Remington 1100 year ID

[FrankenCub]

So I'm kinda confused on dating these. Looks like there's more letters than I see on the net.
Anyone know more than me?
The first picture looks like WKRO

 

[Defilade]

May not be the original barrel?

Remington 1100, 1100, Remington 1100 serial numbers, semi-auto, 12 guage, 20 guage, values, prices, shotgun

Remington 1100, 1100, Remington 1100 serial numbers, semi-auto, 12 guage, 20 guage, values, prices, shotgun, serial numbers

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[FrankenCub]

Yeah I dont know. I seen that the x in the second picture designates it as 20g heavy frame but then got lost on the date code on the barrel.
Didn't find anything that has any date info for the serial on the frame.

 

[FP1201]

The Barrel doesn't date the gun nor have date codes, inspector or maybe the employee's mark.
Remington uses "BLACKPOWDERX" to identify the year according to the serial number references in the back of the Blue Book of Gun Values.

 

[FrankenCub]

The Barrel doesn't date the gun nor have date codes, inspector or maybe the employee's mark.
Remington uses "BLACKPOWDERX" to identify the year according to the serial number references in the back of the Blue Book of Gun Values.

Everything I seen on the net stated they had a date code on the left side of the barrel by the frame.
I did include a picture of the serial number, if anyone has access to this Blue Book.

 

[byron]

Here the first (LH) mark is the final inspector mark, the O represents July, the R would be 1968. And the F again being an assembly number.

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JAN​	FEB​	MAR​	APR​	MAY​	JUN​	JUL​	AUG​	SEP​	OCT​	NOV​	DEC​
B​	L​	A​	C​	K​	P​	O​	W​	D​	E​	R​	X​

1920 = L	1930 = Y	1940 = J	1950 = WW
1921 = M	1931 = Z	1941 = K	1951 = XX
1922 = N	1932 = A	1942 = L	1952 = YY
1923 = P	1933 = B	1943 = MM	1953 = ZZ
1924 = R	1934 = C	1944 = NN	1954 = A (JAN. AA)
1925 = S	1935 = D	1945 = PP	1955 = B
1926 = T	1936 = E	1946 = RR	1956 = C
1927 = V	1937 = F	1947 = SS	1957 = D
1928 = W	1938 = G	1948 = TT	1958 = E
1929 = X	1939 = H	1949 = UU	1959 = F

1960 = G	1970 = T	1980 = A	1990 = K
1961 = H	1971 = U	1981 = B	1991 = L
1962 = J	1972 = W	1982 = C	1992 = M
1963 = K	1973 = X	1983 = D	1993 = N
1964 = L	1974 = Y	1984 = E	1994 = O
1965 = M	1975 = Z	1985 = F	1995 = P
1966 = N	1976 = I	1986 = G	1996 = Q
1967 = P	1977 = O	1987 = H	1997 = R
1968 = R	1978 = Q	1988 = I	1998 = S
1969 = S	1979 = V	1989 = J	*1999 = T

 

[FrankenCub]

I've been looking at every site I can find including the Remington Society, looking at every marking Remington used. I took a better picture of that mark and it's definitely WKRO.
I see that it should be a 2 letter code.
If I use the first 2 it should be Aug '63.
Why 2 more letters, I don't see anything documented.

 

[byron]

may of 97 look at my other post first letter w final inspector, last number o assemble number two center letters month and year

 

[FP1201]

Everything I seen on the net stated they had a date code on the left side of the barrel by the frame.
I did include a picture of the serial number, if anyone has access to this Blue Book.

[t would seem that I'm wrong. does that chart apply to Rifles as well as shotguns? The Rifle in the picture looks like a 740/742/7400 and barrels for those don't exactly get changed the way Shotguns do.

 

[FrankenCub]

may of 97 look at my other post first letter w final inspector, last number o assemble number two center letters month and year

Oh ok I didn't catch that, didn't see it on the Remington Society site either. Unless I missed it

 

[FrankenCub]

[t would seem that I'm wrong. does that chart apply to Rifles as well as shotguns? The Rifle in the picture looks like a 740/742/7400 and barrels for those don't exactly get changed the way Shotguns do.

According to the Remington Society, it's all Remington firearms.

Manufacture Dates | Remington Society of America

 

[byron]

Oh ok I didn't catch that, didn't see it on the Remington Society site either. Unless I missed it

I have blue book and looked it up in there also but that does not explain the other numbers either

 

[FrankenCub]

I have blue book and looked it up in there also but that does not explain the other numbers either

I think I missed it because after reading different sites I took the final inspector mark as something other than a letter. But being 4 marks (letters) makes sense.
This was a friend's shotty, I got it when he passed. He wasn't known to own newish firearms, everything he owned was old due to values.
Wonder if he didnt realize this was as new as it appears, or the barrel was changed at some point.
Also noticed they said the date code on rifles is reliable as they rarely changed barrels on rifles. Shotguns is unreliable as barrels were changed frequently.

 

[FP1201]

I pulled out the Blue Book:
"REMINGTON DATE CODE DATA & SXS SHOTGUN SERIALIZATION"

 

[FrankenCub]

I pulled out the Blue Book:
"REMINGTON DATE CODE DATA & SXS SHOTGUN SERIALIZATION"
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That code isn't on the frame however. They should have worded it better. It's on the left side of the barrel.
The serial number on the frame itself doesn't correspond to public data. From everything I've read, Remington can give you a ballpark idea of manufacture date by the serial, but there's no published data. Many people have had no response from Remington.

 

[FP1201]

That code isn't on the frame however. They should have worded it better. It's on the left side of the barrel.
The serial number on the frame itself doesn't correspond to public data. From everything I've read, Remington can give you a ballpark idea of manufacture date by the serial, but there's no published data. Many people have had no response from Remington.

Since "Remington" went under, assets sold, and re-opened as "Rem-Arms" they will have NOTHING to do with the previous company; They don't want sell you parts, make repairs, or entertain questions about the former company. All my connections there have left the area and I haven't set foot in >three years, likely won't.

 

[FP1201]

WKRO
W (8)
K (5)
R (11) or 1968 or repeating again in 1997
O 1977 or again in 1994
So, in guessing I'd say 8 May 1968 if it's an older 1100 if you omit the "O". Outside curiosity, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference.
clear as mud.