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Remember O'Keefe's story about money laundering through Act Blue?
An update just dropped.
Video:
FEC story update: Chinese money involved in ActBlue donations
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I'll put this here because it is political, and involves pictures.
If you are curious about how the laundering purportedly works, I ran some analytics and pattern analysis on PAC data from my area. Filter on "NOT EMPLOYED" or "RETIRED", then pick out anyone with multiple ActBlue donations on the same day. As a person you would hit their website, type in how much you want to spend, click a checkbox for a each PAC you like, with a % to split to each, and submit. Done, that's one donation, split x ways, and I'll call that 1 split on that day. You log in to donate $5, or $5000, today, and divvy it up. Once. Do it twice? To the same PAC? Sure, but less often.
We're looking for oddities. What you don't do, is log in and do a split 2, 3, 5, or 8 times in the same day. You also don't do them by hand *every* day. Once per pay period? Every Tuesday? Every 1st and 15th? Sure. But not on the 4th, 5th, then the 7th, then 9th, 10th, 15th, then 16th, then 19th, 21st... for random amounts, "by hand".
Below is a *count* of how many distinct splits were made each day by a donor, each PAC has a color code (who). Height is how many, the labels are how much. The timespan is from March to Dec 31. The thing you might notice, most of all, is a complete lack of pattern as to who, or when, or how many, or how much.
(sky blue is a donated "tip" to ActBlue itself, in case you hadn't guessed.)
That person logged in to give... one dollar. Total, that day. Then he did that two more times to different PACs. In the same week.
Second example - Again, sky blue is Act Blue, height is the count of splits they got that day, at most 1 split per donation. That really tall bar is 8 splits of $1 each.
This person quite literally made 8 distinct runs through the donation wizard on the same day of Sept 30 for a total of $88, instead of splitting $80 all in one pass. And they KNEW how to do multiple splits - one donation was to Fetterman for $10, and another was to Fetterman and Val for a 5/5 split. Meanwhile, they did two distinct runs to give MarchOn $10, twice. Because their "2" key is broken.
Seems legit. But they keep right on going on the 1st. They sure do love that MarchOn PAC.
Both of those people were hitting that website multiple times per day, 3 to 7 days per week, often splitting to the same PACs multiple days in a row, some times on the same day. Maybe they're just bored. It's possible. Especially since they are "NOT EMPLOYED" with a hopefully a good retirement. It happens.
Buuttt... that's also exactly how a distributed ChiComm interference / laundering op would look.
Below is a curious timing of a "NOT EMPLOYED" $3000 across 500 splits, it is a count of splits per PAC per day. See those 2s? That's two separate splits to that PAC in the same day, which is why they showed up. Perhaps this person is some batshit 90 year old with no memory, randomly clicking shit in the morning, then again after lunch, then again that same night. 500 times from March to Jan 1. But if this is an example of laundering, it's nice to know the ChiComms got a good laugh by trolling us with Fetterman, lol. Iowa, Georgia, Nevada and Schiff are commonly present when this (lack of) pattern is present, as are a few others. Whoever it is, they sure do remember to click on DSCC and MarchOn, though. They sure as fuck remember that.
The thing is, there's a bunch of "people" doing this with $1 and $3 amounts per day, for maybe up to a grand over the course of a year. Nobody hits a fucking ActBlue website to make a $3 spend, several times a week, and never on the same day-of-week, or day-of-month. You give $10. Or $50. Hell, even $5. You don't go through that bullshit for $1. And then do it again an hour later for another fucking $1. And never $3. Who the F would type "3"? Quite a few people, in fact. I have to wonder at what point the cost of processing the donation is greater THAN the donation. That'd be the ultimate laundering. Still, why would someone donate $3 to a specific PAC, five days in a row for just one week and then stop. Why not donate $15 on Monday, and save 4 transaction costs. ActBlue has got to be losing their shirt when that crap happens.
Compare the above with legit activist donors (Employment filter on education and lawyers), and the pattern is nothing like that. Those patterns tend to follow day-of-month, pay period, rallies, and news. And not $1.
Looking at the activist types, I do find it gross that people from this state meddle in the elections of other states. I thought colonization and foreign interference were bad.
This is what the timing of a legit recurring split looks like over the course of a year, with a couple of legit 2-splits on the same day. This one is colored by day-of-week. You can see where DCCC gets 2 splits on the same day, every month. Follow the colors, you'll see one is a recurring split between DCCC and Shaheen, and the other is a recurrence between DCCC and some other bullshit off the screen. But the splits and the amounts are always the same, and the timing doesn't vary.
The above example is pretty common, and will usually include a bunch of one-offs as you approach November. But even then, those ad-hocs do not resemble the... uh, curious timings and amounts previously mentioned.
If the ChiCom laundering is true, it'd be cool if there were a reliable way to pick which donor names were being impersonated to mule the money, so we could divine specifically which PACs are the ones being supported by the ChiComs from the noise.
I'm also curious if there are any tax implications for the people who had their identities hijacked.
But mostly, I'm really curious as to which Republican PACs the ChiComs did this with.
An update just dropped.
Video:
FEC story update: Chinese money involved in ActBlue donations
------------
I'll put this here because it is political, and involves pictures.
If you are curious about how the laundering purportedly works, I ran some analytics and pattern analysis on PAC data from my area. Filter on "NOT EMPLOYED" or "RETIRED", then pick out anyone with multiple ActBlue donations on the same day. As a person you would hit their website, type in how much you want to spend, click a checkbox for a each PAC you like, with a % to split to each, and submit. Done, that's one donation, split x ways, and I'll call that 1 split on that day. You log in to donate $5, or $5000, today, and divvy it up. Once. Do it twice? To the same PAC? Sure, but less often.
We're looking for oddities. What you don't do, is log in and do a split 2, 3, 5, or 8 times in the same day. You also don't do them by hand *every* day. Once per pay period? Every Tuesday? Every 1st and 15th? Sure. But not on the 4th, 5th, then the 7th, then 9th, 10th, 15th, then 16th, then 19th, 21st... for random amounts, "by hand".
Below is a *count* of how many distinct splits were made each day by a donor, each PAC has a color code (who). Height is how many, the labels are how much. The timespan is from March to Dec 31. The thing you might notice, most of all, is a complete lack of pattern as to who, or when, or how many, or how much.
(sky blue is a donated "tip" to ActBlue itself, in case you hadn't guessed.)
That person logged in to give... one dollar. Total, that day. Then he did that two more times to different PACs. In the same week.
Second example - Again, sky blue is Act Blue, height is the count of splits they got that day, at most 1 split per donation. That really tall bar is 8 splits of $1 each.
This person quite literally made 8 distinct runs through the donation wizard on the same day of Sept 30 for a total of $88, instead of splitting $80 all in one pass. And they KNEW how to do multiple splits - one donation was to Fetterman for $10, and another was to Fetterman and Val for a 5/5 split. Meanwhile, they did two distinct runs to give MarchOn $10, twice. Because their "2" key is broken.
Seems legit. But they keep right on going on the 1st. They sure do love that MarchOn PAC.
Both of those people were hitting that website multiple times per day, 3 to 7 days per week, often splitting to the same PACs multiple days in a row, some times on the same day. Maybe they're just bored. It's possible. Especially since they are "NOT EMPLOYED" with a hopefully a good retirement. It happens.
Buuttt... that's also exactly how a distributed ChiComm interference / laundering op would look.
Below is a curious timing of a "NOT EMPLOYED" $3000 across 500 splits, it is a count of splits per PAC per day. See those 2s? That's two separate splits to that PAC in the same day, which is why they showed up. Perhaps this person is some batshit 90 year old with no memory, randomly clicking shit in the morning, then again after lunch, then again that same night. 500 times from March to Jan 1. But if this is an example of laundering, it's nice to know the ChiComms got a good laugh by trolling us with Fetterman, lol. Iowa, Georgia, Nevada and Schiff are commonly present when this (lack of) pattern is present, as are a few others. Whoever it is, they sure do remember to click on DSCC and MarchOn, though. They sure as fuck remember that.
The thing is, there's a bunch of "people" doing this with $1 and $3 amounts per day, for maybe up to a grand over the course of a year. Nobody hits a fucking ActBlue website to make a $3 spend, several times a week, and never on the same day-of-week, or day-of-month. You give $10. Or $50. Hell, even $5. You don't go through that bullshit for $1. And then do it again an hour later for another fucking $1. And never $3. Who the F would type "3"? Quite a few people, in fact. I have to wonder at what point the cost of processing the donation is greater THAN the donation. That'd be the ultimate laundering. Still, why would someone donate $3 to a specific PAC, five days in a row for just one week and then stop. Why not donate $15 on Monday, and save 4 transaction costs. ActBlue has got to be losing their shirt when that crap happens.
Compare the above with legit activist donors (Employment filter on education and lawyers), and the pattern is nothing like that. Those patterns tend to follow day-of-month, pay period, rallies, and news. And not $1.
Looking at the activist types, I do find it gross that people from this state meddle in the elections of other states. I thought colonization and foreign interference were bad.
This is what the timing of a legit recurring split looks like over the course of a year, with a couple of legit 2-splits on the same day. This one is colored by day-of-week. You can see where DCCC gets 2 splits on the same day, every month. Follow the colors, you'll see one is a recurring split between DCCC and Shaheen, and the other is a recurrence between DCCC and some other bullshit off the screen. But the splits and the amounts are always the same, and the timing doesn't vary.
The above example is pretty common, and will usually include a bunch of one-offs as you approach November. But even then, those ad-hocs do not resemble the... uh, curious timings and amounts previously mentioned.
If the ChiCom laundering is true, it'd be cool if there were a reliable way to pick which donor names were being impersonated to mule the money, so we could divine specifically which PACs are the ones being supported by the ChiComs from the noise.
I'm also curious if there are any tax implications for the people who had their identities hijacked.
But mostly, I'm really curious as to which Republican PACs the ChiComs did this with.
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