Finally got sime time to post this! I expended about 1,100 rounds over 4 hours at the indoor range in Altoona. I have not burned through that much ammo in one session in a very long time, though I was quite fatigued afterwards. One caveat, yes I know my shoiting sucks. I'm working on it, before I moved to PA and after SAFE I hardly shot at all but I'm getting little better every outing. I think it was a mistake to do the pictures last as I was pretty tired by the end.
Anyways, here is the initial setup:
Got the 10/22, DD AR, PPQ and Shield laid out, mags loaded. I have a pair of BX-25s for the Ruger under the shelf. All shooting was done standing, 7 yards for pistols 25 yards (Max distance of range) for rifles.
I started with the PPQ, since I was so excited to have it after waiting a month.
This is with 124gr Fiocchi FMJ. I also ran 100 rounds of HST 124gr +p and standard through each pistol. Group sizes were about the same given my ability. I took 5 shots at each bullseye excepting #1 where I got a bit carried away and put in 8 or so.
The PPQ lives up to the hype, its is an excellent pistol with an excellent trigger that feels great in the hand. It is light for a pisrol its size and combined withbthe higher bore axis it is a little flippy but it points so naturally that it readily returns to point of aim after each shot. This combined with the light crisp trigger and mouse click short reset means the PPQ can be shot very quickly without a drop in precision. These groups were done in pretty rapid fire. With practice I am sure I van get those groups down quite a bit. Funcrion was flawless without a single hiccup start to finish, except for one issue with a magazine. I had purchased 4 additional mags along with the gun. Theae were Mecgar 17 rounders. One of these had an issue with the follower spring binding at the bottom of the mag. I disassembled it twice in an attempt to get it to run but to no avail. However I simply brought it to the counter up front where they immediately replaced, no questions asked, it with another and I had no further mag issuses at all. Excellent service I think. Also, I had read that some folks find the mag release button to be light and some have experienced unintended magazine drops. I did not find this to be the case at all, atbno point did I drop a mag when not intended nor did I have issue with the action of the mag release. The slide release is well done, easy to actuate but never in the way. The one (slight) negative was the sights. I don't mind that theybare polymer and the windage adjustment at the rear sight is nice (the were bang on out the box for me) but there is too much daylight between the front post and rear notch for my liking. I found aiming tonbe a little fiddlier than ot should have been. Overall though just an outstanding gun, I like it better than the P226 Legion I traded for it (along with the Shield).
Next I shot the Shield, again using Fiocchi 124gr FMJ and 100 124gr HSTs both +P and standard.
Clearly I need to work with the Shield some more. As you can see POI is to the left a good bit. I took 7 shots at these bullseyes.
I did experience a few malfunctions with the Shields at first, mostly FTFs, but after a few magazines I had no further mechanical issues. However I did have a recurring problem with not lettkng the trigger out far enough tonhit the reset. I think I didnthe Shield a disservice by shooting the PPQ first. There is no comparison between the two shooting wise as one might expect. I liked the Shield but the best part of the S&W pistol is in the holster where it disappears under a T shirt for me. I found it pretty flippy and though controllable I wouldn't say I enjoyed shooting it, not compared tonthe PPQ anyway. In fact the last few mags I found to be a bit of a chore. But the Shield is a small concealment gun not a range toy so I don't hold that against it. I found the sights adequate and I liked the sight picture better than the PPQs, though the short sight rasius makes it harder to line up. Also with the +Ps i found the muzzle flash to be extreme, I think I sunburned my face (flashburned?)! And I noticed the ejection pattern is up andnstraight back into my face, I caught a piece of hot brass that wedged between my shooting glasses and my eyebrow, which was less than pleasent. Still an excellent CCW, I just need more practice with it. And Inshould mention that while very stiff out of the box the slide release and recoil spring loosened up nicely after this session.
Next the Daniels Defense.
Now, my excuse for theae groups is that this was my last bit of shooting, my hands hurt a little, my arms were tired and I was getting overheated. #3 was the very last string of the day and you can see I rushed it. As for the rifle itself.... It freaking rocks! Pure and simple it is an absolutely amazing rifle. Here are the paticulars. 16" gov't profile cold hammer forged barrel, chrome lined. 15" keymod rail. Upper and lower are forged 7075 pieces, carpenter steel bolt, staked gas key, staked castle nut on the milspec buffer tube, yadda yadda. It has everything on "the list" and then some. If you hate "the list" it is still a nice rifle. have put about 1k rounds through it since I picked it up back in march and I have not had one single malfunction of any sort. I had a small issue with the hand guard loosening and since neithet I nor my LGS guy had DD's proprietary barrel nut wrench I sent it back to Daniels Defense to have it fixed, and tonmake sure everything on the rifle was in spec. Customer service was outstanding, both with communication and turnaround. They even sent it back with a complimentary Daniels Defense mag, which is a 32 rounder. Why 32 I have no idea. I haven't done much to it, nor do Intended to. I replaced the standard charging handle with a Raptor ambi handle. I like it it is very comfortable to use. I also dot a vickers tactical 2 point sling for it and I like the sling just fine to. I got the version with the QD slings already in the sling so attaching it tonthe rifle was very easy. The Rifle has anti rotation QD mounts at the rear of the handguard and the rear of the stock on either side. There is also a QD mount at the rear of the reciever for a single point sling. The trigger is nothing special, I have heard it described as "GI spec" but I swear the trigger one the M16A2s I was issued were a fair bit heavier. That was years ago though, maybe I'm miss remembering. Anyway, fine rifle, love it.
I didn't do a whole lot ofnshooting with the 10/22, just enough to find out the BX-25 mags are reliable. Like the standard mags the BX-25s are a bitch to load, only more so. They work great though.
Those are 25 round groups, done at mag dump speed, literally, near about as fast as I could pull the trigger. Go .22.
The rifle itslef is very basic, just added a houge overmolded stock, which Inlike very much, and a cheap Bushnell Banner 3x9. I think it was intended as a muzzle loader scope. The recricle has a small circle just around the center of the cross hair that makes it pretty good for fast plinking. And it was fairly cheap. So, Ruger 10/22. Its a .22, want a semiauto .22? The 10/22 is a fantabulous choice, we all know that.
Done, my fingers hurt now. Long posts on a cell phone suck!
Anyways, here is the initial setup:
Got the 10/22, DD AR, PPQ and Shield laid out, mags loaded. I have a pair of BX-25s for the Ruger under the shelf. All shooting was done standing, 7 yards for pistols 25 yards (Max distance of range) for rifles.
I started with the PPQ, since I was so excited to have it after waiting a month.
This is with 124gr Fiocchi FMJ. I also ran 100 rounds of HST 124gr +p and standard through each pistol. Group sizes were about the same given my ability. I took 5 shots at each bullseye excepting #1 where I got a bit carried away and put in 8 or so.
The PPQ lives up to the hype, its is an excellent pistol with an excellent trigger that feels great in the hand. It is light for a pisrol its size and combined withbthe higher bore axis it is a little flippy but it points so naturally that it readily returns to point of aim after each shot. This combined with the light crisp trigger and mouse click short reset means the PPQ can be shot very quickly without a drop in precision. These groups were done in pretty rapid fire. With practice I am sure I van get those groups down quite a bit. Funcrion was flawless without a single hiccup start to finish, except for one issue with a magazine. I had purchased 4 additional mags along with the gun. Theae were Mecgar 17 rounders. One of these had an issue with the follower spring binding at the bottom of the mag. I disassembled it twice in an attempt to get it to run but to no avail. However I simply brought it to the counter up front where they immediately replaced, no questions asked, it with another and I had no further mag issuses at all. Excellent service I think. Also, I had read that some folks find the mag release button to be light and some have experienced unintended magazine drops. I did not find this to be the case at all, atbno point did I drop a mag when not intended nor did I have issue with the action of the mag release. The slide release is well done, easy to actuate but never in the way. The one (slight) negative was the sights. I don't mind that theybare polymer and the windage adjustment at the rear sight is nice (the were bang on out the box for me) but there is too much daylight between the front post and rear notch for my liking. I found aiming tonbe a little fiddlier than ot should have been. Overall though just an outstanding gun, I like it better than the P226 Legion I traded for it (along with the Shield).
Next I shot the Shield, again using Fiocchi 124gr FMJ and 100 124gr HSTs both +P and standard.
Clearly I need to work with the Shield some more. As you can see POI is to the left a good bit. I took 7 shots at these bullseyes.
I did experience a few malfunctions with the Shields at first, mostly FTFs, but after a few magazines I had no further mechanical issues. However I did have a recurring problem with not lettkng the trigger out far enough tonhit the reset. I think I didnthe Shield a disservice by shooting the PPQ first. There is no comparison between the two shooting wise as one might expect. I liked the Shield but the best part of the S&W pistol is in the holster where it disappears under a T shirt for me. I found it pretty flippy and though controllable I wouldn't say I enjoyed shooting it, not compared tonthe PPQ anyway. In fact the last few mags I found to be a bit of a chore. But the Shield is a small concealment gun not a range toy so I don't hold that against it. I found the sights adequate and I liked the sight picture better than the PPQs, though the short sight rasius makes it harder to line up. Also with the +Ps i found the muzzle flash to be extreme, I think I sunburned my face (flashburned?)! And I noticed the ejection pattern is up andnstraight back into my face, I caught a piece of hot brass that wedged between my shooting glasses and my eyebrow, which was less than pleasent. Still an excellent CCW, I just need more practice with it. And Inshould mention that while very stiff out of the box the slide release and recoil spring loosened up nicely after this session.
Next the Daniels Defense.
Now, my excuse for theae groups is that this was my last bit of shooting, my hands hurt a little, my arms were tired and I was getting overheated. #3 was the very last string of the day and you can see I rushed it. As for the rifle itself.... It freaking rocks! Pure and simple it is an absolutely amazing rifle. Here are the paticulars. 16" gov't profile cold hammer forged barrel, chrome lined. 15" keymod rail. Upper and lower are forged 7075 pieces, carpenter steel bolt, staked gas key, staked castle nut on the milspec buffer tube, yadda yadda. It has everything on "the list" and then some. If you hate "the list" it is still a nice rifle. have put about 1k rounds through it since I picked it up back in march and I have not had one single malfunction of any sort. I had a small issue with the hand guard loosening and since neithet I nor my LGS guy had DD's proprietary barrel nut wrench I sent it back to Daniels Defense to have it fixed, and tonmake sure everything on the rifle was in spec. Customer service was outstanding, both with communication and turnaround. They even sent it back with a complimentary Daniels Defense mag, which is a 32 rounder. Why 32 I have no idea. I haven't done much to it, nor do Intended to. I replaced the standard charging handle with a Raptor ambi handle. I like it it is very comfortable to use. I also dot a vickers tactical 2 point sling for it and I like the sling just fine to. I got the version with the QD slings already in the sling so attaching it tonthe rifle was very easy. The Rifle has anti rotation QD mounts at the rear of the handguard and the rear of the stock on either side. There is also a QD mount at the rear of the reciever for a single point sling. The trigger is nothing special, I have heard it described as "GI spec" but I swear the trigger one the M16A2s I was issued were a fair bit heavier. That was years ago though, maybe I'm miss remembering. Anyway, fine rifle, love it.
I didn't do a whole lot ofnshooting with the 10/22, just enough to find out the BX-25 mags are reliable. Like the standard mags the BX-25s are a bitch to load, only more so. They work great though.
Those are 25 round groups, done at mag dump speed, literally, near about as fast as I could pull the trigger. Go .22.
The rifle itslef is very basic, just added a houge overmolded stock, which Inlike very much, and a cheap Bushnell Banner 3x9. I think it was intended as a muzzle loader scope. The recricle has a small circle just around the center of the cross hair that makes it pretty good for fast plinking. And it was fairly cheap. So, Ruger 10/22. Its a .22, want a semiauto .22? The 10/22 is a fantabulous choice, we all know that.
Done, my fingers hurt now. Long posts on a cell phone suck!
And yeah, that DD is a great rifle, super smooth, Maybe next time I'll put it in a rest to see what it can really do!
