So fixed mag nonsense...

[cgrutt]

Recently took boy to range with a pre-unSAFE MSR with fixed 10-round mag.

So when loading 10-(permitted) rounds and closing upper onto lower noticed a fair amount of resistance. Followed by ALOT of resistance to pull charging handle back and load a round. Assuming this is normal under circumstances but will it cause damage to the BCG? FUAC

Oh and not to mention (but, alas, I will... person at range wanted to check targets...
So tried to clear MSR to make safe and resulted in two double feeds. Took a good five minutes to clear MSR and make safe when it should have been 20 seconds...

How this makes anyone SAFE is beyond me. FUAC.

 

[spat]

Recently took boy to range with a pre-unSAFE MSR with fixed 10-round mag.

So when loading 10-(permitted) rounds and closing upper onto lower noticed a fair amount of resistance. Followed by ALOT of resistance to pull charging handle back and load a round. Assuming this is normal under circumstances but will it cause damage to the BCG? FUAC

Oh and not to mention (but, alas, I will... person at range wanted to check targets...
So tried to clear MSR to make safe and resulted in two double feeds. Took a good five minutes to clear MSR and make safe when it should have been 20 seconds...

How this makes anyone SAFE is beyond me. FUAC.

Quicker to split the upper from the lower to make it safe than to try to unload the mag.

I don't know about your range, but I would consider that "good enough".

I do not have any trouble with my fixed mag AR, either closing it or pulling the charging handle back.

 

[cgrutt]

Uh, hadn't thought of that lol...

But when there is a double feed no easy way to split upper from lower as the BCG and buffer tube is kinda stuck in both, no?

Never mind me just ranting on absurdity of unSAFE as you and I both know it makes nobody safer than the criminals. FUAC

 

[cgrutt]

BTW range member was super cool and was good going down range with bolt pulled back and the action opened up.

 

[spat]

Uh, hadn't thought of that lol...

But when there is a double feed no easy way to split upper from lower as the BCG and buffer tube is kinda stuck in both, no?

Never mind me just ranting on absurdity of unSAFE as you and I both know it makes nobody safer than the criminals. FUAC

Yea, I've thought that a tool might be created for fix mag ARs that allows you to easily depress the round in the magazine so that you can close the bolt without loading another round for situations like that.

 

[cgrutt]

Yea, I've thought that a tool might be created for fix mag ARs that allows you to easily depress the round in the magazine so that you can close the bolt without loading another round for situations like that.

My issue was round chambered but didn't extract causing round in mag to crepe up and double feed. We corrected by locking bolt back and sliding round on feed ramps back into mag then and hitting buttstock on bench to remove chambered round. Yeah, pretty unSAFE IMO. FUAC.

 

[Vapor]

I would like the cancel my subscription to the SAFE act...

 

[JamieZ]

Are you using a Pmag?

 

[tony]

So would it be safe to say this MSR was made unsafe by the requirements of the safe act?

Fits right inline with FUAC's recent lack of thinking.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Are you using a Pmag?

Just popping the floor plate out might be helpful too. It only takes a second to put back together.

 

[cgrutt]

Are you using a Pmag?

Nope should I be?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Nope should I be?

I have a pmag in mine. If I need to "remove the mag" (like you would on any normal rifle not in this forsaken unsafe state) you just remove the floor plate, the spring and follower drop down along with your remaining boolits. It takes just a few seconds to take apart or put back together

 

[cgrutt]

I have a pmag in mine. If I need to "remove the mag" (like you would on any normal rifle not in this forsaken unsafe state) you just remove the floor plate, the spring and follower drop down along with your remaining boolits. It takes just a few seconds to take apart or put back together

Confused isnt that also the case with a standard mag? A pmag is polymer, right? Probably don't know what I'm talking about lol...

 

[BDinPutnam]

It's a Special Purpose Cartridge. Maybe earlier you were using it for the wrong Purpose?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Confused isnt that also the case with a standard mag? A pmag is polymer, right? Probably don't know what I'm talking about lol...

The bottom of the PMag opens easier to spill out the guts if you have a problem than a steel mag will. That’s the difference.

If the double feed is on top of the feed lips of either magazine, than you’ll still need a tool regardless if you spill everything out from the bottom.

 

[cgrutt]

Yeah I just slid it back into mag then banged stock on bench (with bolt open) to get round out of chamber. PITA but no biggie.

 

[Marine Cpl]

If you use a Comp mag, loading and unloading can be done without pulling any pins.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

So would it be safe to say this MSR was made unsafe by the requirements of the safe act?

Fits right inline with FUAC's recent lack of thinking.

The line of thinking was to keep the public safe from your gun. Not to keep you safe from your gun. They don't give a shit about the shooter.

 

[tony]

In the original post it kept no one safe, no one...

 

[Marine Cpl]

So would it be safe to say this MSR was made unsafe by the requirements of the safe act?

Fits right inline with FUAC's recent lack of thinking.

The Safe Act didn’t intend for you to fix the magazine. The intent was to ban them entirely. For you to sell them out of state or register them so that after you die they are gone since no one who took possession of them would be able to register them.

Fixing the magazine was a loophole. The law did not intend for you to do that.

 

[spat]

The line of thinking was to keep the public safe from your gun. Not to keep you safe from your gun. They don't give a shit about the shooter.

It is to keep the tyrants safe from the electorate.

The care as much about the public as they do the gun owners.

 

[repete]

As a side note, I noticed on a couple of fixed mag guns that used a pinned or rivet to limit the mag that if you load 9 rounds the BCG moves easier. That leads me to believe that the rivet is off slightly. It sucks but I have one that I've grown accustomed to having 9 instead of 10.

 

[Chevusa]

I had problems with mine until I swapped the steel mag for a Lancer mag. I highly recommend them. They are like Glock mags. Steel wrapped in polymer. The floor plate can be removed in a second with any type of punch or even a pen. It’s made a night and day difference. Feeds great. Loads easier. Cycles perfect every time. Look into the BF10 loader too. Great setup.

 

[JamieZ]

Nope should I be?

No,,,I think they are junk and cause the problems you mentioned. Have had it happen with a AR and my RPR.