Restrictions Letter

[chris1977]

Ok so I finally got around to making some small changes @Bullet Guy had suggested as well as others who said to dumb it down, so to speak. Should I add in my permit number for him to easily look it up?

My name is Chris and I have been a resident in Clinton County my whole life. I am writing this letter to request a release from all restrictions on my New York State, Clinton County, Pistol License from the Sportsman Pistol License I currently possess.

I belong to a local gun range located in the town I reside. I am an avid hunter and shooter at the range. I was a volunteer firefighter with the Chazy Volunteer Fire Department..

I served in the Army and was honorably discharged in 2005. I was assigned to the 962nd Ord. Co. in Plattsburgh.

In my line of work I mostly work at a desk in the Emergency Department as a clerk.

I believe if you are going to be a responsible firearms owner that you must practice to develop good safety habits and the skills with which to be competent. To achieve this I regularly attend the range that I belong to and always have firearms and ammunition safely locked in separate places.

Because of my training and competency and my firm belief that I am of good moral and ethical character, I would like to respectfully request I be considered for unrestricted carry in Clinton County and NYS.





Thank you for your consideration,

 

[masterswimmer]

That's a world of difference and infinitely better. Personally I'd still make a few changes but that would be me being anal about grammar and the flow of content.

Much better, good luck.

 

[Harry Hood]

Better, I would include something about Article 35 in your letter somewhere, and I would put in like you have stated before, you do not intend to carry every day, but do not want to violate your restrictions.

 

[stuck in ny]

how about "Muh g*ddamn-given rats as a citizen of these United States of 'murica "?

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Looks good. Polish the grammet etc.

Submit.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Fwiw in my county the judge throws out any request that talks about any extra BS other than gun/restrictions.

Undisclosed Inside source.

 

[cgrutt]

Pretty much agree with what everybody said and would also suggest adding comment about training and Art. 35. With all due respect, military training and carrying as a civilian for self defense are completely different animals. Judge is going to want to know you know the rules for use of force within NYS and train accordingly. Everything else is moot.

(BTW, I had my restrictions lifted and have been through this process.)

 

[chris1977]

Ok some slight modifications. Also the last sentence of the third paragraph I am not sure it is worded appropriately.

My name is Chris and I have been a resident in Clinton County my whole life. I am writing this letter to request a release from all restrictions on my New York State, Clinton County, Pistol License from the Sportsman Pistol License I currently possess.

I have been working at the hospital in the Emergency Department for the past 8 years. I served in the Army and was honorably discharged in 2005. During my time of service I was assigned to the 962nd Ord. Co. in Plattsburgh. I was also a volunteer firefighter with the Chazy Volunteer Fire Department..

I belong to a local gun range located in the town I reside. I believe if you are going to be a responsible firearms owner that you must practice to develop good safety habits and the skills with which to be competent. To achieve this I regularly attend the range that I belong to and always have firearms and ammunition safely locked in separate places. I am also aware of Article 35, and have been reading, in regards to what is appropriate defense. I do not plan to carry every day. I just don't want to take the chance I of violating the restriction of my permit.

Because of my training and competency and my firm belief that I am of good moral and ethical character, I would like to respectfully request I be considered for unrestricted carry in Clinton County and NYS.





Thank you for your consideration,

 

[DoD1776]

If they deny this is there a cool down time till you can apply again? Best of luck!

 

[chris1977]

In regards to training would it be in my interest to state that I am currently looking into receiving carry training?

 

[chris1977]

Not that I am aware of. From what I have been told, by someone who was approved and has zero training, they are being approved after a letter of request is sent.

 

[cgrutt]

If you are really looking for carry training I would get it first and submit letter saying that you just received it. I also wouldn't say that you are reading about Article 35, just state you understand it and will abide by it. Short and sweet. BTW, how long have you had a restricted permit? Might make sense to state that you have had restricted permit for X years...

 

[chris1977]

I have had my permit for just over a week. While I was at my interview I had inquired about the restrictions and was told since they were listed they were going to be put on. I was also informed that as soon as I get it to submit a letter and he would be removing them.

 

[cgrutt]

If that's the case I'm sure you have nothing to worry about. Good luck.

 

[chris1977]

Thanks I really hope all of the info is true. Just knowing that I can carry is what I wanting. The odds that I will any time soon are very slim. I want to be 100% comfortable with my firearm that I intend to carry.

 

[I shoot from da hip]

maybe include a headshot with an old wild west theme...wanted poster style...couldn't hurt, could it?

 

[Harry Hood]

Like @cgrutt said, I would take the training before submitting the letter and include the training completion form. I took a RPD CC101 class and included a copy of my training certificate with my letter. In the class Article 35 was discussed at length, I truly believe the judge wants to see your understanding of the law. It also shows that you are different than the general public since you have additional training. I don't think a judge cares much about the fact that you received marksmanship training in the military, many people have been in the military but that doesn't make them safe to carry a firearm in the civilian world.

 

[cgrutt]

I also took an RPD class, UCPT, Rochester Personal Defense, LLC Good class. I live on other side of state and drove out to Binghamton area when it was offered near there. Well worth it IMO. Of course, I'm a big fan of MDTS and I'm sure any of Fry's classes would be good as well.

 

[Harry Hood]

@cgrutt that is the class I took as well, I though it was called Concealed Carry 101, but it is UCPT class.

 

[chris1977]

Wondering if the NRA online course would be beneficial.

 

[cgrutt]

Wondering if the NRA online course would be beneficial.

I suppose any training is better than none but I would think a judge would really prefer seeing specific training covering NY Use of Force as well as live fire. You're not going to get either of these with an NRA online course.

 

[chris1977]

So far the nearest I have found is 4 hours away from me.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Ok some slight modifications. Also the last sentence of the third paragraph I am not sure it is worded appropriately.

My name is Chris and I have been a resident in Clinton County my whole life. I am writing this letter to request a release from all restrictions on my New York State, Clinton County, Pistol License from the Sportsman Pistol License I currently possess.

I have been working at the hospital in the Emergency Department for the past 8 years. I served in the Army and was honorably discharged in 2005. During my time of service I was assigned to the 962nd Ord. Co. in Plattsburgh. I was also a volunteer firefighter with the Chazy Volunteer Fire Department.. (this does not matter. leave off. short and to the point. your job does not require you to carry so it is not helpful, so leave it out. former military service doesnot really add weight either......you could have been a paper filer....or suffer from bad PTSD.....maybe if you were an MP, or a firearms instructor etc etc , this would be helpful.....again, it really has nothing to do with lifting restrictions. )

I belong to a local gun range located in the town I reside. I believe if you are going to be a responsible firearms owner that you must practice to develop good safety habits and the skills with which to be competent. To achieve this I regularly attend the range that I belong to and always have firearms and ammunition safely locked in separate places. I am also aware of Article 35.

, and have been reading, in regards to what is appropriate defense. I do not plan to carry every day. I just don't want to take the chance I of violating the restriction of my permit. makes no sense, and is not needed. it only opens up a door you dont want opened (you are basically admitting to contemplating carrying even being restricted.) .

Because of my training and competency and my firm belief that I am of good moral and ethical character, I would like to respectfully request I be considered for unrestricted carry. (period) in Clinton County and NYS.

Thank you for your consideration,

the above is quoted from chris (my explanations are in blue).

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leave out the above part in red.

when and how much you carry it not the issue. stick to the issue.

ie: training. practice. understading NY law. etc etc. that is all.

just submit it. say you have read and understand article 35 (read it!) you are proficient with guns. you practice. you are a law abiding citizen.

 

[chris1977]

Ok some slight modifications. Also the last sentence of the third paragraph I am not sure it is worded appropriately.

My name is Chris and I have been a resident in Clinton County my whole life. I am writing this letter to request a release from all restrictions on my New York State, Clinton County, Pistol License from the Sportsman Pistol License I currently possess.

I have been working at the hospital in the Emergency Department for the past 8 years. I served in the Army and was honorably discharged in 2005. During my time of service I was assigned to the 962nd Ord. Co. in Plattsburgh. I was also a volunteer firefighter with the Chazy Volunteer Fire Department.. (this does not matter. leave off. short and to the point. your job does not require you to carry so it is not helpful, so leave it out. former military service doesnot really add weight either......you could have been a paper filer....or suffer from bad PTSD.....maybe if you were an MP, or a firearms instructor etc etc , this would be helpful.....again, it really has nothing to do with lifting restrictions. )

I belong to a local gun range located in the town I reside. I believe if you are going to be a responsible firearms owner that you must practice to develop good safety habits and the skills with which to be competent. To achieve this I regularly attend the range that I belong to and always have firearms and ammunition safely locked in separate places. I am also aware of Article 35.

, and have been reading, in regards to what is appropriate defense. I do not plan to carry every day. I just don't want to take the chance I of violating the restriction of my permit. makes no sense, and is not needed. it only opens up a door you dont want opened (you are basically admitting to contemplating carrying even being restricted.) .

Because of my training and competency and my firm belief that I am of good moral and ethical character, I would like to respectfully request I be considered for unrestricted carry. (period) in Clinton County and NYS.

Thank you for your consideration,

the above is quoted from chris (my explanations are in blue).

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

leave out the above part in red.

when and how much you carry it not the issue. stick to the issue.

ie: training. practice. understading NY law. etc etc. that is all.

just submit it. say you have read and understand article 35 (read it!) you are proficient with guns. you practice. you are a law abiding citizen.

That is what I am running with. Worst that can happen is be denied. Not the end of the world. Try again later if so!

 

[Eddie Gunks]

That is what I am running with. Worst that can happen is be denied. Not the end of the world. Try again later if so!

you wont be denied.

 

[gqllc007]

My wife merely took the course here in Rensselaer County at the local range. She requested her restrictions be removed as she satisfactorily completed the course. Restrictions were removed. We submitted the certification with the request. No other information

 

[chris1977]

In looking up the mailing address I see they list an email address as well. Could I just email it or should a hard copy be sent?

 

[4excal]

Not a single Judge on the bench cares about any of us personally. (No offense).
Good luck

I know Two in my county that do. One comes to my place of work often to shoot the shit and brings me PBA cards and his personal card with hand written, addressed to me little kind words, and comes to my gun club all the time. The other judge remembers my birthday every year and pops in my job to ask about my kids and life quite frequently. Not all judges are the mean, scary, cold hearted pink Floyd The Wall judges, nor should they be generalized with "not a single judge on the bench" statement about them My County judges are both amazing men.

 

[4excal]

Also, for those of you that don't think the "carry money to and fro bank" line works..that's how I got mine full carry back in the day.

 

[GOPerfect]

I know Two in my county that do. One comes to my place of work often to shoot the shit and brings me PBA cards and his personal card with hand written, addressed to me little kind words, and comes to my gun club all the time. The other judge remembers my birthday every year and pops in my job to ask about my kids and life quite frequently. Not all judges are the mean, scary, cold hearted pink Floyd The Wall judges, nor should they be generalized with "not a single judge on the bench" statement about them My County judges are both amazing men.

Picked up what you put down.

I was only referring to the "Upgrade Letter". I know a few Judges, the ones that I know personally, like yours, are good people as well.