Road Rage,-Millenial Style

[VietnamEraVet]

This just happened in my town. I don't know if there is more to it, and the victims are lying, but it just goes to show why the need to carry to protect ourselves...

Orchard Park is among the "safest" Buffalo suburbs (ha!), and if this kind of random crap can happen here, it can happen anywhere!

Also, this kid must be a special kind of idiot,- he tries to hide out at a town board meeting in the board room only feet away from the police station, and with the police chief sitting in at the board meeting!

Police: Orchard Park man chased vehicle, used stun gun on occupant - The Buffalo News

 

[Tinman]

Good way to get shot.

 

[HighlandLofts]

Stupid games deserve stupid prizes, just wasn't his day to collect his winnings.

 

[AK68]

I heard that on the radio this morning.
Hiding out at a town board meeting?! WTF?

 

[GOPerfect]

Really, really good way to end up dead.

Use a stun gun on me, you will not be able to get arrested!

So many stupid people out and about!

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Really, really good way to end up dead.

Use a stun gun on me, you will not be able to get arrested!

So many stupid people out and about!

I really suspect that there is more to the story than has been reported. That said, I wonder what others here think about someone trying to use a stun gun against them. Does it qualify as someone trying to use deadly physical force against you, and for you to therefore respond by shooting them?

Seems to me like it might be a bit borderline perhaps?

Anymore, if someone is trying to road rage on me, I'm going to be calling 911 and giving them identifying info; getting my EDC ready, and trying to keep away from them. But if they somehow corner me, and then begin advancing on me, as Paul Harvey used to say: "Stand By For News..."

 

[@thewheels]

There's too much stupid in this on both sides.

If I'm being followed/chased by a person I don't know in a vehicle that I don't recognize, I AM NOT pulling over.
Armed or not, that's not a situation I'm going to insert myself into.
Now If I'm cornered in a parking lot or narrow alley, that's a completely different situation.

 

[Plater1]

Am i a bad person for thinking this is a little funny?

 

[GuyMontag]

That said, I wonder what others here think about someone trying to use a stun gun against them.

First off, I'd drive the rims off my vehicle before being locked into a gunfight with some idiot who's jumped out of his car, but if I can't flee, I'll reload and wait for judgment. Taser fatalities are outliers, but DO happen.

 

[Justincase]

I really suspect that there is more to the story than has been reported. That said, I wonder what others here think about someone trying to use a stun gun against them. Does it qualify as someone trying to use deadly physical force against you, and for you to therefore respond by shooting them?

Seems to me like it might be a bit borderline perhaps?

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I think it would be reasonable to believe that you were in danger of grave personal injury and if I'm not mistaken, that's justification for using deadly force, no?

 

[Saltwater60]

I think it would be reasonable to believe that you were in danger of grave personal injury and if I'm not mistaken, that's justification for using deadly force, no?

I too agree. Also you have no idea what happens after he tases you. Robberies is justifiable and it's more than reasonable to think after tasing you he would harm you more or rob you. I'd shoot if I had too. I agree as stated above call the police and make your weapon accessible, but not visable. Keep driving and don't stop or get Out.

 

[stokes]

Its not a taser,its a stun gun.Big difference.With a stun gun they have to get real close to use it,unless your back is to the wall with no escape,I wouldnt shoot.A taser can be effective from a greater distance,but unless you have your gun in hand you probly aint shooting no one,more likely gonna lose your gun while ya floppin around.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Blimey]

There's too much stupid in this on both sides.

If I'm being followed/chased by a person I don't know in a vehicle that I don't recognize, I AM NOT pulling over.
Armed or not, that's not a situation I'm going to insert myself into.
Now If I'm cornered in a parking lot or narrow alley, that's a completely different situation.

Yeah wtf.
First, the people who were stunned are lying, obviously. They offended the guy in some way and they know that.

But more importantly yes if you're going to pull over, first, don't pull over. Second, lock your door keep window up, there's no reason he should ever have been able to stun because he shouldn't have had access to do so.

 

[Justincase]

Even though we talked about justification of using lethal force before, the best way to prevent any of this would be to not get yourself INTO a situation like this in the first place. Which would mean not driving like an asshole, and if someone calls you out on it, and goes overboard and follows you, don't frigging stop and get out of the car. Drive to a police station. There were two within one to five or so miles of where that happened.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Even though we talked about justification of using lethal force before, the best way to prevent any of this would be to not get yourself INTO a situation like this in the first place. Which would mean not driving like an asshole, and if someone calls you out on it, and goes overboard and follows you, don't frigging stop and get out of the car. Drive to a police station. There were two within one to five or so miles of where that happened.

Some of the comments on the Buffalo News article are trying to paint this guy as a "good guy" / almost wannabe LE who was pursuing the other guy for bad driving or whatever, and that when the other guy finally stopped, got out, and walked back, that our guy got out and confronted him, and then in fear for his life, he tasered the other guy! And supposedly the other guy beat the shit out of him, - although he looks fine in his mug shot. Also claims that he carried the taser for personal protection.

That's some major stupidity going on there, - carrying an illegal weapon; trying to play enforcer; road raging and attacking the other driver...

And as for cops, my little town is overwhelmed with them! There's also an Erie County Sheriff station in the south end of town, and the OPPD has close to a dozen cars, including unmarked, on patrol from a force numbering around 50 police officers.

Hell, I live and work here in town, and see cop cars at least 15 or 20 times a day. Every time I look up I see one... If he had called 911, they could have been there in a flash.