Straight wall rifle use in shotgun only areas

[meketrefe]

Actually the reason a .410 isn't legal for big game dates back to the shot gun only time, a .410 is a caliber and not a "gauge" thus it's not a shotgun. Or it could be that it's not considered powerful enough, Or so I'm told. I'm also told that they are very accurate with slugs but have no experience with a .410 other than shooting clay birds with my TC Contender.

I understand it is marginal but in the woods at close range modern high performance loads are still pretty decent in terms of wounding potential and given one chioces game on the light side and in close range so the kid can have a good experience.
The thing is that good hot loads for modern firearms are scarce and that is why they might exclude them. It is like the grizzly 357 loads, not all firearms can take the heat so they come with a warning.
Personally I would wait a couple of years and introduce the kid to a moderate yet decent deer killer like a 30-30 or a mild 120gr 7-08 or 308.
They sell the youth rifles in those with the blocks for the stock that one can add as the kids grow and keep the gun for ever as they take aftermarket stocks like a nice savage axis or savage 10. Those make great youth guns that one can grow woth amd keep.

 

[meketrefe]

....or if shotgun is a must use a light 20ga. Sauvestre from france makes some very lethal lead free partition sabots and recoil is not horrible but not for a 10yr. Old.

 

[Xae289]

Actually the reason a .410 isn't legal for big game dates back to the shot gun only time, a .410 is a caliber and not a "gauge" thus it's not a shotgun. Or it could be that it's not considered powerful enough, Or so I'm told. I'm also told that they are very accurate with slugs but have no experience with a .410 other than shooting clay birds with my TC Contender.

Funny how the regs are written. Can't use a 28 gauge shotgun, a .410, or buckshot, but there's nothing but your own common sense and ethics to stop you from taking an underwear gun chambered in .32 ACP bear hunting.

 

[Bustedknees]

I remember waiting a long time to buy my first rifled slug gun for deer hunts. Almost immediately after I broke down and bought a new 870 the state legalized hunting deer with rifles in my county. Never ran a single slug threw it and I still like my smooth bore S&W slug gun better.

 

[NYfirefighter357]

While at my LGS they told me that NY may be legalizing straight walled cartridges, I didn't ask, it was just in conversation. .

 

[Xae289]

While at my LGS they told me that NY may be legalizing straight walled cartridges, I didn't ask, it was just in conversation. .

It would be nice. I've been considering a .450 Bushmaster upper for a long time, but never saw the value in it. That change to the regs would have me buy it ASAP.