Question about the SAFE ACT

[Potatorack]

I dont know if this is a question that has been answered before. If so please link it so I can read the thread. So I have a mossberg 930 semi auto shotgun that I bought 3 months ago. I wanted to add a pistol grip stock to it but my local FFL said it was illegal because the state realized they forgot to put it into the law so they acted on it and made it illegal. I wanted to know if this is true. I also wanted to know if I can put an angled foregrip on my shotgun forend since it has picatinny rails. I saw somewhere that there is an exemption for semi auto shotguns that hold only 5 rounds and I have a 4+1 so it qualifies if this is the case.

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[E the massive]

Put it on yourself.

 

[holdover]

Free men don't ask for permission.

 

[knuts]

from my understanding, you Cant have a thumbhole stock but a pistol grip is ok. as long as its not on a telescoping stock. go figure.
also no protruding grip for the non shooting hand, i guess that includes the angled forgrip, not sure. i could be wrong i dont have a semi shotty... yet

 

[wdeister08]

Pistol grip + fixed stock good to go. Buy a handstop instead of an act

 

[wdeister08]

Free men don't ask for permission.

Easy to say that with the LEO exemptions that exist.

Pistol grip + fixed stock good to go. Buy a handstop instead of an angled foregrip. Same great taste without the jail

 

[holdover]

No.I have zero LEO exemptions. And its not easy to say or do. Your government is denying you of your basic human rights . What you do is up to you. You can roll over like most people do , OR you can give a great big fuck you to the Narcissistic, egotistical communist bastard that thinks he owns the people in the state. You don't have to have ask anyone about how you should defend yourself. What good is the law when its been corrupted? You know right and wrong. The thing is, are you willing to stick your head in the fucking guillotine ? Are you willing to sacrifice for what you believe is right? I know, we have jobs, familys, homes . Everybody wants somebody else to step up to plate , But that's not gonna happen. its just us. Me and you . We are going to make a difference or were not. Go along with the program or don't. What good are people when they are law abiding to a corrupt law? what kind of men do that?

People are worried if a fucking hand grip is illegal , Just how fucking pathetic is that? Stay on one side of the fence or the other, What are you going to do when they eventually ban guns altogether? Your going to turn them over because you have to much to lose. If you don't make a stand now, you will never make a stand . .When the British attempted to size the guns at Concord, the colonists didn't take them to court , they didn't sue , they shot them fucking dead . That's how history deals with tyrants. Or they hang them from the fucking lampposts.


The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in times of crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
-Thomas Paine

Thomas Jefferson argued that "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

You fear the government Arresting you for a weapons violation. by definition you are living under tyranny right now. Its time to wake up .

 

[cgrutt]

OK, I'll play even though my spidey senses are saying the OP is FOS, lol.

Pistol grip OK on semi auto shotgun 7 round or less capacity as long as it doesn't have another "evil" feature such as folding stock or second hand grip. 5 rounds or less you can have whatever "evil feature" you want. No such thing as "they forgot to add that" under NY law. It's there or it isn't. Good luck.

BTW PL 265 spells it all out for you if you are actually interested. My feeling is you're not, lol...

 

[Potatorack]

Thanks for clarifying. No need to get all pissy it was just a little question. Its the first gun i have ever bought so im not 100% sure on what can and cannot be on my gun. I'll check out PL 265. Im not shitposting I was actually told that by my local FFL if you dont believe me call hudson valley shooting sports and talk to a guy called Rob. Thanks for the info.

 

[cgrutt]

Thanks for clarifying. No need to get all pissy it was just a little question. Its the first gun i have ever bought so im not 100% sure on what can and cannot be on my gun. I'll check out PL 265. Im not shitposting I was actually told that by my local FFL if you dont believe me call hudson valley shooting sports and talk to a guy called Rob. Thanks for the info.

Not being pissy but we've had our fair share of BS posts here. Pistol grip on semi auto shotgun is good to go if you don't have any other "evil" features on it. In your case no forward grip. If the shotgun only has 5 rounds or less you can have whatever you want on it.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Thanks for clarifying. No need to get all pissy it was just a little question. Its the first gun i have ever bought so im not 100% sure on what can and cannot be on my gun. I'll check out PL 265. Im not shitposting I was actually told that by my local FFL if you dont believe me call hudson valley shooting sports and talk to a guy called Rob. Thanks for the info.

if you ask 20 different FFL you'll get 100 different answers not even the asswhipes that drafted these regulations and made up mandates could make heads or tales of them and a BIG

 

[Potatorack]

Not being pissy but we've had our fair share of BS posts here. Pistol grip on semi auto shotgun is good to go if you don't have any other "evil" features on it. In your case no forward grip. If the shotgun only has 5 rounds or less you can have whatever you want on it.

Okay cool. Thanks for the answer. I'll keep my shotty at 4+1 so I can have all the attachments to piss off cuomo and my local subdivision of moms demand incoherent bullshit.

 

[Potatorack]

if you ask 20 different FFL you'll get 100 different answers not even the asswhipes that drafted these regulations and made up mandates could make heads or tales of them and a BIG

I guess I'll just have a printed copy of the stated exemptions for 5 round shotguns with me when I go to the range so I dont get arrested.

 

[cgrutt]

Okay cool. Thanks for the answer. I'll keep my shotty at 4+1 so I can have all the attachments to piss off cuomo and my local subdivision of moms demand incoherent bullshit.

5+1 LOL

 

[Acer-m14]

@Potatorack in case you didn't know .. when the Safe act came FUAC forgot about exempting LEO's LMAO ..

just because they have power n wealth .. = they have no smarts ..

 

[Potatorack]

5+1 LOL

Much better. I can make the gun even more sp00ky to cuomo and his anti gun cronies by adding another shell. So sp00ky.

 

[Potatorack]

@Potatorack in case you didn't know .. when the Safe act came FUAC forgot about exempting LEO's LMAO ..

just because they have power n wealth .. = they have no smarts ..

LOL what a dumbass. How did everyone who was voting on the bill miss that when it was up for debate in the senate? Cant wait to cuomo to get his ass thrown out of the governor position.

 

[cgrutt]

IMO a Benelli M4 or Mossberg 930 is the best you can do within NYS. Semi auto, pistol grip, 7 round tube and you can load up to 9 rounds with ghost loading on carrier plate (7+1+1). Your opinion may vary, LOL...

 

[cgrutt]

LOL what a dumbass. How did everyone who was voting on the bill miss that when it was up for debate in the senate? Cant wait to cuomo to get his ass thrown out of the governor position.

Sad fact of the matter is nobody read it. It was never up for debate. Called as a "Message of Necessity" during the middle of the night and rammed down our throats. Much the same as renaming the Tappan Zee Bridge after monkey face's father... FUAC.

 

[Acer-m14]

@Potatorack ... my new toy

 

[Acer-m14]

IMO a Benelli M4 or Mossberg 590 is the best you can do within NYS. Semi auto, pistol grip, 7 round tube and you can load up to 9 rounds with ghost loading on carrier plate (7+1+1). Your opinion may vary, LOL...

semis are nice .. but that sound of a Moss 500 pump .. 24/25 on skeet with it .. it racks fast ..

 

[cgrutt]

semis are nice .. but that sound of a Moss 500 pump .. 24/25 on skeet with it .. it racks fast ..

 

[Potatorack]

LOL okay Biden. I was in Kentucky last week and I went to a gun range the AR15 was so easy to use. Harder to aim my ass the red dot barely moved at all little recoil. Harder to use? All you do is pull the fucking trigger and reset it same as any other gun and have a good shooting stance.

 

[Acer-m14]

LOL ... but i not him and just stick it in a window and make noise .. i'll hit your ass

 

[GOYABEAN]

I guess I'll just have a printed copy of the stated exemptions for 5 round shotguns with me when I go to the range so I dont get arrested.

wouldn't worry about it too much after all it's for the children

 

[Potatorack]

wouldn't worry about it too much after all it's for the children

Oh GOD FODBID I forget to think about the children. I might as well turn my gun in to local PD now. Also I should donate my car and shred my drivers license because I should think of "the children" I might hit one by accident some day so i'll take pre emptive measures by walking to work from now on.

 

[MadScientist]

No.I have zero LEO exemptions. And its not easy to say or do. Your government is denying you of your basic human rights . What you do is up to you. You can roll over like most people do , OR you can give a great big fuck you to the Narcissistic, egotistical communist bastard that thinks he owns the people in the state. You don't have to have ask anyone about how you should defend yourself. What good is the law when its been corrupted? You know right and wrong. The thing is, are you willing to stick your head in the fucking guillotine ? Are you willing to sacrifice for what you believe is right? I know, we have jobs, familys, homes . Everybody wants somebody else to step up to plate , But that's not gonna happen. its just us. Me and you . We are going to make a difference or were not. Go along with the program or don't. What good are people when they are law abiding to a corrupt law? what kind of men do that?

People are worried if a fucking hand grip is illegal , Just how fucking pathetic is that? Stay on one side of the fence or the other, What are you going to do when they eventually ban guns altogether? Your going to turn them over because you have to much to lose. If you don't make a stand now, you will never make a stand . .When the British attempted to size the guns at Concord, the colonists didn't take them to court , they didn't sue , they shot them fucking dead . That's how history deals with tyrants. Or they hang them from the fucking lampposts.


The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in times of crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
-Thomas Paine

Thomas Jefferson argued that "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

You fear the government Arresting you for a weapons violation. by definition you are living under tyranny right now. Its time to wake up .

Fuck man, you got me all riled up. When you giving a “Calling all NY gun owners” speech? Throw it on YouTube or something

 

[Doc8404]

IMO a Benelli M4 or Mossberg 590 is the best you can do within NYS. Semi auto, pistol grip, 7 round tube and you can load up to 9 rounds with ghost loading on carrier plate (7+1+1). Your opinion may vary, LOL...

isn't the 590 a pump?
i know mine is.

 

[spat]

LOL what a dumbass. How did everyone who was voting on the bill miss that when it was up for debate in the senate? Cant wait to cuomo to get his ass thrown out of the governor position.

What debate ?

They literally passed it in the middle of the night.