Shooter reported, people reported shot at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland

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Darth said:
So it's been one day and we, the group that says "don't just rush to blame something and try and ban guns" have narrowed it down to:

The left.
Social media.
Regular media and fame seeking.
Lack of armed guards at schools.
The deep state.
Millianals, again.
The FBI.
The 4th amendment.
The parents.
Big Pharma and SSRIs.
Isis.


I'm sure I'm missing some. Wouldn't want to jump the gun. :)
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Oh man! Spot on!
 
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Some also don't have the decency to admit when they don't understand how some can help others when they do. Yeah, I looked since @Willjr75 posted. Again, stunned you still have to do what you do unprovoked. Get help.
 
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What was the patsy's name in LV ? Paddock 2.0

Well medicated patsy's

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his is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed:

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.
 
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Darth said:
At least school shooters have the decency to admit what they are doing isn't helping anyone.;)

Actually that's not always even true.
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I just took you off ignore for two reasons. First, I wanted to be able to see when you talk smack about me. Second, I have a serious question for you to figure out things in my head. Obviously, @Willjr75 was joking when he made his comment. I fully understand it was in jest. Yours on the other hand wasn't IMHO. This is my question. What drives you to make an insulting comment pointed at me (Mr. Winky doesn't take away from your purpose in this case) on a thread that has nothing to do with our beef or any of my beliefs? Why do you insist on the snarky personal jabs like that?
 
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I just took you off ignore for two reasons. First, I wanted to be able to see when you talk smack about me. Second, I have a serious question for you to figure out things in my head. Obviously, @Willjr75 was joking when he made his comment. I fully understand it was in jest. Yours on the other hand wasn't IMHO. This is my question. What drives you to make an insulting comment pointed at me (Mr. Winky doesn't take away from your purpose in this case) on a thread that has nothing to do with our beef or any of my beliefs? Why do you insist on the snarky personal jabs like that?
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Since you started your tirade on this alternative medicine stuff, you have shit all over those that post opposing views. You let your blatant bias get in the way of a rational discussion. Then what you did was attempt to discredit those opposing views my claiming that you were an authority on the issue because you are a "doctor", which not only are you not in the sense being discussed, it wouldn't matter if you were, or if you were the queen of England. When you are wrong, you are wrong. Regardless of which costume you wear that day. When you still didn't understand that you tried the "oh, your just a know it all!" Again, just out of thin air. Then, instead of defending why your position should trump the established facts, instead of doing that, you repeat "you don't know what I do", as if you're an agent of the KGB. Fine. All while doing this, you contine to post demonstrably dangerous pseudoscience, and that continues to be debunked. You repeatedly ignore those that prove your click bait articles wrong. You demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge of even basic chemistry, and then speak as if you are an authority on the subject and know more than the actual research states. Then you play the victim and cry about personal attacks after repeated attacks on me over 2 different forums The difference is that I could not care less about personal attacks. They don't do anything for me. I think that about coves it for now.
 
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Since you started your tirade on this alternative medicine stuff, you have shit all over those that post opposing views. You let your blatant bias get in the way of a rational discussion. Then what you did was attempt to discredit those opposing views my claiming that you were an authority on the issue because you are a "doctor", which not only are you not in the sense being discussed, it wouldn't matter if you were, or if you were the queen of England. When you are wrong, you are wrong. Regardless of which costume you wear that day. When you still didn't understand that you tried the "oh, your just a know it all!" Again, just out of thin air. Then, instead of defending why your position should trump the established facts, instead of doing that, you repeat "you don't know what I do", as if you're an agent of the KGB. Fine. All while doing this, you contine to post demonstrably dangerous pseudoscience, and that continues to be debunked. You repeatedly ignore those that prove your click bait articles wrong. You demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge of even basic chemistry, and then speak as if you are an authority on the subject and know more than the actual research states. Then you play the victim and cry about personal attacks after repeated attacks on me over 2 different forums The difference is that I could not care less about personal attacks. They don't do anything for me. I think that about coves it for now.
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Didn't answer my question. Why do you antagonize on a thread that has nothing to do with the other threads I posted? Tirade? I just post things I find of value that you seem to have some vendetta against. I never claimed I am an authority. I merely state things based on my experience based on 20 years of what I do. I have more experience doing what I do compared to your experience doing what I do. Somehow you took that as I said I'm an authority. No agent of the KGB here. I am merely pointing out the fact that you don't know what I do in my practice and how I do it. That's not bragging or rhetoric. You don't. I'm not faulting you about that. It's just a fact. Your opinion is that I post things that are wrong. I get that. I also just wonder what practical experience you have had helping people regain health that your understanding of chemistry has led to. Again, I am not boasting or trying to insult you when I say that I have been in practice for over 20 years applying what I do and see great things all of the time and questioning what results you have to compare to doing what ever you do. What you call attacks I call questioning. Yes, at a point I got nasty but only in response to your constant questioning of my integrity. So, once again, what reason do you have to get nasty and condescending on a thread that is far from the pseudo science that I do and believe in? Can you answer this one question?
 
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Didn't answer my question. Why do you antagonize on a thread that has nothing to do with the other threads I posted? Tirade? I just post things I find of value that you seem to have some vendetta against. I never claimed I am an authority. I merely state things based on my experience based on 20 years of what I do. I have more experience doing what I do compared to your experience doing what I do. Somehow you took that as I said I'm an authority. No agent of the KGB here. I am merely pointing out the fact that you don't know what I do in my practice and how I do it. That's not bragging or rhetoric. You don't. I'm not faulting you about that. It's just a fact. Your opinion is that I post things that are wrong. I get that. I also just wonder what practical experience you have had helping people regain health that your understanding of chemistry has led to. Again, I am not boasting or trying to insult you when I say that I have been in practice for over 20 years applying what I do and see great things all of the time and questioning what results you have to compare to doing what ever you do. What you call attacks I call questioning. Yes, at a point I got nasty but only in response to your constant questioning of my integrity. So, once again, what reason do you have to get nasty and condescending on a thread that is far from the pseudo science that I do and believe in? Can you answer this one question?
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It's not my "opinion" that you are wrong. It's reality. Not up for debate. If you claim a vaccine contains ingredient X, and it in fact does not, but that claim was simply maid to get clicks and spread dangerous information, that's wrong. No belief involved.

As for your "question", if you look really closely, I didn't bring it up in this thread. Someone else did. Again, not an opinion.
 
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Umm, if you had taken the time to click and read the article you would have seen it is a repost from ammoland.com

Seriously darth, theres more to life than sitting around in your moms basement all day and wanking it
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I don't care if it's a report from Donald Trump himself?

Quoting unreliable sources has never been a good idea.

Oh boo hoo personal attack, woe is me. :'( Nah, I don't care. Get better material.
 
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Darth said:
It's not my "opinion" that you are wrong. It's reality. Not up for debate. If you claim a vaccine contains ingredient X, and it in fact does not, but that claim was simply maid to get clicks and spread dangerous information, that's wrong. No belief involved.

As for you "question", if you look really closely, I didn't bring it up in this thread. Someone else did. Again, not an opinion.
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So what I have seen in my practice, while tangible, is wrong. Got it. Never said you brought it up. Again I said, if you really look closely, that one was said in jest which I thought was funny and instead of leaving it at that you had to say, "At least school shooters have the decency to admit what they are doing isn't helping anyone.;)" which went beyond a cute off the cuff comment. You could have said nothing and just liked his comment, no? It was though just another chance to get a dig in and make it a tad bit personal.
 
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So what I have seen in my practice, while tangible, is wrong. Got it. Never said you brought it up. Again I said, if you really look closely, that one was said in jest which I thought was funny and instead of leaving it at that you had to say, "At least school shooters have the decency to admit what they are doing isn't helping anyone.;)" which went beyond a cute off the cuff comment. You could have said nothing and just liked his comment, no? It was though just another chance to get a dig in and make it a tad bit personal.
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And the people that experienced getting abducted by aliens are just as wrong.

Anecdotes are not evidence. That's why we have peer review. What people don't do in peer review is "Oh, OK, yeah, I saw it with my own 2 eyes, but I'm wrong, yeah, whatever."
 
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