Semi auto rifle license law passed and headed to governor

[holdover]

The cops dont even know what the law is, you think they are going to bother to enforce it?

 

[spat]

They may at any time claim a standard 870 is an AW.
That doesn't make it correct to say that the law makes it one.

That should be quite a comfort you while you sit in a cell watching your lawyer drain your bank account.

The fact that you can't sue the DA to recoup your costs no matter how egregiously they misbehave doesn't help either.

 

[spat]

The cops dont even know what the law is, you think they are going to bother to enforce it?

Depends on who you piss off.

 

[holdover]

Nahhh, you have to be a fucking lawyer to understand this garbage, the average cop is going to look at it and shrug.

 

[Tisto]

You know we still don't really know if "Bullet Buttons" are/were or are not legal modifications... Historical Precedence would dictate they are, but without a Court Case or non-existent) Ruling from the NYSP it's still a grey area.

Actually, there is some precedence for Bullet Buttons here in N.Y.
Shortly after NYSAFE went into effect, the NYSP ( by direction from the AG ) raided a gun shop in Albion N.Y. That establishment had been selling AR's modified with Bullet Buttons. Records of sales were searched and every modified gun that was sold was recalled. The NYSP allowed the gun shop to epoxy the Bullet Button, rendering it inoperable. The rifles were then returned to their owners.

Since there was, and remains to this day, no official definition as to what constitutes a "fixed magazine", even the epoxied bullet button remains to be legally questionable. However, the NYSP approval of it in that case does lend credence as to it's legality. By the same token, simply installing a Bullet Button as the manufacturer intended is clearly NOT acceptable to the NYSP and AG.

The NYSPand the AG had no desire to prosecute that case simply because it would force a definition. Vagueness of the law is a huge advantage to the State. " The law means what we want it to mean in this case.".

Until this licensing scheme is designed and rolled out, nobody knows exactly what it will entail. What items will or will not be subject to it's restrictions are still unknown. Even after implementation of the process, legal challenges are likely to keep parts if not all of it in limbo.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

Just gets easier with every law when you comply. i dont see any gun owners on the streets protesting ….AGAIN

Itll take more than 150 ppl

 

[Acer-m14]

We should ban cooking ..

 

[Truebeliever]

I don't know what defines "Readily Converted". I have seen stripped AR lowers fully assembled in minutes. (Spikes Tactical had a guy that could complete one in a minute) while other people can't even figure out which springs go where, could it be the speed and easy of pinning a complete (unregulated) Upper to a Lower? If you assemble/disassemble in the Privacy of your own home one wouldn't think there would be an issue, but every Cop has a story about answering a Call to a residence and seeing all sorts of clearly illegal shit right out in the open.
NYSP-Gun Investigation Unit Senior Officer told me that having the parts that could be put together amounted to "constructive intent" (with the idea that simply seperating the upper from the Lower no longer made it a Gun) At one time ATF said that having M-16 parts was the same as building a machinegun.

Yep. I understand that as readily covertable if the parts in the same place together. My issue if they broaden that definition to “ it’s able to be converted” by today’s standards and call it “readily covertable”

 

[Defilade]

 

[ManualF150]

WHO'S NEXT?

Hmm... lemme get my thinking cap on here....

Oh...

The USA?