a plan to meet with the owner at the end of the month.

Good for you and be respectful. Do your best.
I looked at my local Home Depot and didn’t see a sign at the garden center entrance. Ill look at the main entrance next time. I was in a hurry

 

[pjzwtl]

Talked to some small business owners who said they would have no problem with us concealed carrying, but stated they can not post a sign in fear of the aggressive activists who already visited and threatened the merchants in town with protests in front of their business.

Hence the whole point of requiring a sign.

 

[Steal2B]

Was it Kathy hochul and her goons?

Actually you are close, Antonio Delgado goons

 

[Grimscale]

I know a lot of you don't do Farcebook. Neither do I.
But I heard about this at my local gun club:
WNY gun friendly businesses

Facebook

www.facebook.com

 

[Saltwater60]

I know a lot of you don't do Farcebook. Neither do I.
But I heard about this at my local gun club:
WNY gun friendly businesses

Facebook

www.facebook.com

Thanks my wife has it so I was able to see the list. There are very few places by me on the list but I can make a change here and there to accommodate and visit a store or two on the list.

 

[Steal2B]

That's very nice for him to say he has no problem that we carry on his store. However, if we have to defend ourselves in his store. We will go to jail.
This is how I see it. If he puts the stupid signs outside of his store. EVERYONE can buy at his store: Gun nuts (us) and anti guns people. But If he doesnt, ONLY the anti guns people will be allowed. From a business perspective I'd want EVERYONE to buy at my store.

Easy to say but these owners live over their shops with their families and from 2016 to 2018 they saw some of these funded aggressive activists relentlessly disrupt their business district. These are the same Bloomburg funded protesters who went after young girl scouts trying to make a civics visit to the Republican Congressman's office. This was intimidation.

 

[Egret-II]

Easy to say but these owners live over their shops with their families and from 2016 to 2018 they saw some of these funded aggressive activists relentlessly disrupt their business district. These are the same Bloomburg funded protesters who went after young girl scouts trying to make a civics visit to the Republican Congressman's office. This was intimidation.

I think we can safely conclude that NY won then. If the goverment of NY can do whatever it wants without any consequences. Cops will enforce any ridiculous law that FUHK puts out, Because they want to keep their jobs and their pensions. People will not be willing to risk their freedom carrying their guns into businesses if the businesses dont have a "gun allowed " sign. Businesses will not put a sign out because they are afraid of the woke mob. And defending yourself will possibly ruin you financially . Then. What is the point of having a concealed carry permit now?

Maybe when these laws are tossed out, it'll be a different story. But as of now. I see no point.

 

[Phazer]

I have seen none in my area.

I live in Westchester. I do not expect to ever see any down here. It wouldn't be prudent for a business in the center of the Woketopian Empire to expressely support the U.S. Constitution. Posting such signage here is guaranteed to spur a protest by the "tolerant" liberal progressives who will act violently and destructively. This is why compelled speech in support of the U.S. Constitution should be illegal. If a business owner wants to set private policy against governmental regulations, fine. Forcing speech from business owners who only support the constitution should not be permitted.

 

[Truebeliever]

Now that Bruen is decided, I wonder how long it is going to take for some industrious lawyer to challenge the permit to purchase/ own schemes?

The FOID and NY Handgun License/ Semi Auto Rifle permit schemes clearly have no historical basis at the time of the founding of the country.

Even background checks for ammo are blatantly unconstitutional with no historical foundation.

As I have stated before, “when the law becomes a joke, the rule of law is irrelevant.”

Dark times ahead for man as tyrants begin to tighten their grip on the power fleeting from their hands.

Make sure to only visit stores which say guns welcome here. If we could get gun owners and concerned citizens to pull together on this it should only take a month or two to see results.

I know that last sentence will never happen in the PRNY but…. Ok I will put away my optimism

It would have to win against Kavanaugh’s concurrent majority opinion that says permit schemes are okay.

 

[FRB]

@admins- Would it be possible that a sticky thread be created that lists retail establishments that allow carry be posted? Possibly by counties?

Would be great especially for small local businesses.

We have one here, would be nice if it was pinned: https://nygunforum.com/threads/gun-friendly-establishments.53572/