Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
No shit. Welcome aboard and we will take anyone who is a good representative of the 2a. https://www.thecut.com/2022/02/rise-of-black-female-gun-owners.html
The face of gun ownership is changing.
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Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
On a number of trips this past year to the Erie County permit office a number of new applicants were minority women business owners applying for permits. They were advised to NOT apply for a premises permit and to apply for the full carry permit since they would probably carry cash for deposit. My only hope is they hook up with a local range and learn to operate and shoot the damn things. I work with a couple of my wife's friends and the learning curve is steep. They're interested and serious and need some serious experience.
S&W Fan
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I’m not sure that this is really All that new, maybe it’s just being reported on more so now. Over the last 25 years I’ve taught more than a dozen young girls , female friends and a couple of older women how to shoot and shoot proficiently with both rifles and hand guns. More than a half doz. of those went on to apply for and receive their pistol permits, All carry concealed without restrictions.
ManualF150
.308 Win
This is what I like to see. Very good!
RedBreast21
.223 Rem
I have ....lets say a good amount of experience showing and guiding new shooters both male and female in many disciplines of pistol and long arms craft. When it comes to the "new shooter" I'll take a female student every time over a male. Men think because they have a *&^%, the weapon is simple an extension of it and they're experts. lol
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FRANKIE
.308 Win
Jcp123
.357 mag
I gotta say...
...I’m not comfortable with commentary on minorities and/or females getting on the gun train. It’s nice to see, but from my view those traits are irrelevant. People are people and we pretty much want the same thing.
Now that’s not what makes me uncomfortable. What makes me uncomfortable is that we all walk on eggshells to where everybody feels obligated to talk about their “oppressed” friend who’s doing this or that which bucks some stereotype.
I’m going to be glad when we get past all that nonsense and we just approach things as humans doing human things, rather than saying it’s exceptional for this group or another to engage in something. But at this rate, it might not be in my lifetime.
...I’m not comfortable with commentary on minorities and/or females getting on the gun train. It’s nice to see, but from my view those traits are irrelevant. People are people and we pretty much want the same thing.
Now that’s not what makes me uncomfortable. What makes me uncomfortable is that we all walk on eggshells to where everybody feels obligated to talk about their “oppressed” friend who’s doing this or that which bucks some stereotype.
I’m going to be glad when we get past all that nonsense and we just approach things as humans doing human things, rather than saying it’s exceptional for this group or another to engage in something. But at this rate, it might not be in my lifetime.
Usually Women are much easier to teach, when it comes to guns. They don’t normally have bad habits to overcome.
However, somewhere around 1999 I was shooting at the Kitzingen Rod and Gun club range when a couple joined me on the range. She was a nurse who needed to qualify in a week and was trying to get in some practice. I don’t know what her husband did, but he was no gun expert. I noticed when she was tired she would drop her arms and swing the gun back and forth with her finger in the trigger guard. Good thing I was almost done practicing because I began to pack up.
He came over and said, “you seem to know what you are doing, can you help my wife? She needs to qualify next week.” Being the Senior NCO I was I could not let this officer fall on her face without trying to educate her. So I agreed. The first things I addressed was her lack of muzzle control, her lack trigger discipline and how to properly rest with a weapon in your hands (low ready). I got her on target and shooting well in about 30 minutes. Well about 10 minutes later she drops her arm, swings the gun backwards and discharged it. The round landed 2 inches in front of my right foot. While maintaining my professional composure, I stated, “Ma’am can I please have the weapon?” She handed it to me, I unloaded it, handed it to her husband and said, “ I cannot help you.” Then I walked off the range and reported the incident to the range master on duty. I should have paid closer attention to my guiding principles than my NCO instincts.
“No good deed goes unpunished.” Words to live by and my guiding principles for almost 50 years.
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Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Never happen it’s too popular right now. It’s everywhere and most are onboard with it. Diversity, equity, and inclusion is so popular right now I can’t escape it. Talk to anyone that works for any large company and it’s being shoved down their throats as a mandate.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
While teaching my son to shoot he couldn’t hit the target with my pistol and I knew he was anticipating the recoil so I told him about it and he improved slightly. What I did was the third round I loaded a spent casing in and told him now do you see how much you’re moving the gun before the round goes off? He saw his errors and hit the black ring every time from then on.
I’ve been around dumbasses and some are my daily. My nephew has some issues and is not all there mentally. At 7 or so my dad asked me to teach him to shoot and I refused for safety reasons. My dad let him shoot a BB gun and within 20-30 seconds he was looking down the barrel of said gun. I have my dad a .22 and 50 rounds to take care of some pests at his property and he informed me he let that same nephew shoot all 50 rounds and asked for more ammo. I said sorry it’s super expensive and hard to find I don’t have anymore to spare. I’ve got plenty to play with, but I’m not being held liable sorry.
Jcp123
.357 mag
Diversity is a big thing for me; I don’t feel as comfortable in homogeneous settings as I do in well-mixed ones, just because of where I grew up; except for precious few areas, you weren’t likely to be anything more than a plurality of any demographic grouping. But it was organic diversity and it worked well, where forcing it causes friction.
It’s 2022, so it shouldn’t be big news that gender or race is playing an ever smaller role in who’s getting guns. For that matter, I was seeing a lot of truck drivers, and am now seeing a lot of auto techs who buck the traditional stereotypes of who does these jobs. All this stuff is changing on its own, and I think that’s for the better.
Maybe news like this keeps that train rolling, and if so, kudos. But maybe I’m biased, because I don’t quite feel this is newsworthy? I’m confident and doubtful at the same time.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Maybe we should start a go fund me to pay for training for new gun owners.
The training organizations can't affort to give away their product for free, but if a lot of people kicked in $10 of $20 we could arrange to pay for enough to meet the demand.
I think that could be an excellent prospect. New gun owners get good professional training. The training organizations get business, and the rest of us improve the image of gunowners since the new people will do less stupid stuff, and we all get a safer society.
New gun owners are not the only people who do stupid shit with their guns.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Oh, I'm under no illusions that this would eliminate stupid shit. But it could significantly reduce the amount of it coming from one common source.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I agree with your last paragraph and that’s part of the reason why I posted it. I feel like we already knew this was happening and we(most) were all fine with it. I took my permit class 7-8 years ago and I would say many of the people attending were women or minorities. I took a live fire class and a 76 year old women was taking it using a .38 special revolver. We all cheered for her and Abdul over that she was there.