STUNNED: cuomo is actually spending money on the North country

[Jmac00]

the Emperor is actually spending money on something other that NY shitty

Governor Cuomo Announces $4.2 Million for Snowmobile Trail Maintenance and Grooming Across New York State

Governor Cuomo announces $4.2 million for snowmobile trail maintenance and grooming across New York State and designated the weekend of January 25-27 as a free snowmobiling weekend for all out-of-state and Canadian snowmobilers.

www.governor.ny.gov

it's not really going to create any jobs. It's not any kind of economic scheme, but at least SOMEONE will benefit from it. Restaurants, hotels and such, should see a benefit

 

[Deplorable Me]

Bullshit. The prick will raise fees on snowmobile registration. Surcharge on snowmobile insurance. NYSP will be patrolling trails handing out tickets. But no taxes will be raised.

 

[Deplorable Me]

I forgot, a free snowmobile to every new illegal immigrant family in NY with their voter registration.

 

[Bustedknees]

Don't buy this load of bullshit, the money comes from snowmobile registrations that Cuomo has a long history of stealing from, placing monies in the general fund so he spend elsewhere. What isn't stolen is divided by the miles of trails a club grooms per year.

 

[MilesTeg]

Seems pointless with global warming.

 

[Gonzobird]

This is bullshit. 100%. He can announce anything but lets see if he actually lets the money go to what it is for.

4.2 million for trail grooming? By me it is all done locally by local volunteers. Do you think they will get any of the money? All he will do is have the sate take a bulldozer to the trail and widen them. What to make it less fun? The hotels and such won't see an increase in profits with this. THe same people who snowmobile and go wheeling on those trails are the same people who have been doing it for years. This is a scheme to hide money on paper. I am on those trail in the summer time. I am going to watch and see how many are actually getting worked on.

 

[NYGuns]

I would have done it for 3.8m, he got ripped off

 

[spat]

Find out who gets the 4.2M contract to do this, and you'll find out why he's "helping upstate".

Plus, 4.2M isn't even petty cash for NYS, it's more like the change found in the couch.

 

[FrankenCub]

Free weekend pass for out of state and Canoks but us NY'ers damn well better have our expensive trail passes.
And the fuckin moron is making it sound like he's doing snowmobilers a favor by giving up this money....we pay for this shit. Nothing but a publicity ad.

 

[Deplorable Me]

This is bullshit. 100%. He can announce anything but lets see if he actually lets the money go to what it is for.

4.2 million for trail grooming? By me it is all done locally by local volunteers. Do you think they will get any of the money? All he will do is have the sate take a bulldozer to the trail and widen them. What to make it less fun? The hotels and such won't see an increase in profits with this. THe same people who snowmobile and go wheeling on those trails are the same people who have been doing it for years. This is a scheme to hide money on paper. I am on those trail in the summer time. I am going to watch and see how many are actually getting worked on.

The $4.2 million is for the friends he gave jobs to. Ya know, management and government oversight. The physical work will still be done by volunteers.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Just another place for PoPo to hang out... The Ontario Cty Sherriff was always all over the trails on the weekend here on the honoeye trails. You go a ways...hit a reg check.....Just get in the gas again and turn a corner...another stop for reg..... its lke dude..my reggy didnt expire in the last two turns.....

The club always said the first stop should give you a sticky or something so you werent so hassled the nesxt 36 times!!!!!!

between that and no snow anymore really....I got ride of my sled.

 

[ProgSpear]

Yeah. He promised $10M to fix the Sauquoit Creek flooding problem in Whitesboro to great fanfare with Anthony Picente (Oneida County Executive) in 2016... Oh wait. That was an election year. Has the flooding problem been fixed? Short answer - NO!

As far as the OP goes, all I see him doing is playing to his downstate constituency; he told us flat out that "we" are not welcome in "his" state, and anything he can do to simply turn upstate into a playground for his homies is what he is doing.

 

[GOYABEAN]

money laundering scheme how else would he fill his piggy bank account slush fund

 

[Bustedknees]

I gave up sledding about 15 years ago but remember some of the politics. The clubs lobbied to increase the registration $$ amount to increase funds for trails. This could be offset if you joined a club . The monies were stolen by Albany and the clubs had to sue the state.. These monies are not taken from the general tax funds, they are raised by the snowmobile registrations ! Now Cuomo likes anything that he can tax , so once every few years he puts on a new shiny snowmobile coat and takes a few pictures on the Tug Hill.
ATV's , under State law EVERY MACHINE MUST BE REGISTERED, even if used on personal property.. ATV's out sell snowmobiles now so the registration money is huge but with zero benefits given back to the sport. Last I knew zero money from that tax was given back for any form of trail system. If you see a trail system it is funded by a private clubs or town & county run.. I believe NY is the only state in the union that actually outlaws atv's for road use. I have heard rumor's that Cuomo actually wants to change this because its a gold mine of money for the state . But like any other Upstate want and need it is killed off by the NY City environmentalist..

 

[Bigfoot]

Bullshit. The prick will raise fees on snowmobile registration. Surcharge on snowmobile insurance. NYSP will be patrolling trails handing out tickets. But no taxes will be raised.

Exactly... you are spot on.

 

[Bigfoot]

Don't buy this load of bullshit, the money comes from snowmobile registrations that Cuomo has a long history of stealing from, placing monies in the general fund so he spend elsewhere. What isn't stolen is divided by the miles of trails a club grooms per year.

Yep, that is exactly what happened.

People that do not ride sleds on a trail system probably do not know that.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Exactly... you are spot on.

Damn right, professional cynic.

 

[Twogunwilly]

All of our trails are on private property, I call bull shit.

 

[ProgSpear]

All of our trails are on private property, I call bull shit.

Which points out the key difference between communism and fascism. Under communism, the state enforces collective ownership of all property at the point of a gun. Under fascism, the state enforces control of all privately owned property at the point of a gun.

Cuomo is a fascist. Prove me wrong.

 

[Darth]

Can I opt my tax money out of this shit?

 

[Twogunwilly]

Cuomo is a fascist. Prove me wrong.

Not it.

 

[Acer-m14]

when is the next open carry snowmobile run and where can i rent a sled ..

didn't FUAC transfer funds from us that buy hunting licenses to the gen fund or others ..

 

[Grimscale]

ATV's , under State law EVERY MACHINE MUST BE REGISTERED,

I know this WAS a thing a long time ago, but is it still a thing?

My father-in-law got a refund on the registration monies he had to send in when a judge ruled that NY couldn't force registration without having benefits for ATV riders. ie: there is no ATV trail system in NY.

 

[Bustedknees]

I know this WAS a thing a long time ago, but is it still a thing?

My father-in-law got a refund on the registration monies he had to send in when a judge ruled that NY couldn't force registration without having benefits for ATV riders. ie: there is no ATV trail system in NY.

Possibly, I wouldn't push the issue myself because for the 25 years I've been riding the police always ask for reg and insurance.. but if I strictly rode private property, hell no I wouldn't waste the $15.

 

[Jmac00]

ATV's , under State law EVERY MACHINE MUST BE REGISTERED, even if used on personal property..

thats not true. I have a Can-Am 570 that I originally did register and insure, but we only use it on private property. So we let it lapse. IF YOU RIDE ON PUBLIC TRAILS then yes, you need to register it and insure it.
My wife use to work for Filers Power Sports in Macedon, she knows the rules. Unless something changed in the last 24 months???

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Years ago we went to PA timberridge trail system to ride our dirt bikes...they have the idea... let em ride between the oil pumps or whatever and we wont have to mow it...al win..... and people followed the rules!! it was not chaos....... no fees no ins........atleast I dont remember paying a fee to ride but it was a while ago but loved it.

 

[jimc]

ATV's and UTV's under 1000 lbs and 70" wide have to registered in NY, with a few exceptions. Mine is registered in PA. It's easier, and it's over 1000# so it can't be registered in NY anyway. The only reason I register it in PA is so I can ride trails there.

Register an ATV

What is considered an all-terrain vehicle (‘ATV’)?An all-terrain vehicle (ATV) is any self-propelled vehicle, including an off-road motorcycle, that is manufactured for use on off-road trails or in off-road competitions. These vehicles cannot be more than 70 inches wide and cannot weigh more...

dmv.ny.gov

 

[Twogunwilly]

I'm only registering my slower sled and that goes 95 or so.