RFK Jr. to announce independent 2024 run

[lrick]

I am having real issues with the whole primary process. Both Trump and Biden refuse to debate any one. I guess policy debates and testing one's skills in an arena is useless? So the primary is basically being decided by polls? We are being told it is a Biden/Trump rematch whether we like to or not.? While RFK was shut out altogether from the DNC, Trump is essentially being corronated by the RNC. On top of it all- most Americans polled DONT WANT TRUMP OR BIDEN! I will bet all my money that Biden and Trump will not even debate each other. So what is this telling us?

Debates used to matter when we actually had to use our minds to hear policy differences and see the character and composure of people on a debate stage. That doesn't matter anymore. It's all emotion. The party leaders and pundits will choose our candidates for us and we don't need to hear policy debates. We are too dumb for that.

Biden V Trump 2.0 is a joke. We as a nation should be able to do better. And unfortunately we can't. I will vote for RFK out of defiance to the system manipulating the outcome of who can run for president. And I think there are may voters like me who will agree. I despise the DNC for their authoritarian marxist regime that wants to control society and ignore the constitution, and I am sick of the RNC and the cult of personality of Donald Trump. Sick of hearing about "loyalty to Trump" all the time too. Who the hell is Trump? Tony Soprano? I am loyal to NO ONE BUT GOD, FAMILY AND THE CONSTITUTION.

If the goal is to get people to vote against things rather than vote for them and ramp up emotionalism, I'd say they're succeeding...

 

[GOPerfect]

I like this. I really like this. I hope he actually does it.

If Trump does not get the nomination, I will be voting for Kennedy.

No doubt about it.

I am very disappointed with the GOP candidates that are running. None of them excite me or motivate me to think things will be better.

Hell, I may support Kennedy over Trump

 

[Defilade]

He won't get Jack shit for media attention. If he remains under the DNC I think he may receive more exposure. Bad move IMO.

 

[lrick]

 

[maverick52]

I like this. I really like this. I hope he actually does it.

If Trump does not get the nomination, I will be voting for Kennedy.

No doubt about it.

I am very disappointed with the GOP candidates that are running. None of them excite me or motivate me to think things will be better.

Hell, I may support Kennedy over Trump

Kennedy rocks the boat in a different way. He's the only one honest about the clot shot. Even Trump pushed the vax. IMO the vax is one of the biggest hoaxes in modern history. RFK is NOT afraid to take on the elite globalists. And he is far more educated and clever. This may be the first time I don't vote Republican since Ross Perot.

 

[maverick52]

RFK JR, "“How are we going to win against the established Washington interests?” Mr. Kennedy says in the video. “It’s not through playing the game by the corrupt rules that the corrupt powers and the vested interests have rigged to keep us all in their thrall. Instead, we’re going to have to rewrite the assumptions and change the habits of American politics.”

 

[livingston]

Think Uniparty.

RFKjr is as much an outsider as Trump. The DNC establishment is doing to him just what RNC never-Trumpers did to Trump. But it all pales in comparison to what they are all doing to Trump now.

They don't want to legitimize a primary challenge to an incumbent that is seen as feeble and weak. Many would drop joe because of his age alone. They can't afford to fracture their core support. Nor do they want a challenger that may serve as a repudiation to the agenda that they have furthered through joe.

Newsom is a continuation of that agenda and they really don't want that fully vetted through a primary because they have a growing perception problem. They implemented the steal through blind hatred of Trump alone, but people's perceptions (economy, inflation, war, corruption) are tempering that hatred. At some point people prioritize putting groceries on the table. There's a lot of voter remorse.

So, they are advancing a soft campaign for Newsom to serve as a substitute for joe. Why else is DeSantis going to debate him? Why is he legitimizing him and giving him a stage as part of his own primary campaign? When does that ever happen? The only reason I see for him doing this is getting a cheerleading bump by taking on a dem directly, BUT he is still providing GN access to a national stage. Maybe RDS is reading the tea leaves here expecting GN to be the dem candidate, but it won't do him much good if joe isn't replaced before the primaries. OR again think Uniparty.

In the end RFKjr is a supplement to another steal in the event Trump is the candidate.

What remains to be seen is what happens to the black vote when kamala is denied any heir apparent status.

The author of the treehouse thinks Susan Rice will be the running mate for Newsom

Apr 25, 2023

SUSAN RICE JUMPS SHIP

So there is that.

nygunforum.com

 

[lrick]

The author of the treehouse thinks Susan Rice will be the running mate for Newsom

Apr 25, 2023

SUSAN RICE JUMPS SHIP

So there is that.

nygunforum.com

I had forgotten about Rice. So that answers that. IIRC Sundance also thinks she is a deep state gatekeeper.

Even still, there could be some hard feelings if kamala ascends to POTUS only to be replaced by a white guy.

Some may see it as the establishment rejecting a black female POTUS, despite her incompetency. I suppose Rice is the consolation prize. And probably kamala will endorse them to smooth things over.

Whatever happens, it will be interesting.

 

[Grimscale]

Seems like the DNC is hoping they have more pure-D voters than Trump would have pure-R voters.
They set up RFK as someone who is against all the crap Biden has been peddling in an effort to siphon off the D fence-sitters from voting for Trump.

seems like it's working.

 

[spat]

Seems like the DNC is hoping they have more pure-D voters than Trump would have pure-R voters.
They set up RFK as someone who is against all the crap Biden has been peddling in an effort to siphon off the D fence-sitters from voting for Trump.

seems like it's working.

RFK is going to be someone's Perot, the question is who's.

Unless of course we end up with a Trump Kennedy ticket. Which seems unlikely, but not impossible.

I'm really not sure what that would do. I don't think it would hurt Trump at all, but I think it might not be as good for him as an independent RFK run.

 

[pjzwtl]

RFK will no doubt pull a shit ton of boomer dem votes away from Biden

 

[Willyone]

Although I like much of what RF Jr has to say, I highly doubt he can win as an Independant. As far as I'm concerned if he runs as an Indy, a vote for Jr is most likely a vote wasted. To me it's nothing more than "protest vote". The USA needs a Conservative as president, one that has a pair. I'll vote for whoever the Republican nominee is. And I hope that nominee is Donald J.

 

[RedBreast21]

Well that adds a new angle. Trump/RFK 2024. What a kick in the ass that would be. Double coincidental assassination.

 

[kev74]

This is getting serious. RFK got the Trump tan!!

 

[lrick]

RFKjr running as an independent just serves as another funnel.

Instead of 1 huge 2am ballot dump, we'll just see 2 smaller ones....

 

[livingston]

Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden…​

Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. {Rumble Link Here} Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran as an independent.
Within the interview RFK Jr shares that his private polling reveals he takes more votes from Donald Trump than he does from Joe Biden. Thus, having seeded the background for favorable republican support, running as an independent now becomes the most effective way to stop Trump. WATCH:

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | This Past Weekend W/Theo Von


.
In case you are coming in late to this story, what RFK Jr outlines is exactly what I shared earlier. {Go Deep}
With his son’s wife working for the CIA, the strategic influence operation becomes much easier. The principal doesn’t need to be an active participant in the op in order to benefit the goal. RFK Jr sees his impact against Donald Trump in 2024 as a net positive. There’s the justification in a nutshell.

…”Reset your reference point to the baseline where the intelligence operatives do not want you to be. When someone starts asking the question about RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden, stop them immediately. Joe Biden will not be the nominee. With Gavin Newsom as the DNC candidate coming out of Chicago, what does RFK Jr. do to THAT contest with Trump? That’s the question.
You all know the answer.
This is an op.” (more)
This is all about stopping Donald Trump.

Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden... - The Last Refuge

Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. {Rumble Link Here} Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran...

theconservativetreehouse.com

​

 

[RedBreast21]

Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden…​

Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. {Rumble Link Here} Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran as an independent.
Within the interview RFK Jr shares that his private polling reveals he takes more votes from Donald Trump than he does from Joe Biden. Thus, having seeded the background for favorable republican support, running as an independent now becomes the most effective way to stop Trump. WATCH:

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | This Past Weekend W/Theo Von


.
In case you are coming in late to this story, what RFK Jr outlines is exactly what I shared earlier. {Go Deep}
With his son’s wife working for the CIA, the strategic influence operation becomes much easier. The principal doesn’t need to be an active participant in the op in order to benefit the goal. RFK Jr sees his impact against Donald Trump in 2024 as a net positive. There’s the justification in a nutshell.

…”Reset your reference point to the baseline where the intelligence operatives do not want you to be. When someone starts asking the question about RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden, stop them immediately. Joe Biden will not be the nominee. With Gavin Newsom as the DNC candidate coming out of Chicago, what does RFK Jr. do to THAT contest with Trump? That’s the question.
You all know the answer.
This is an op.” (more)
This is all about stopping Donald Trump.

Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden... - The Last Refuge

Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. {Rumble Link Here} Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran...

theconservativetreehouse.com

​

Likely true. Independent voters would vote RFK over Trump. Right now they'll likely hold their nose and vote Trump. Polling indicates Biden in big trouble with that voting group. RFK's team is banking on the fact that independents now make up the largest voting group in America. But if Trump and RFK teamed up the Washington swamp is done. I think hell has a better chance of freezing over thou.

 

[lrick]

Here we go 1992 all over again.

can't help the feeling we're going to fall for this again

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discusses son Conor’s secret Ukraine military enlistment

RFK Jr., says his son “talked his way” into the Ukraine war unit.

nypost.com

If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Something isn't right here.

 

[masterswimmer]

I think RFK takes as many Briben votes as Trump votes. Not all the Dumbs are hell bent on Briben. There's awareness of the shit the bed economy, the degradation of the country because of the illegals, the corrupt Briben's, and they are just Never Trumpers. Give them the RFK option and you'll see millions of them jump ship to not vote Briben, and hold true to Never Trump. Enter RFK.

 

[Bigfoot]

I think RFK takes as many Briben votes as Trump votes. Not all the Dumbs are hell bent on Briben. There's awareness of the shit the bed economy, the degradation of the country because of the illegals, the corrupt Briben's, and they are just Never Trumpers. Give them the RFK option and you'll see millions of them jump ship to not vote Briben, and hold true to Never Trump. Enter RFK.

I see what you did there... LOL

 

[pjzwtl]

Here we go 1992 all over again.

can't help the feeling we're going to fall for this again

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discusses son Conor’s secret Ukraine military enlistment

RFK Jr., says his son “talked his way” into the Ukraine war unit.

nypost.com

If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em?

If he starts talking about the black helicopters trying to kill him…

 

[tirwin1]

Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden…​

Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. {Rumble Link Here} Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran as an independent.
Within the interview RFK Jr shares that his private polling reveals he takes more votes from Donald Trump than he does from Joe Biden. Thus, having seeded the background for favorable republican support, running as an independent now becomes the most effective way to stop Trump. WATCH:

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | This Past Weekend W/Theo Von


.
In case you are coming in late to this story, what RFK Jr outlines is exactly what I shared earlier. {Go Deep}
With his son’s wife working for the CIA, the strategic influence operation becomes much easier. The principal doesn’t need to be an active participant in the op in order to benefit the goal. RFK Jr sees his impact against Donald Trump in 2024 as a net positive. There’s the justification in a nutshell.

…”Reset your reference point to the baseline where the intelligence operatives do not want you to be. When someone starts asking the question about RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden, stop them immediately. Joe Biden will not be the nominee. With Gavin Newsom as the DNC candidate coming out of Chicago, what does RFK Jr. do to THAT contest with Trump? That’s the question.
You all know the answer.
This is an op.” (more)
This is all about stopping Donald Trump.

Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden... - The Last Refuge

Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. {Rumble Link Here} Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran...

theconservativetreehouse.com

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I like CTH and visit the site daily. But this article doesn't make sense to me. RFK jr is on record that the CIA killed his uncle (JFK) and promoted a book that explicitly said so. (I read the book based on his recommendation and I think it is solid). So why in the hell would RFK get in bed with the CIA? Because his wife's son works for the CIA?

I have no idea who will be on the ticket for either party next year (or even if there will be an election). I think the democrats will pull a fast one at their convention and replace biden with someone else. How the republicans resolve their trump problem remains to be seen.

There supposedly is an old chinese curse "may you live in interesting times." I believe 2024 will definitely be interesting.

 

[Arjuna]

Three-Way? - Kunstler

 

[spat]

I like CTH and visit the site daily. But this article doesn't make sense to me. RFK jr is on record that the CIA killed his uncle (JFK) and promoted a book that explicitly said so. (I read the book based on his recommendation and I think it is solid). So why in the hell would RFK get in bed with the CIA? Because his wife's son works for the CIA?

I have no idea who will be on the ticket for either party next year (or even if there will be an election). I think the democrats will pull a fast one at their convention and replace biden with someone else. How the republicans resolve their trump problem remains to be seen.

There supposedly is an old chinese curse "may you live in interesting times." I believe 2024 will definitely be interesting.

Maybe the CIA killed his uncle, then made him an offer he couldn't refuse ?

 

[Acer-m14]

A Tree killed one of the Kennedys and another one went down in a airplane crash

 

[Vapor]

Well, while anyone is better than Biden,


Rfk is still anit gun, pro choice, and very pro climate change.


Let's not forget all of that.

 

[stokes]

So why in the hell would RFK get in bed with the CIA? Because his wife's son works for the CIA?

Because after killing off half his family he's got no choice?

 

[Grimscale]

I'm looking forward to the democrat primaries. Any chance to vote against the current resident and his whore is a bonus!

 

[Acer-m14]