The 2A UNDER ATTACK & Here’s How Trump Can Fix The Problem

[JunkBoxFull]

The 2A UNDER ATTACK & Here's How Trump Can Fix The Problem | The Gateway Pundit | by Elijah Schaffer

Protecting 2A Means Keeping Firearms Affordable While we, the American people, appreciate President Trump’s efforts to address unfair global trade practices, us patriots are deeply concerned that the Administration may be overlooking an unintended consequence that will infringe on our 2nd amendment.

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[OwnTheRide]

Eh, this seems like a pretty weak argument. "2A is a right, so firearms or firearm parts should be excluded from tariffs" is a cop-out.

The whole point of tariffs is to bring manufacturing to home soil. If that means increased prices for a while, that's fine... it's a cost of implementing good policy. Seeking to exclude the items that we buy is somewhat hypocritical.

 

[spat]

If he wanted to really protect them, he would take the fact that gun ownership is a federally protected civil right serioualy and have the DOJ prosecute *any* state or local officials who violate it.

There's even a special federal statute to use when that is done "under color of law".

Don't fuck around with lawsuits about laws.

Just send some FBI or US Marshalls to arrest any prosecutor charging any of the unconstitutional statutes.

Give that a month or so, then start arresting police officers who make any arrests on any of those statutes.

And don't just arrest, prosecute, all the way. Long federal prison terms.

Same for any legislators who vote for any new laws that violate those rights. There's no exception in federal law or the constitution for state legislators.

Treat it the same way you would if they'd passed a law outlawing worship of Allah.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Eh, this seems like a pretty weak argument. "2A is a right, so firearms or firearm parts should be excluded from tariffs" is a cop-out.

The whole point of tariffs is to bring manufacturing to home soil. If that means increased prices for a while, that's fine... it's a cost of implementing good policy. Seeking to exclude the items that we buy is somewhat hypocritical.

Most people can`t afford to buy what is made here. To many people think they should make 30 to 40 bucks an hour making cheeseburgers. I can`t even imagine what things will cost after the tariffs are done. Anyone is foolish to think things will be cheaper to make in the USA after this.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

If he wanted to really protect them, he would take the fact that gun ownership is a federally protected civil right serioualy and have the DOJ prosecute *any* state or local officials who violate it.

There's even a special federal statute to use when that is done "under color of law".

Don't fuck around with lawsuits about laws.

Just send some FBI or US Marshalls to arrest any prosecutor charging any of the unconstitutional statutes.

Give that a month or so, then start arresting police officers who make any arrests on any of those statutes.

And don't just arrest, prosecute, all the way. Long federal prison terms.

Same for any legislators who vote for any new laws that violate those rights. There's no exception in federal law or the constitution for state legislators.

Treat it the same way you would if they'd passed a law outlawing worship of Allah.

100% ^^^^^^^^^

If trump was going to fix anything with the 2nd amendment, then why did he choose all these anti-gun people into his administration, again.

 

[spat]

Most people can`t afford to buy what is made here. To many people think they should make 30 to 40 bucks an hour making cheeseburgers. I can`t even imagine what things will cost after the tariffs are done. Anyone is foolish to think things will be cheaper to make in the USA after this.

It *will* be cheaper to make things in the US after this.

Cheaper than it used to be to make them in the US anyway.

Economies of scale and all, the more stuff we make here, the cheaper it is to make stuff here.

Maybe not quite as cheap as it is to make them in China.

But, the whole point of the tarrifs isn't to make consumer goods cheaper. It is to make them here, and in that respect they are working very well.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

It *will* be cheaper to make things in the US after this.

Cheaper than it used to be to make them in the US anyway.

Economies of scale and all, the more stuff we make here, the cheaper it is to make stuff here.

Maybe not quite as cheap as it is to make them in China.

But, the whole point of the tarrifs isn't to make consumer goods cheaper. It is to make them here, and in that respect they are working very well.

I`ll take your word for it spat. As of right now, i see a totally different (future) view of it, but i totally respect what you`re saying here. We can only hope all this shit works out for the better. I`m just not sure at the moment, who it works out for, better. Time will tell fer sure.

 

[RedBreast21]

The Constitution can be changed and it requires a very high bar to do it. Two-Thirds of the Senate and Three-Quarters of the states. That is the only path and one that ensures a super majority vote. Everything else is a violation of both the amendment and the process.

 

[Defilade]

Trump and all his political capital are numb to gun rights. We are a huge part of his base that has been shunned. Alot of his executive orders should be codified when you have alot of political capital. I guess we shall see come Midterms if Rinos can be nullified by a hopeful landslide.

 

[Defilade]

Trump and all his political capital are numb to gun rights. We are a huge part of his base that has been shunned. Alot of his executive orders should be codified when you have alot of political capital. I guess we shall see come Midterms if Rinos can be nullified by a hopeful landslide.

 

[Saltwater60]

All we need is the Trump majority on the Supreme Court to take up cases and actually rule on them instead of messing around and saying well next year. Take case, rules, set precedent and enforce it

 

[GOPerfect]

The 2A gas been in trouble since before the original ink was dried. Less than 30 days after the ratification, gun laws were being passed.

The 2A, the 1A and others are under constant attack, these attacks will not end, regardless of the president. In time, we will lose more and more of our Rights.

This will be due to the pathetic majority of Americans.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

The 2A gas been in trouble since before the original ink was dried. Less than 30 days after the ratification, gun laws were being passed.

The 2A, the 1A and others are under constant attack, these attacks will not end, regardless of the president. In time, we will lose more and more of our Rights.

This will be due to the pathetic majority of Americans.

 

[Grimscale]

If he wanted to really protect them, he would take the fact that gun ownership is a federally protected civil right serioualy and have the DOJ prosecute *any* state or local officials who violate it.

There's even a special federal statute to use when that is done "under color of law".

Don't fuck around with lawsuits about laws.

Just send some FBI or US Marshalls to arrest any prosecutor charging any of the unconstitutional statutes.

Give that a month or so, then start arresting police officers who make any arrests on any of those statutes.

And don't just arrest, prosecute, all the way. Long federal prison terms.

Same for any legislators who vote for any new laws that violate those rights. There's no exception in federal law or the constitution for state legislators.

Treat it the same way you would if they'd passed a law outlawing worship of Allah.

The only change to this would be to arrest the politicians who voted for it immediately, THEN go after those who would follow those statutes and prosecute/arrest due to them.
Lop the head off first. Then it's easier to deal with the body. (figuratively speaking! I'm not advocating for beheading any politician. Death should be a reward, not a punishment.)

 

[Zerex]

With an estimated 450 million guns, in the hands of Americans right now, we are in a real fucking crisis for sure.

 

[Saltwater60]

With an estimated 450 million guns, in the hands of Americans right now, we are in a real fucking crisis for sure.

Just wait until Obama gets a forth term and uses the national guard to come and take em.

 

[GOPerfect]

On this point, you guys ever think of this, I mean deeply think about it?

What happens when they come a take the guns from Americans?

How many gun owners will really stick up and stand up to federal agents that come and take them?

I know many will say, "hell yeah... out of my cold dead hands"...

I say BS to that. I do wonder though, how many have come up with a back up plan if this ever becomes a reality?

 

[Grimscale]

On this point, you guys ever think of this, I mean deeply think about it?

What happens when they come a take the guns from Americans?

How many gun owners will really stick up and stand up to federal agents that come and take them?

I know many will say, "hell yeah... out of my cold dead hands"...

I say BS to that. I do wonder though, how many have come up with a back up plan if this ever becomes a reality?

I often wonder how likely it is that the military will fracture if a clearly un-Constitutional order like this is made.
The military is a volunteer organization.
I predict at least half will walk away, many even taking the weapons and equipment they regularly use with them.

 

[zorro]

On this point, you guys ever think of this, I mean deeply think about it?

What happens when they come a take the guns from Americans?

How many gun owners will really stick up and stand up to federal agents that come and take them?

I know many will say, "hell yeah... out of my cold dead hands"...

I say BS to that. I do wonder though, how many have come up with a back up plan if this ever becomes a reality?

I agree with this point 100%

I am currently at our cabin - well into the woods with a load of other cabins

99% are Republican gun owners………with numerous weapons of every type

We have regular discussions on this topic after several beers around the campfire

They all say exactly the same thing……..if an order was ever enacted to confiscate AR’15’s by force on a National scale

“They will never take my guns other than out of my cold dead hands”

These are all working guys, mostly good paying jobs, married, some with younger kids

Are they really going to get into a gun fight with the Feds or the National Guard or anyone for that matter if the government turns up one day to confiscate their guns

Sorry, I just don’t think that would happen in the majority of cases and believe that would be replicated across the country

You will ALWAYS get pockets of resistance either individually or in “militia” set ups………….but across 340million (or so) citizens, I believe that would be a very small minority, quickly put down by the Government

Just my view and could be totally wrong and we end up in Civil War!!