"Stop and Frisk" solved murder case

[GOPerfect]

The detectives can't ask any more questions until a lawyer is present. So the lead detective doesn't talk to him at all but just stares at him. For hours. He doesn't say one word but sits in the room. The killer couldn't take the silence anymore and confessed. All he did was look at him.

Guys want to tell what they did and just being nice/professional and listening to them

There are two great examples of coercion. Nothing was violated in either of them. The list goes on and on. The list is long and NO Rights are violated. Sometimes just presence can be used a coercion tool.

The time-honored "good cop bad cop" routine, in which one detective browbeats the suspect and the other pretends to be looking out for him. People tend to trust and talk to someone they perceive as their protector.

Another basic technique is maximization, in which the police try to scare the suspect into talking by telling him all of the horrible things he'll face if he's convicted of the crime in a court of law.

Again, nary a Right is violated.

 

[Airborneguy]

My unit's arrest today came in with an attorney. He politely asked that we not question the guy. My cop said she had no intention of asking questions because it was all in the text messages anyway. The lawyer actually laughed, and not like "whatever, cop" but like "what an idiot this guy is." It was pretty funny.

Are they pushing stalking up by you goperfect? It's our bread and butter right now. Too easy. And the perps come in voluntarily because they literally think they did nothing wrong.

 

[spat]

There are two great examples of coercion. Nothing was violated in either of them. The list goes on and on. The list is long and NO Rights are violated. Sometimes just presence can be used a coercion tool.

The time-honored "good cop bad cop" routine, in which one detective browbeats the suspect and the other pretends to be looking out for him. People tend to trust and talk to someone they perceive as their protector.

Another basic technique is maximization, in which the police try to scare the suspect into talking by telling him all of the horrible things he'll face if he's convicted of the crime in a court of law.

Again, nary a Right is violated.

Maybe we just differ on what we consider coercion.

Those examples are borderline IMHO. Both are essentially taking advantage of someones ignorance of their rights, I can't say I find that all that ethical.

 

[GOPerfect]

Maybe we just differ on what we consider coercion.

Those examples are borderline IMHO. Both are essentially taking advantage of someones ignorance of their rights, I can't say I find that all that ethical.

I never said I had morals or ethics at work. Not needed. I sleep well most nights.

 

[Airborneguy]

I have to agree with ththat above. There are times, and you know this Spat, where we as cops know 100% that we have the right guy. At those times, we will follow the law, but we willbe toeing the line closely, and ethics and morals will go out the window. Our victims deserve that.

 

[4excal]

I never said I had morals or ethics at work. Not needed. I sleep well most nights.

 

[GOPerfect]

You always maintain yours at 100%?

 

[4excal]

You can't claim to be for law and order and justice if you are bullying people into giving up their rights, you just can't.



Yes I can!

Gotta throw the ole here too..
Lol

 

[4excal]

You always maintain yours at 100%?

Pretty much. But I definitely don't boast about it if I had broken off 100%. But our career lines are different, so it's a null point. The "'s" where only for the delivery of the responses.