"Six radical ways to tackle US school shootings"

[freddy]

1. Don't name the shooter...
2. Let teachers carry guns...
3. Two doors in every classroom...
4. Remove guns from people 'in crisis'...
5. Airport-style security in schools...
6. Repeal the Second Amendment

Gun-owners' rights are protected by the US Constitution. The Second Amendment, adopted in 1791, gives Americans the right to "keep and bear arms".​

The Constitution, though, can be altered.

Amendments can be proposed by Congress - when two-thirds of both houses are in favour - or by two-thirds of the states. The amendment must then be approved by three-quarters of states.

For example, the Eighteenth Amendment prohibited alcohol. The Twenty-First Amendment repealed it.

Since the Florida shootings, some commentators have called for the Second Amendment to be repealed.

"Most gun-control legislation is ineffective when most Americans have a guaranteed constitutional right to purchase deadly weaponry in nearly unlimited quantities," wrote Bret Stephens in the New York Times.

But it isn't just the national constitution that gives Americans gun rights. Forty-four state constitutions also give people the right to bear arms.

And - even if the Second Amendment were repealed - it wouldn't mean that guns were banned. It would simply remove the constitutional right to "keep and bear arms".​

Read article here: Six radical ways to tackle US school shootings

 

[freddy]

So you see...

And - even if the Second Amendment were repealed - it wouldn't mean that guns were banned. It would simply remove the constitutional right to "keep and bear arms".

No big deal, guys! It will all work out okay!

 

[redtail]

meh
How to stop school shootings 101:

-remove gun free zones

-arm random teachers

-school resource officers

-stop listening to liberals

 

[kev74]

I'm ok with #1 and #2.

 

[holdover]

close the schools

 

[Acer-m14]

no gun free zone .. no knife free zone .. no trophies for 4th to last place ..
close the schools or disband CPS and bring spanking back

today kids have the king n queen of the home ..

put vets in schools .. till the above is met

 

[libertysnake]

I don't think they will ever get the 2nd completely stricken down outright. If they did, in a very public manner, I think war would likely break out to protect it.

All of this exploitation and sentimentalization of shootings, to a disproportionate amount, is happening for a reason. After all, when was there a high profile news piece on automobile deaths per year? There's no agenda there, so that's why you don't hear about it.

In the end, I think what will likely happen, to keep the public calm and to make it seem like we still have such a right, is they will chip away little by little at 2nd till it no longer effectively exists. Turning up the heat of the water slowly will prevent the frog from noticing till it's far too late.

• "Well, it's just regulating the sales of automatic weapons."
• "Well, it's just a ban on the automatic weapons -- who uses full auto anyway?"
• "Well, it's just a ban on certain features."
• "Well, it's just micro stamping as a protective measure. Sure, it's a little more expensive, but at least they're leaving all the features."
• Etc.

To top all of that off, the non-ban states are just as naive. If they don't think the same will happen to them, they're going to learn that lesson very hard. Non-ban states need to be pressuring the federal government to remove restrictions, and to crack down on ban states that do for violations of the bill of rights. If they don't fight politically to protect the rights of ALL people in the union, they'll be next as their urban populations grow. Even deep red states have dark blue cities.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Article by BBC? They're the reason we have the Constitution in the first place.

 

[Catskillkid]

I was good with #1-#3.
Got a little concerned with #4 (who defines what "crisis" is and when said "crisis" is over? Too much opportunity for abuse).
#5 is worth looking into and maybe even implementing but it will be very expensive and time consuming. Plus it seems like most of these shooters just bypass security anyway regardless of metal detectors, locked doors (doesn't help you if he shoots out all glass doors), etc.
#6...Yeah, no thanks BBC. If you think that repealing the 2nd Amendment won't lead to British or Australian style gun control you've just proven that you clearly don't have a clue and are showing your true intentions with this "helping" that you think you're doing.

My radical response to your radical ways of combating school shootings is: Go back to watching the royal wedding and stay the hell out of our business. Oh, and GFY.

 

[S&W Fan]

So far in the last two school shootings school resource officers haven’t been worth a Fuck.

 

[Acer-m14]

So far in the last two school shootings school resource officers haven’t been worth a Fuck.

just saying .. but they want to go home to family at the end of the day .. not all i will say ..

this is why we should use our vets that are willing to do this .. they all ready did it for the country knowing they might not come home .. ..

 

[Phauxtoe]

Courthouse style security
Resource officers
Alternative to Making the shooter famous!

 

[Dinkus the Stinkus]

Straight out of the communist playbook...

 

[Bozo]

As long as there are people that believe a constitution "GIVES" people rights, American liberty will be in jeopardy.

 

[71velle]

Step #1
Airport type security to keep students from carrying guns in and keep people out of the school who dont belong. Is the best thing is to prevent the problem in the first place.

Step #2
Armed people in schools is good but wont stop school shooters and my not be close enough, they could surely minimize the the damage tho.

All school workers should armed with high power mace, so every adult could be more than a human shield.


And my unpopular idea, have stiff penalties for gun owners who let their guns fall in the hands of others.

 

[kev74]

The thought that the same school districts who bitch that they cant afford books, field trips or sports equipment will magically be able to pay for armed security, and airport style screening is ridiculous. There are a ton of schools who have spent tons of money on video screening and electronic door locks after Sandy Hook. Now 5 years later, the video screening setups are crapping out and the schools won't pay for repairs. Then when it gets hot out, the fancy electronic doors get propped open. In the morning and in the afternoon, all the nice people coming and going hold the doors open for each other - that's what we do in a polite society. Its going to be impossible to effectively secure a school without making it into a prison.

Here's the solution.... acceptance of the fact that there is risk involved in living and functioning in a free society, that you can't make everyone 100% safe, and that making a safer environment is more important than making helping people "feel" safe. How about instead of having one sleepy cop and a few middle-aged women hall monitors expected to confront an attacker, we teach EVERYONE to confront an attacker - when one of these creeps steps into a classroom, they're savagely attacked by a teacher, an aid and 20 or 30 kids. I bet these cowards wouldn't even try it if they expected any resistance. What if schools offered defensive training to their staffs, either armed or unarmed - there are lots of possible improvised weapons in a classroom.

 

[96coal449]

Ban 3 letter federal organizations. CIA, FBI, EPA, ....

Speaking of the CIA does anyone remember MKultra? It explains an awful fucking lot.

 

[Dinkus the Stinkus]

Ban 3 letter federal organizations. CIA, FBI, EPA, ....

Speaking of the CIA does anyone remember MKultra? It explains an awful fucking lot.

Remember? They only said they shut it down. Doubt they really did.

 

[96coal449]

Remember? They only said they shut it down. Doubt they really did.

Yea I think about it every time I see one of these kids dumbfounded expressions as they're charged with a mass shooting.

 

[Dinkus the Stinkus]

Yea I think about it every time I see one of these kids dumbfounded expressions as they're charged with a mass shooting.

It's to the point where you can almost predict when the next one will be... Notice how they aren't targeting NY, California or Illinois. Hmm.

Also it's almost always guns stolen from the parents or someone who shouldn't be able to pass a nics passing and buying guns.

It's like they want to prove gun control is a failure, as long as the people watching are paying attention.

 

[96coal449]

It's to the point where you can almost predict when the next one will be... Notice how they aren't targeting NY, California or Illinois. Hmm.

Also it's almost always guns stolen from the parents or someone who shouldn't be able to pass a nics passing and buying guns.

It's like they want to prove gun control is a failure, as long as the people watching are paying attention.

The message is GC is failing, so we need to remove them.

 

[Dinkus the Stinkus]

The message is GC is failing, so we need to remove them.

And then they say this...

 

[96coal449]

It's all so FUBARed it's comical.

 

[BDinPutnam]

#3 two doors in every classroom...

A. This theoretically means securing (from inside and outside) two entrances as well, during an event. And figuring out which one is "safe" to exit from. Are we going to better mouse trap a shooter by somehow getting the kids out one door, let him slide in, and lock the second door behind him?
B. Less important- How much would it cost and how long would it take to retrofit every existing classroom that only has one door?

Once you turn the schools into locked down prisons, these deranged kids will switch from firearms... to arson.

 

[96coal449]

#3 two doors in every classroom...

A. This theoretically means securing (from inside and outside) two entrances as well, during an event. And figuring out which one is "safe" to exit from. Are we going to better mouse trap a shooter by somehow getting the kids out one door, let him slide in, and lock the second door behind him?
B. Less important- How much would it cost and how long would it take to retrofit every existing classroom that only has one door?

Once you turn the schools into locked down prisons, these deranged kids will switch from firearms... to arson.

Yup It's all FUBAR. Just part of the plan.

 

[96coal449]

Speaking of doors ..... wonder when the deep state will start blocking entrances?

 

[Duke]

Police stationed at all schools.....There is a lot going on in High Schools if we all remember....