The calorie game.

[Curmudgeon]

From another thread....

How many calories do you need to survive? For a month? For a year?

A pound of rice, on average has 685 calories. A pound of beans on average has 580 calories. Flour has about 1650 calories per pound.

So if you have a pound of each, you have 2915 calories. Let's say you have double the flour and then you have 4565 calories.

Let's say you're more prepared and you have 10x that, then you have 45,650 calories.

Add in 50 cans of veggies. Let's go calorie heavy, say beets with 140 calories per can. Now you have 52,650 calories.

What's the least you can get by on?

Let's guess the bare minimum is 1000 calories per day per person. I'm not sure but guessing you're not going to thrive on that amount. That gives you 52.7 person says worth of calories.

If you have a family of 4, you have 13 days worth of food assuming 1000 calories per day per person; which I'm guessing is way sub-optimal. Add in extra manual labor and you're fucked.

Am I right?

 

[Curmudgeon]

Now let's assume 2000 calories per day per person. That's 8000 calories per day.

Essentially, that's 2# of rice, 2# of beans and 2# of flour per day.

That makes a month of food for a family of 4 60# of each, or 1800# total.

Yeah?

 

[Doc8404]

Throw in some olive oil or other shelf stable fats.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Throw in some olive oil or other shelf stable fats.

1 bottle of olive oil is about 8000 calories. Another day for our family of four.

No attention to fats, protein, carb ratios. No attention to vitamins or minerals.

The point I'm trying to make is that you need a metric shit ton of calories. I wonder if most of us know what we truly have and how it long it lasts vs. staying fed and healthy.

 

[GOPerfect]

Good examples. When I was on this diet of mine the past month and a half, I had an everyday caloric intake of 920 calories and I felt more than fine.

Much of it is based upon the activities of the day.

 

[Bananabandit]

Ill die when Im ready. Ill be damned if Ill count calories...

..but around 35,620

 

[Acer-m14]

who made this calorie number

 

[Doc8404]

1 bottle of olive oil is about 8000 calories. Another day for our family of four.

No attention to fats, protein, carb ratios. No attention to vitamins or minerals.

The point I'm trying to make is that you need a metric shit ton of calories. I wonder if most of us know what we truly have and how it long it lasts vs. staying fed and healthy.

agreed.
good idea to use free apps to better understand now, sooner than later.

 

[repete]

Good examples. When I was on this diet of mine the past month and a half, I had an everyday caloric intake of 920 calories and I felt more than fine.

Much of it is based upon the activities of the day.

920!! Damn thats starvation in the mid -long term.
About a year or two ago I tried a little experiment at my camp. I spent three days there working cutting brush, firewood, splitting ect. and eat three meals of different Mt. House freeze dried stuff, food was pretty good and very easy to prepare and somewhat filling but I quickly found out that it didn't "stick to my ribs"! I would be hungry fairly quickly. I would defiantly be losing weight in that type of scenario.
The average recommended intake is 2,000 calories per day BUT in a SHTF situation you would be working hard (as I was) and or traveling and that burns calories if it's cold hot then you need even more calories to maintain body heat.
I'm not sure but I think the OP is a bit light on the calories in the food listed.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

... I would defiantly be losing weight in that type of scenario.
The average recommended intake is 2,000 calories per day...

Don't be that way. Many people would gladly welcome a little weight loss. Just let it go.

 

[Criticalt]

You may be surprised how your body can become accustomed to less calories.
In my college days I spent alot of time in te deep wilderness.
One time spending almost 2 years in the Brooks Range in Northern Alaska.
We ate less than 1000 calories a day while I not only worked on my project but chopped all firewood, hunted for food, gathered and processed water daily.....and much more.
The first 2 weeks were an adjustment, ten I felt strong and full of energy.
You would be shocked to know how little most mountain people eat.
The human body is amazing.
I was never more healthy than the day I came home from 2 years in Alaska.

 

[livingston]

The Average Soldier
According to historian Bell I. Wiley, who pioneered the study of the Civil War common soldier, the average Yank or Reb was a 'white, native-born, farmer, protestant, single, between 18 and 29. ' He stood about 5 feet 8 inches tall and weighed about 143 pounds.

Civil War Soldiers - HistoryNet
Diet was a bit limited for the common folk

 

[Steal2B]

You may be surprised how your body can become accustomed to less calories.
In my college days I spent alot of time in te deep wilderness.
One time spending almost 2 years in the Brooks Range in Northern Alaska.
We ate less than 1000 calories a day while I not only worked on my project but chopped all firewood, hunted for food, gathered and processed water daily.....and much more.
The first 2 weeks were an adjustment, ten I felt strong and full of energy.
You would be shocked to know how little most mountain people eat.
The human body is amazing.
I was never more healthy than the day I came home from 2 years in Alaska.

Hard to believe how long during wrestling seasons over several years I survived on one hard-boiled egg in the morning, one orange mid-day, a sandwich bag of raw carrots or broccoli or celery or string beans before ptactice and a small lean steak for dinner. With the pre-practice road work, practice, and post practice weight room work I still don't see how it was possible.