Savage Axis, "Fired With Safety"

[RandallOfLegend]

I forgot to bring this up, it happened back in the fall.

A group of us, including a family member were shooting some tannerite cans at 100 yards with a new Savage Axis 30-06 that was bought of hunting season. The rifle was purchased for $280 with a scope. After shooting it, seemed like a great deal for a well made rifle, with a cheap stock.

When my family member went to take a shot, he pushed the safety forward and shot the ground 10 feet in front of the table we used as a rest. I was half watching him, but we were all behind the firing line. It appears that the safety actually fired the rifle. I can't be sure if my family member fumble fingered the trigger, but we all appeared to be following proper safety measures.

It only happened once. Has anyone heard of Savage Rifles having this issue? Certainly scared the piss out of us. I did some general googling and didn't see anything. I am inclined to believe that my family member used his trigger finger as leverage to push the safety forward.

 

[Phauxtoe]

Yea that's real Odd!
I don't know the action, I think that sounds like human error and a cover up!

 

[Blimey]

IMO human error; had finger on trigger despite surely "insisting" that he didnt.

 

[meketrefe]

I heard of that problem with savage and almost any other rilfe in the market.
In the axis after trigger retrofits the back spring for the travel should be adjusted so
it doesn't interfere with the safety. This is a locktited piece too.
So if in fact it touches do not remove the part or it will void the warranty although I doubt it will be unless
you already upgraded the trigger group.
If you take the action out you can actually verify this if they are touching.
This might be the same issue swilliams had but it is imposible to diagnose via forum or email. If that is the case Very rare but easily fixable.
If I were you i will take the stock out and put the barrel on the vise (needless to say no ammo anywhere close)
and try to dry fire it and see if the safety even comes close to touch any part of the trigger mechanism.
Savage will fix any problem but you might not have a problem after all.
Myself I would like to see it with my own eyes.
These things are easy to inspect. The triggers are very simple mechanisms and they are not enclosed like the
remington. Savage, Winchester, mausers, they all are very easy to diagnose and understand.

 

[GUNSICK]

Finger on the trigger.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Found this not sure if you also have Accutrigger

 

[meketrefe]

Found this not sure if you also have Accutrigger

This "expert" actually went ahead and took all the tension out of the sear.
Look at the amount of light that comes out through the tensioning spring.
Savage has a huge warning about the lower limit of the trigger that is more than plenty even
for competition shooting.
For all we know he works for REmington or Ruger.
What a bunch of Bologna.

 

[RandallOfLegend]

Great information.

A few things.

- Not my rifle. But I can get hands on.
- Fully stock, cheap scope included.
- Not accutrigger. I believe any axis rifle had an accutrigger added later.
- Trigger weight is 4 pounds (estimated)
- 30-06 chamber
- An aside. I was impressed with how accurate this gun shot at 100 yards with a freebie scope

 

[Itsmetommyt]

I had a axis 223 that the safety wouldn’t go all the back. When I took it apart the set screw closes to the trigger pivot was down to far and stopping the safety before coming back. Adjusted the set screw up till safety worked. And than had to adjust the screw down against the safety to stop trigger movement or it let trigger disengage and either fire or fire when safety was disengaged. It is a very touchy adjustment.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Following for later

 

[Acer-m14]

I heard of that problem with savage and almost any other rilfe in the market.
In the axis after trigger retrofits the back spring for the travel should be adjusted so
it doesn't interfere with the safety. This is a locktited piece too.
So if in fact it touches do not remove the part or it will void the warranty although I doubt it will be unless
you already upgraded the trigger group.
If you take the action out you can actually verify this if they are touching.
This might be the same issue swilliams had but it is imposible to diagnose via forum or email. If that is the case Very rare but easily fixable.
If I were you i will take the stock out and put the barrel on the vise (needless to say no ammo anywhere close)
and try to dry fire it and see if the safety even comes close to touch any part of the trigger mechanism.
Savage will fix any problem but you might not have a problem after all.
Myself I would like to see it with my own eyes.
These things are easy to inspect. The triggers are very simple mechanisms and they are not enclosed like the
remington. Savage, Winchester, mausers, they all are very easy to diagnose and understand.

yep yep yep ..

I did trigger job on my Axis 223 and 270 .. the stevens trigger i call it .. not the accutrigger ..

you have get the one set screw just right or it will fire with safety on at times ..

 

[fnfalguy]

I was going to suggest what others have. With the factory trigger you can screw with the trigger weight, overtravel enough (beyond mfg recommended)to do a variety of bad things such as fire with the safety on, fire on cocking, etc.

 

[meketrefe]

yep yep yep ..

I did trigger job on my Axis 223 and 270 .. the stevens trigger i call it .. not the accutrigger ..

you have get the one set screw just right or it will fire with safety on at times ..

As I said is very rare and easy to fix.
Since it is also easy to disgnose with the action out and one has the option to send it back and savage will adjust it right away.

 

[Kent Goldings]

I have a Savage Axis 2 in 223. I have shot the thing thousands of times. It has never misfired. Of course, the axis 2 has the different trigger.

BTW, this rifle us crazy accurate for a $300 rifle.

 

[thegatman]

Gave my son one but put in a Timiney trigger as I hated the normal axis trigger. Well worth it.