Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
I'm not a fan of tube feed reloading. Still it's a lever action speed shooting.
The lever action as a self-defense gun.
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I'm not a fan of tube feed reloading. Still it's a lever action speed shooting.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
PS: It's not the rifleman it's the rifle.
It's nice to have a crapload of ammo, useless if you can't put it on target.
It's nice to have a crapload of ammo, useless if you can't put it on target.
@thewheels
.308 Win
In the last video, I think I see the loop with some kind of wrap on it. Maybe not, but I think that's the key to running one fast and efficient.
I've shot Henrys, Marlins, Rossis, Brownings and Winchesters and one Winchester in particular had an action that was buttery smooth and cycled like nothing else. Still, running that specimen for fast followups would be even better with a leather wrap IMO.
I might even try some of the rubber tool dip stuff on the loop to save my mitts in a stressful HD event.
I've shot Henrys, Marlins, Rossis, Brownings and Winchesters and one Winchester in particular had an action that was buttery smooth and cycled like nothing else. Still, running that specimen for fast followups would be even better with a leather wrap IMO.
I might even try some of the rubber tool dip stuff on the loop to save my mitts in a stressful HD event.
S&W Fan
.450/400 Nitro Ex
A lot of cowboy action shooters have leather wrapped levers for that very reason. I purchased some soft deer Skin leather and made my own Wrap for my Rossi .44 mag. Lever gun. If you search fleabay you should be able to find kits already made up to wrap the lever.
shootemup
.45 acp
Did this on my Henry .357 Big Boy. It's got the big loop which i love being i have bear paws, but it does cushion the knuckles/back of hand when rapid fire. Waiting for the case hardened side loader Henry.......be so nice to top off w/o the tube. Also Skinner peep sights for the win!!!
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
In defensive training we practice how to shoot wrapons with one hand both left and right hand. We do this both with pistol and carbine even if the carbine is less than ideal it can be done with support from the shoulder and forearm, like if one of the hands ia badly injured.
We also train how to safely reloadnwith one hand.
For this and other reasons only reliable semiautimatic firearms are considered.
I dont see anything wrong with practicing with other guns but in most instances will not be considered as serious defensive choices and why professionals also donkot use them.
I think they have a place as a ranch / woods type of gun for defense against animals and hunting too.
We also train how to safely reloadnwith one hand.
For this and other reasons only reliable semiautimatic firearms are considered.
I dont see anything wrong with practicing with other guns but in most instances will not be considered as serious defensive choices and why professionals also donkot use them.
I think they have a place as a ranch / woods type of gun for defense against animals and hunting too.
Fightingfish
.40 S&W
I mean, I’d rather have my side loading Henry 30/30 than a handful of rocks. I fact, I think it’d be downright terrifying from the wrong end. But I’d still feel much more confident with a semi auto if I had the luxury of choosing.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And even for ranch and woods, there are still better options out there. I do not understand old people. They will upgrade their hand tools and power tools to the latest and greatest. Ones that are more efficient but when it comes to guns, they will choose outdated designs and fight tooth and nail with anyone about them.
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meketrefe
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Yes nobody would argue with that, a firearm is a firearm. Also imagine if one was in the revolutionary war and instead of a muzzle loader you had that Henry 30/30, one would be like a fire-breathing God.
People just need to think that if there are the type of threats that might fire back at you, you have to analyze this pragmatically and with realistic situations in mind.
The spoon is best to eat the soup no matter how much we like the fork.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Some people have probably decided that now is the time to arm up, because they never thought they'd need to, but now they've seen riots they never could have imagined happening in places just like they live.
Now they go down to the big box gun store and the shelves are picked clean.
That 30-30 lever action might be the best thing left that they can find both a gun and ammo for and take home tonight.
If they're in that circumstance, the lever action *is* the best HD gun.
The single most important quality in a HD gun is that it is available when you need it.
Now they go down to the big box gun store and the shelves are picked clean.
That 30-30 lever action might be the best thing left that they can find both a gun and ammo for and take home tonight.
If they're in that circumstance, the lever action *is* the best HD gun.
The single most important quality in a HD gun is that it is available when you need it.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Imagine some Antifa rioters break into your house and you grab your phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range
Leave a softball sided hole through the chest of the first guy and remove the second guys arm with the first shot. Battery reads 9999 shots left
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
I believe a gun collection sould be greater than the capacity of one safe.
I believe there is always room for a lever gun or two as well as a 50 BMG bolt action long range precision rifle.... just saying.
I believe there is always room for a lever gun or two as well as a 50 BMG bolt action long range precision rifle.... just saying.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Threads like this bring back childhood memories and want lists.
Before you play the video ... How many shots did Chuck Connors get off before the theme music started on the opening of The Rifleman?
Before you play the video ... How many shots did Chuck Connors get off before the theme music started on the opening of The Rifleman?
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
I love my '65 Winchester 1894, it was a gift from my FiL and my first deer rifle (though I never got the chance to fire it at a deer and have moved on to better for me options).
It does not fill an HD/SD role for me because it does not have to.
It does not fill an HD/SD role for me because it does not have to.
Target
6.5 Creedmoor
I would not hesitate to use a lever action carbine as a HD/ SD firearm. I don't see it being much worse than some neutered / fixed mag rifles or pump shotguns.
I'd prefer standard capacity sidearms or rifles, but due to our circumstances, it'd work.
On a side note, in the 2nd video ( Lever action vs Tactical Carbine course) , I liked the guy's hat so much, I bought one .
I'd prefer standard capacity sidearms or rifles, but due to our circumstances, it'd work.
On a side note, in the 2nd video ( Lever action vs Tactical Carbine course) , I liked the guy's hat so much, I bought one .
Marlin 57 M 22 magnum 15 rds ( NYS legal )
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
I'd rock it, if it were the first thing available. Didn't someone once say the first rule of a gunfight is to have a gun? Fits the bill...
(Variously attributed to Massad Ayoob and Jeff Cooper)
(Variously attributed to Massad Ayoob and Jeff Cooper)
S&W Fan
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I’d hunt with that Winchester in a heart beat. There’s nothing more enjoyable than challenging yourself hunting with nostalgic hunting equipment. During the regular season I’ll often go out With just a .44 mag. Wheel gun. Like hunting with traditional archery equipment you need to hone your hunting skills when using less modern equipment.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Back in MUCH younger days, my girlfriend's father gave me a Winchester 9422M to use for a while. Awesome little rifle. Expensive as hell now.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
If a lever was all I had, than I’d rock it. But I would not pick it over a Mini 14. Fightlite SCR, or a featureless AR with a Thordsen stock if I was in the market for a self defense long gun.
That’s like me picking a car over a truck to haul bags of sand. Sure it can do it, but with limitations. Use the right tool for the job if you have access to it. Don’t pick a tool that could kind of do it when the right tool is available. Why strip a flathead screw using a smaller screw driver when you can use the right size?
That’s like me picking a car over a truck to haul bags of sand. Sure it can do it, but with limitations. Use the right tool for the job if you have access to it. Don’t pick a tool that could kind of do it when the right tool is available. Why strip a flathead screw using a smaller screw driver when you can use the right size?
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
I dont disagree with this and I didnt mean to sidetrack the thread (and probably should've explained in my original post)- in that same trip to MI, all we had were buck tags and we saw does only all two weeks.
Since that year, we have been doing deer season here, which is a no rifle county, so have moved to shotgun / crossbow / muzzle.
Back on topic, here if I need a long gun I am going to a featureless AR or a a mag fed 308 scout rifle depending where I am in the house at the time.
Vapor
.308 Win
They work for certain applications. Generally, they are faster for most people than a bolt action. Side loading helps with top offs.
Pistol caliber versions still pack a hell of a wallop and usually hold the SAFE act ten. A 158 grain .357 out of a 20" barrel is pushing 2000 fps and close to 1,200 ft lbs. Nothing to laugh at.
They have draw backs too. Complexity, can't check a loaded chamber without ejecting the case on some, and usually have sharp edges when loading, among others.
Still, I like em.
Pistol caliber versions still pack a hell of a wallop and usually hold the SAFE act ten. A 158 grain .357 out of a 20" barrel is pushing 2000 fps and close to 1,200 ft lbs. Nothing to laugh at.
They have draw backs too. Complexity, can't check a loaded chamber without ejecting the case on some, and usually have sharp edges when loading, among others.
Still, I like em.
fnfalguy
.308 Win
I find that they have a place in the safe.
Lever action rifles has been used for home defense/ self defense since 1866. Many folks across this country still use a lever action rifle for hunting, ranching, home/self defense.
Lever actions has been one of my favorite rifles. I own quite a few in various calibers. But if I was to pick something for self defense I would go with a AR15- holds more rds & quicker reload. (next would be a Rem. 870). Just my preference.
Lever actions has been one of my favorite rifles. I own quite a few in various calibers. But if I was to pick something for self defense I would go with a AR15- holds more rds & quicker reload. (next would be a Rem. 870). Just my preference.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Yeah in this sense it is damn good. Just not as good as mcloskey with an AR
that dude in the last vid was impressive.
Vapor
.308 Win
The .30-30 is decently powerful, handy, and light recoiling. Powerful enough at close range to keep you safe from some pretty big animals with 170 grain bullets. Will put down a moose within 150 yards. A good back country truck gun. My family can't seem to keep a 170 in a deer. I mean, a big, 200lbs field dressed buck shot front ways through the chest and the bullet exited out of his keister and kept going. Low velocity + heavy bullet means deep penetration.
I want more. Maybe a .35 someday.
A .44 mag is a nice option too. Pretty good stomper at close range.
A .357 I view as another all around gun. .38s are great for teaching small stature women and kids. You can also take rabbits and such with .38s. With .357 you have a defensive option and a deer rifle with 100 yards with a 10 round capacity.
I like them for truck/surivial options. Handy, short, and more capable on animals than 5.56.
I want more. Maybe a .35 someday.
A .44 mag is a nice option too. Pretty good stomper at close range.
A .357 I view as another all around gun. .38s are great for teaching small stature women and kids. You can also take rabbits and such with .38s. With .357 you have a defensive option and a deer rifle with 100 yards with a 10 round capacity.
I like them for truck/surivial options. Handy, short, and more capable on animals than 5.56.
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Trying to control the urge to buy one of the new Henry Big Boy X Model in 357/38 to pair with my 357 Ruger revolver.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Is that a side gate on a Henry .357? I need to catch up on my reading.
Fightingfish
.40 S&W
Oooh, sign me up for one in 45-70!