Pistol Permit Re-Certification Getting Closer Political or Gun Talk?

[livingston]

NY UN-SAFE ACT SUCKS \

What a Confusing,Piece of shit legislation it is Poorly written by Stupid people.

I can't wait to leave NY and its corrupt politicians

Michigan Dems introduce ‘assault weapon’ ban in state House

You can run but the number of free states are dwindling fast .What we are going through now in NY folks across the country will see shortly.

From the above link ...How many hunters can use an AR-15 for yotes under this language ?

“Assault weapons” already in circulation could be retained by their owners but would need to be registered with the state police. The bill would also empower the agency to conduct annual inspections of the gun to ensure safe storage. Once registered, the owner would have to update their registration every year and could only possess it in working order at shooting ranges or their own property, with the transport to and from being unloaded and in a secured container.

 

[Rethin]

Brush some spoiled milk on the inside of the box .. LOL .. or melt some Limburger cheese in it .. LMAO

I'm pretty sure you'd have committed a felony or two if you did that.

 

[fartgamer]

Michigan Dems introduce ‘assault weapon’ ban in state House

You can run but the number of free states are dwindling fast .What we are going through now in NY folks across the country will see shortly.

From the above link ...How many hunters can use an AR-15 for yotes under this language ?

“Assault weapons” already in circulation could be retained by their owners but would need to be registered with the state police. The bill would also empower the agency to conduct annual inspections of the gun to ensure safe storage. Once registered, the owner would have to update their registration every year and could only possess it in working order at shooting ranges or their own property, with the transport to and from being unloaded and in a secured container.

I think Michigan also has handgun registration similar to NY, all pistols listed on your license.

 

[4excal]

Michigan..LOOL. Half criminals and desolate where everyone should be carrying..and half beautiful wilderness where everyone should be carrying..

 

[Defilade]

I'm Grandfathered.

 

[Catskillkid]

The thing that bothers me most about this is that this can (and likely will) be an excuse for them to find ways to revoke your permit and seize ALL of your guns (hand and long guns). They'll never admit but what's to stop them from pulling every permit holders medical records (HIPPA be damned) to see what type of treatment they've received. The only reason they haven't done it yet is because everything thus far is decentralized with the counties. This helps the state create a nice shiny new database where your whole life is just a few keystrokes away. And like the no-fly and terrorism watch lists I'm pretty sure there isn't a way to challenge it once you've been flagged.

 

[RayKnobs]

There is currently a legal battle right now trying to force the NYS police to release any information they have collected on yourself thru FOIL.
STOP THE SECRECY - S.C.O.P.E. Dedicated to the Protecting Your Civil Rights

 

[Phauxtoe]

2.5 years for me, just 2.5 years left in this state!

 

[fartgamer]

It's not like the NYSP have no idea what you own.

NYS Police vs. Local LEO | Law and Policy

 

[BerettaGuy]

Seriously need to consider this act of civil protest.
Permit holders issued a license to own a handgun prior to Jan 2013 will have to have the re-certification process submitted back to the State Police prior to 1/31/18.

The notified permit holders will have until 1/31/2018 to submit.

Are you thinking what i am thinking?
Everyone mail them in on Jan 13th 2018.
Let them scratch their ass for all of 2017 and then get deluged on Jan 13th.

As they say: This will meet the statutory requirement.

Jan 13 for the passage of NY FE in Jan of 2013.

 

[Jmac00]

Seriously need to consider this act of civil protest.
Permit holders issued a license to own a handgun prior to Jan 2013 will have to have the re-certification process submitted back to the State Police prior to 1/31/18.

The notified permit holders will have until 1/31/2018 to submit.

Are you thinking what i am thinking?
Everyone mail them in on Jan 13th 2018.
Let them scratch their ass for all of 2017 and then get deluged on Jan 13th.

As they say: This will meet the statutory requirement.

Jan 13 for the passage of NY FE in Jan of 2013.

LOL, a couple million MAILED IN certifications in one week will cripple the system LOL

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Still don't understand how a bill can pass giving the SP authority over a County Judge. Opposite side of the fence as far as I'm concerned.
AND......what happened to the "attorneys" who were fighting the crap act and how about Rep Ortt who fooled a lot of us into voting for him and he has done NOTHING

Also...mail in the recerts on the 31st and they most likely will state they received them too late and now denied. Guys/Gals....they have all the power and we have to comply/leave the state or die. FUAC

24) It was stressed that the Role of the State Police is as record keepers, not licensing officers making decisions on individual permits.

#24...so how do/can they revoke the permit....contradiction of course...Record keepers only do gazintas and gozattas....no power

 

[Eddie Gunks]

whatever. my permit says "good until revoked" so they can call or write me. other than that fuck them.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

they know who has one and where to find them

see above. then they can call or write. fuck them

 

[NYGuns]

Where is the NRA during all of this? Are they getting involved or trying to help or are have they really just given up on NY all together?

 

[Deplorable Me]

Hey FUDDS, it's getting real now. Sorry your lazy asses were home last gubbiner's election?

 

[Phauxtoe]

judging by how FUAC gets things done,
this will go the way of Ammo BGC!

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Where is the NRA during all of this? Are they getting involved or trying to help or are have they really just given up on NY all together?

NRA=MIA

 

[99cummins]

Oh boy is this looking like a clusterfuck. I don't think the whole thing is feasible. What about all the people with permits that aren't actively seeking this info? Only way I know about all this is here. How are a total of 24 people (most if not all of whom are probably incompetent) going to handle all this? I agree they are going to be looking for any reason to pull permits. The whole thing has disaster written all over it. All these hoops to jump thru for a right. What if voting was this difficult? Or getting those govt bennies? Fuuuuck you ny and the horse you rode in on.

 

[218bee]

OK, NRA.....You threw us to the wolves with SAFE....and we paid dearly for it here in NY. Here's your chance to unf**k yourself and practice what you preach, when it comes to protecting the 2A & our gun rights. You're good at TV commercials and donation calls, but here in NY we're in the foxhole alone, taking grenades. Let's see what you got.

 

[GOPerfect]

For many of us Permit Holders, this is almost no big deal/ Hear me out, many of us pay attention to what is happening, whether the Safe Act, recert and so on. There are many who have very little knowledge of what is going on. My father in law is a great example; he has had his permit for over fifty years. All of a sudden he needs to recert? C'mon, if it weren't for me letting him know, he would have zero knowledge of this. His permit would be revoked and the State/County would inform him by showing up to his house to take his guns. Stories like this are going to pop up everywhere.

What about all of the Deployed Servicemen who are off fighting? Do they get a pass or an extension? What about someone who is in a como? Might be far reaching, but possible. There are so many exceptions, how the hell they going to contend with all of this?

is so broken, I want to laugh bit this is some serious shit. FUBAR does not begin to describe this situation.

 

[Phauxtoe]

I am not an NRA apologist, but they are not mind readers and that's the whole reason Cuomo did it the way he did it.
Late night, overnight no advance notice vote so he could remove the opposition and get it passed!

We New Yorkers need to take responsibility for our own politicians

 

[Mr. terzmo]

For many of us Permit Holders, this is almost no big deal/ Hear me out, many of us pay attention to what is happening, whether the Safe Act, recert and so on. There are many who have very little knowledge of what is going on. My father in law is a great example; he has had his permit for over fifty years. All of a sudden he needs to recert? C'mon, if it weren't for me letting him know, he would have zero knowledge of this. His permit would be revoked and the State/County would inform him by showing up to his house to take his guns. Stories like this are going to pop up everywhere.

What about all of the Deployed Servicemen who are off fighting? Do they get a pass or an extension? What about someone who is in a como? Might be far reaching, but possible. There are so many exceptions, how the hell they going to contend with all of this?

is so broken, I want to laugh bit this is some serious shit. FUBAR does not begin to describe this situation.

They're sending letters to all who need to re-certify as I understand it. Military overseas would then have to be contacted by Family/friends or IF they changed their address to the CBPO of occupation,they'd get it there. They can re-cert by computer

Do I support this gestapho BS..no FUAC way

"I am not and are an NRA apologist, but they are not mind readers and that's the whole reason Cuomo did it the way he did it.
Late night, overnight no advance notice vote so he could remove the opposition and get it passed!"

Isn't this available for action,even after the fact?? The NRA has no ""mind" for NY er's except to drain their pocketbook. People should be ashamed to support the NRA.

 

[218bee]

I see your point, Phaux, but respectfully disagree. It was in the wind and being talked about for a good while before they voted on it. Admittedly we're not behind the scenes and only know a little of the political logistics of this passing, but from our end, the NRA didn't even throw a punch. I was always a faithful member, but no more. I gave a lot of money over the years and the one time they could have made a real difference, they dropped the ball. They will have to earn my respect again before I think about rejoining. Not just pick the "winnable" fights. Sorry if I come across as a hater, as I'm not..It's just how I see it.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I got a Florida Non Resident CCW and it has to be renewed every 7 years. No big deal. I knew that going in Here it is totally different. Here it is a damn scheme. Here you need a CCW just to possess a handgun. Do the FUDD's or any of you see what the real intent is for the so called re certification?

Remember this.

The State POLICE Gun Squad will check your name and address against arrest records. Most of you will say No problems with that. Now they check a you against prescription records.

BOOM License revoked ! Knock Knock Knock on the door. Surrender your Private freaking property.

ONE LAST TIME!
THAT IS THE PROBLEM! Not paying a re cert fee, Not going through another background check (although against the Fifth Amendment) it is the seizure of your guns (Fourth Amendment) because they have infringed the Second Amendment. and that is the only reason Cuomo and friends put this in the FE Act.
Once the get the SA part active then when the Knock on the door comes, they will have a list of calibers to look for in long guns too.

A civil action to delay mailing until the last minute to overwhelm the system will meet the legal requirements and give the middle finger to them.

 

[1911guy]

I will maintain my NRA membership!!! They certainly do help. But NY is a tough nut to crack. If for nothing else, the work they do nationally is worth membership.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

I will maintain my NRA membership!!! They certainly do help. But NY is a tough nut to crack. If for nothing else, the work they do nationally is worth membership.

Why all their efforts(NRA) in Califoristan ?

 

[Darth]

Where is the NRA during all of this? Are they getting involved or trying to help or are have they really just given up on NY all together?

Ooo, let me get out my apologist bingo board!

What's the free space this time? "Lost cause", "doing stuff for other states" or "donated a couple boxes of ammo to MY club!"?

 

[NirvanaFan]

I am not an NRA apologist, but they are not mind readers and that's the whole reason Cuomo did it the way he did it.
Late night, overnight no advance notice vote so he could remove the opposition and get it passed!

We New Yorkers need to take responsibility for our own politicians

The public knew about it beforehand. It may not have been known too long, but it was. I know because I called my representative and expressed my thoughts. The gun rights groups may have known even longer.

 

[Jmac00]

not to worry, the state police will be sending out PSA and news releases to the media in November and December of 2017 so NO ONE will have an excuse unless your Amish, in which case you don't own any firearms.

The problems will arise when they deem you're no longer qualified to own HANDGUNS, when they come for your hands guns, guess what? they will TAKE EVERYTHING, handguns, rifles, shotguns, all your ammo and reloading supplies. Towards the end of 2017, I'll be moving a lot of stuff to 'other states' ~~~~just as a precaution, until this BS settles down and we see where this goes.

If it really goes south, I'll be moving TO another state by 2019

I'll leave New Yorkistan to the Syrian and middle eastern refugees. Let's see how cuomo can keep the lights on with no tax base