Syracuse police chief on Armory Square murder: 'No one should ever bring a gun into a bar'

[Dr. Evil]

Syracuse police chief on Armory Square murder: 'No one should ever bring a gun into a bar'

Sorry chief, not buying it. I'm sure the number of folks that carry in a bar and don't do something stupid is more than this one incident. Those obviously never make the news because nothing happens. The old "if it would just save one life" has been played out too many times. I am also tired of those that want to make laws for everyone because of the idiots among us.

 

[NYGuns]

Does that include the officers responding to the call ?

 

[GOPerfect]

"I'm saying to you, legal or illegal, no one should bring a weapon into a bar," Fowler said. "What is the point of that? If you feel that an establishment is so dangerous where you need to carry a weapon, the wise thing is to do is, what? Don't go there! It's really that simple."

I wish this was the case in all areas of our society. Seriously, I want nothing more than to live in a World where the need to self protect is not needed.

It is not safe in our schools, not safe to drive our roads. The mall? Nope, don't think so. Shootings happen all around us. There is evil everywhere.

Until I can have a guarantee that all places I go are safe, I will carry a gun.

 

[Bananabandit]

Must be why hes Syracuse chief. Him and douche Miner think alike.

 

[Catskillkid]

Alcohol and guns don't mix well. I'll acknowledge that. But you don't necessarily need to be drinking in a bar, at least not an alcoholic beverage. So with that in mind, I say to all concealed carriers who wish to frequent bars, carry on.

Oh, and FU Syracuse Chief of Police Doucehbag. You have no right to dictate to any free citizen how they should live their life or how they decide to protect it.

 

[Uzi]

I don't frequent bars very often because they tend to attract some of the stupidest idiots around, but I sure as hell will be carrying if I do.

 

[Celt]

Drinking and carrying might not be the smartest idea, but to each his own and its not my place to dictate what another free man can do. Its not this chiefs place either, so stfu chief!

 

[rpf427]

"I'm saying to you, legal or illegal, no one should bring a weapon into a bar," Fowler said. "What is the point of that? If you feel that an establishment is so dangerous where you need to carry a weapon, the wise thing is to do is, what? Don't go there! It's really that simple."

I wish this was the case in all areas of our society. Seriously, I want nothing more than to live in a World where the need to self protect is not needed.

It is not safe in our schools, not safe to drive our roads. The mall? Nope, don't think so. Shootings happen all around us. There is evil everywhere.

Until I can have a guarantee that all places I go are safe, I will carry a gun.

Perfectly stated.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

I have been carrying in bars forever.

FWIW a couple of years ago ny passed a law that basically said they can charhe you with "carrying while intoxicated " if u r over the legal limit....

How fucked is that?

 

[Cavalry]

FWIW a couple of years ago ny passed a law that basically said they can charhe you with "carrying while intoxicated " if u r over the legal limit....

There is a hunting while intoxicated law, and there were some bills for CWI maybe 4 years ago but I didn't think it became law?

 

[Criticalt]

As long as people are being shot in malls and schools, ill be carrying everywhere, signs or not.
That said, I don't go to bars.

 

[BerettaGuy]

First of all he is a Police Chief. Therefore he is Political. He is also in NY. Political in NY means you had better be a flaming liberal or else.
Here we go.
I smell legislation. I am totally amazed at how many of you have swallowed the indoctrination.

Define a "bar". Apple by's Friday's any other Restaurant?

They will take this incident of a licensed gun owner to jamb through legislation watch and see.
Think of the Smoking thing. First it was Restaurants then bars now everywhere.
They will use the same tactic on you and I with CCW, trust me, and half you you will help them do it in the end.

Guess what, in the end, they still ain't gonna like you.

 

[togmaster]

I have been carrying in bars forever.

FWIW a couple of years ago ny passed a law that basically said they can charhe you with "carrying while intoxicated " if u r over the legal limit....

How fucked is that?

Looking at some of my targets lately you might think I was drunk.

 

[wizrd]

No one should be in Syracuse -- without being armed....just saying.

 

[1911guy]

No one should be in Syracuse -- without being armed....just saying.

Add Syracuse, Utica, Rochester, Buf........... Oh Hell. Everywhere!

 

[FCG LLC]

(troll alert)...When I go to bars, I try to limit my drinking so I don't get impaired, as I usually end up being the designated driver.
If the law allows, I always carry.

I can honestly say I have NEVER been tempted to drink to intoxication while I've been carrying - I've always been able to hold that line.

Since I've never drank booze, and don't plan on starting now - never been tempted, never been impaired by liquor. Will they prohibit me from carrying because the liquor might jump off the shelf and pour itself down my throat just like my gun might get maniacal and start shooting at random without notice?

 

[rpf427]

(troll alert)...When I go to bars, I try to limit my drinking so I don't get impaired, as I usually end up being the designated driver.
If the law allows, I always carry.

I can honestly say I have NEVER been tempted to drink to intoxication while I've been carrying - I've always been able to hold that line.

Since I've never drank booze, and don't plan on starting now - never been tempted, never been impaired by liquor. Will they prohibit me from carrying because the liquor might jump off the shelf and pour itself down my throat just like my gun might get maniacal and start shooting at random without notice?

You never know.
Just like those bad guns....just cant trust them. Ask FUAC and Schmucky. They will back me up.

 

[Truebeliever]

Honestly back in the day, I would drink like a college kid with my coworkers after work. But it was a different time. Now, I rarely drink but will still carry at a bar. Even if the place is safe, getting there and back might not be.

I would recommend that the designated driver carry while those who wish to drink more than a few, let him handle "security concerns" for the night

 

[Phauxtoe]

such a Stupid Comment!
as a teen i hung out with my dad a bar with his gun and Police buddies, the teens were the only ones not CCW!
never a shooting, ever. i guess all those guns nice guns!

 

[Snappo]

Never been into the bar scene. I don't really drink and it takes me hours to nurse one beer. I always pictured bars as either some sort of Hells Angels place, or on the opposite spectrum Cheers. Norm and Coach didn't carry and made it through 10 seasons; and going to a Sons of Anarchy bar seems like suicide even if you bring a belt fed Ma Deuce.

 

[Kwalsh]

i wonder if the chief has ever been to syracuse???? that place has become pretty sketchy