Physicians for Civil Defense

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Physicians for Civil Defense
The mission of Physicians for Civil Defense is to save lives of first responders and the general public in the event of disasters, especially terrorist attacks using dirty bombs or nuclear weapons.

In today’s unprepared America, the only feasible plan that could save millions of lives on very short notice is the Nuclear War Survival Skills plan, using simple, government-developed and tested technology.

The NWSS plan has three key elements, in addition to prudent preparedness that applies to all disasters:

• Drop and Cover
• Shelter In Place
• Radiologic Monitoring

 

[livingston]

The Good News About Nuclear Destruction

WHAT TO DO IF A NUCLEAR DISASTER IS IMMINENT!

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[livingston]

"According to the 1946 book Hiroshima, in the days between the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings in Japan, one Hiroshima policeman went to Nagasaki to teach police about ducking after the atomic flash. As a result of this timely warning, not a single Nagasaki policeman died in the initial blast. Unfortunately, the general population was not warned of the heat/blast danger following an atomic flash because of the bomb's unknown nature. Many people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki died while searching the skies for the source of the brilliant flash." 4

Robert Trumbull - the New York Times Pacific and Asia war correspondent, 1941-79 who had been in Iwo Jima - documented more double-bombing survivors in his 1957 book Nine Who Survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Personal Experiences of Nine Men who Lived Through Both Atomic Bombings5. Two of their experiences and their ages on 9 August 1945:

Tsutomu Yamaguchi, 29, Mitsubishi ship designer who died in 2010, aged 93 (Trumbull pp. 28 and 109): "'Suddenly there was a flash like the lighting of a huge magnesium flare,' Yamaguchi recalls. The young ship designer was so well drilled in air-raid precaution techniques that he reacted automatically. He flung his hands to his head, covering his eyes with his fingers and stopping his ears with his two thumbs. Simultaneously he dropped to the ground, face down. ... 'As I prostrated myself, there came a terrific explosion' ... [The left side of his face and arm facing the fireball were burned, and he returned to Nagasaki, experiencing the second nuclear explosion on the sixth-floor of the headquarters office of Mitsubishi.] Spelling out the danger of flying glass, he urged them to keep windows open during an air-raid alert, and at the instant of the flash to seize at once upon any shelter available ... the second A-bomb confirmed young Yamaguchi's words, exploding in a huge ball of fire about a mile away. Yamaguchi's lecture [just an hour earlier!] ... was not lost upon his colleagues. With the young designer's words still fresh in their minds, they leaped for the cover of desks and tables. 'As a result,' said Yamaguchi, 'my section staff suffered the least in that building. In other sections there was a heavy toll of serious injuries from flying glass'."

Masao Komatsu, 40, was hit by falling beam in a Hiroshima warehouse and was on board a train in Nagasaki when the bomb fell (Trumbull, p101): "...the interior of the coach was bathed in a stark, white light. Komatsu immediately dived for the floor. 'Get down!' he screamed at the other passengers. Some recovered sufficiently from the daze of the blinding light to react promptly to his warning. Seconds later came the deafening crack of the blast, and a shock wave that splintered all the windows on both sides of the train. The passengers who had not dived under the seats were slashed mercilessly from waist to head by glass flying at bullet speed."

 

[livingston]

We went through these drills at school in the 60's ... Many folks today laugh how stupid it was to duck and cover ... However when one reads what I posted above it did make sense ...I have been in the emergency room at Strong here in Rochester ... Not uncommon for a 1-2 hour wait ( I ask the staff ) If it is an above average night... or time period ... I have seen with my parents where they are admitted and it took a day (24 hours ) to be taken to a room ... .. No rooms at the inn folks . Think of the case where 50-100,000 people in a city have just glass injuries due to flying glass . Let alone burns . in the case of a Nuke . Could be weeks before any help was administered . As I have said that a co-worker had lived in California and he was on a emergency response team for his building. He was told that LA could have a foot or two of glass in the streets from the tall buildings ... .. Most homes would have flying glass ...
Earthquake - Bay of Plenty Civil Defence

www.bopcivildefence.govt.nz/know-your-hazards/earthquake/

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Getting ready before an earthquake strikes will help reduce the damage to ... Most earthquake-related injuries and deaths result from falling debris, flying glass ...

 

[Blimey]

We went through these drills at school in the 60's ... Many folks today laugh how stupid it was to duck and cover ... However when one reads what I posted above it did make sense ...I have been in the emergency room at Strong here in Rochester ... Not uncommon for a 1-2 hour wait ( I ask the staff ) If it is an above average night... or time period ... I have seen with my parents where they are admitted and it took a day (24 hours ) to be taken to a room ... .. No rooms at the inn folks . Think of the case where 50-100,000 people in a city have just glass injuries due to flying glass . Let alone burns . in the case of a Nuke . Could be weeks before any help was administered . As I have said that a co-worker had lived in California and he was on a emergency response team for his building. He was told that LA could have a foot or two of glass in the streets from the tall buildings ... .. Most homes would have flying glass ...
Earthquake - Bay of Plenty Civil Defence

www.bopcivildefence.govt.nz/know-your-hazards/earthquake/

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Getting ready before an earthquake strikes will help reduce the damage to ... Most earthquake-related injuries and deaths result from falling debris, flying glass ...

If I'm fairly close to a nuke blast I just hope I'm even closer. It's done.

As for the ER you're right. A natural or manmade disaster that results in, say, 100 people needing critical trauma care right now is going to require an all hands on deck surge from every local hospital in a city of Rochester's size. What if it was 300 or 500, unless you're actively bleeding out you'll get a paramedic to put you in a line and then you will be waiting a very long time.

 

[livingston]

If I'm fairly close to a nuke blast I just hope I'm even closer. It's done.

As for the ER you're right. A natural or manmade disaster that results in, say, 100 people needing critical trauma care right now is going to require an all hands on deck surge from every local hospital in a city of Rochester's size. What if it was 300 or 500, unless you're actively bleeding out you'll get a paramedic to put you in a line and then you will be waiting a very long time.

If we had a state wide event it could be days .Say the big one in California . Every city could have problems all along the coast. ..How many nurses, DR's will not be able to get to the hospital . As I mentioned before LA could have a foot of broken glass in the streets . Gas mains ruptured .. Blocks after blocks on fire with no water . We talk about in a SHTF situation the police in many cases would not report and they would tend to their families . What about the medical staff . ... No heat or water in their home and one has a couple of small children . Will you just leave them or take a child to work day walking 10-15 miles just to get to the hospital. .... This is why folks one needs a halfway decent medical kit and some knowledge in using it . ... Look what happens during a major hurricane .... Medical services are at their breaking point.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

NWSS is a great book. you used to be able to download it for free from OISM.org (oregon institute of science and medicine) and order paper copies. Another good one, "The Effects of Nuclear Weapons" 1977ed.Gladstone and Dolan?. "First into Nagasaki"