Things are heating up between the US and Iran thread

[C3D]

After the US-Houthi strikes of yesterday and concurrently with Israel's airstrikes in Gaza, the Saudi news is reporting that this morning local time the US Navy sank Iran's most advanced naval vessel.

If so that marks a significant escalation and the targeting of this spy ship is likely a prelude to further action.

Iranian spy vessel believed to be sunk by US

Iranian reconnaissance ship Zagros was targeted and sunk by United States forces in the Red Sea, according to Saudi media outlet Al-Hadath. The Iranian naval intelligence ship specializes in signals ...

breakingthenews.net

Stay tuned . . .

 

[Jmac00]

sounds like the world is about to go to shit in a hand basket....

 

[spat]

Someone needs to send this video to the current leaders of Iran to remind them what FAFO looks like with a strong American president in office.

 

[holdover]

The Iranian ship was sunk in the red sea, My guess is that it was supplying targeting information to the Hooties under an Iranian flag

Col Doug McGreggor tweeted 3 carriers on route




Iran-backed Houthi terrorists launch a massive retaliation strike on the USS Harry S. Truman.

Just hours after President Trump authorized powerful military action to restore American deterrence in the region, the emboldened Houthis fired 18 ballistic and cruise missiles along with a drone attack, vowing to escalate against all U.S. warships in the Red Sea and Arabian Sea.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made an appearance on “Sunday Morning Futures” with Maria Bartiromo, hammering home the clear message to America’s adversaries: the era of appeasement is over.

“An era of peace through strength is back,” Hegseth said.

“We are sitting on four years of deferred maintenance from Joe Biden, where in particular when you talk about the Houthis, they were allowed for over a hundred times to shoot at US ships, to shoot at commercial shipping,” Hegseth continued.

“This campaign is about freedom of navigation and restoring deterrence. The minute the Houthis say, we will stop shooting at your ships, we will stop shooting at your drones, this campaign will end, but until then, it will be unrelenting,” Hegseth warned.

Yemen’s Houthis Retaliate with Massive Attack on US Aircraft Carrier USS Harry Truman with 18 Ballistic Missiles and Drone — Vow to Target All U.S. Warships in Red Sea and Arabian Sea | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

In a bold escalation, Yemen’s Houthis launched a significant attack on the USS Harry S. Truman, threatening U.S. warships in the region. President Trump’s military response marks a pivotal moment in ongoing tensions.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

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If an attack on Iran is being considered, then the straights of Yeman and the Red sea must be secured for freedom of movement . I wouldnt be shocked to see an attack on Iranian assets in Syria by US or Israel shortly .

 

[spat]

The Iranian ship was sunk in the red sea, My guess is that it was supplying targeting information to the Hooties under an Iranian flag

Col Doug McGreggor tweeted 3 carriers on route




Iran-backed Houthi terrorists launch a massive retaliation strike on the USS Harry S. Truman.

Just hours after President Trump authorized powerful military action to restore American deterrence in the region, the emboldened Houthis fired 18 ballistic and cruise missiles along with a drone attack, vowing to escalate against all U.S. warships in the Red Sea and Arabian Sea.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made an appearance on “Sunday Morning Futures” with Maria Bartiromo, hammering home the clear message to America’s adversaries: the era of appeasement is over.

“An era of peace through strength is back,” Hegseth said.

“We are sitting on four years of deferred maintenance from Joe Biden, where in particular when you talk about the Houthis, they were allowed for over a hundred times to shoot at US ships, to shoot at commercial shipping,” Hegseth continued.

“This campaign is about freedom of navigation and restoring deterrence. The minute the Houthis say, we will stop shooting at your ships, we will stop shooting at your drones, this campaign will end, but until then, it will be unrelenting,” Hegseth warned.

Yemen’s Houthis Retaliate with Massive Attack on US Aircraft Carrier USS Harry Truman with 18 Ballistic Missiles and Drone — Vow to Target All U.S. Warships in Red Sea and Arabian Sea | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

In a bold escalation, Yemen’s Houthis launched a significant attack on the USS Harry S. Truman, threatening U.S. warships in the region. President Trump’s military response marks a pivotal moment in ongoing tensions.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Yes, because firing ballistic missiles at US capital ships is always a good idea.

Imagine the shit storm if they actually hit one and killed some sailors.

 

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Not sure what your saying there.

The shit storm is still coming , it just didnt get there yet.

 

[Criticalt]

Orrrrrr, we could just leave the area and let them all kill each other.
Sorry, this just comes from someone who spent a lot of time in the Middle East and talked to countless citizens who were just as clueless about their government's actions as most Americans are about our government's actions. They just want to live in peace and take care of their families. But, the absolutely are not allowed to voice those opinions....so most Americans believe the citizens agree with their leaders.
Perfect example.........
This moron on youtube "The Yankee Marshall" says he will not buy a firearm made in Turkey, because they are terrorists. I met many Turkish soldiers and civilians in the Middle East, and THEY were not terrorists. They were dudes with families who worried about their families while they were away, just like we did.
But it's the same thing over there. The citizens in the ME judge all of us for the actions of our government. To them, WE are terrorists.
The only militaries where everyone truly agrees on killing and hating their enemies and completely agree with their leaders are ISIS and the Taliban as far as I could tell.

 

[holdover]

Orrrrrr, we could just leave the area and let them all kill each other.
Sorry, this just comes from someone who spent a lot of time in the Middle East and talked to countless citizens who were just as clueless about their government's actions as most Americans are about our government's actions. They just want to live in peace and take care of their families. But, the absolutely are not allowed to voice those opinions....so most Americans believe the citizens agree with their leaders.
Perfect example.........
This moron on youtube "The Yankee Marshall" says he will not buy a firearm made in Turkey, because they are terrorists. I met many Turkish soldiers and civilians in the Middle East, and THEY were not terrorists. They were dudes with families who worried about their families while they were away, just like we did.
But it's the same thing over there. The citizens in the ME judge all of us for the actions of our government. To them, WE are terrorists.
The only militaries where everyone truly agrees on killing and hating their enemies and completely agree with their leaders are ISIS and the Taliban as far as I could tell.

Well I agree with you mostly, But the Hooties cant just stop international trade and threaten who they want , fire on our ships at will. Its like some 13 year old street thug that just got a Glock , and is waving it around and shooting it at people . That shit has to stop.

 

[spat]

Orrrrrr, we could just leave the area and let them all kill each other.
Sorry, this just comes from someone who spent a lot of time in the Middle East and talked to countless citizens who were just as clueless about their government's actions as most Americans are about our government's actions. They just want to live in peace and take care of their families. But, the absolutely are not allowed to voice those opinions....so most Americans believe the citizens agree with their leaders.
Perfect example.........
This moron on youtube "The Yankee Marshall" says he will not buy a firearm made in Turkey, because they are terrorists. I met many Turkish soldiers and civilians in the Middle East, and THEY were not terrorists. They were dudes with families who worried about their families while they were away, just like we did.
But it's the same thing over there. The citizens in the ME judge all of us for the actions of our government. To them, WE are terrorists.
The only militaries where everyone truly agrees on killing and hating their enemies and completely agree with their leaders are ISIS and the Taliban as far as I could tell.

Estimates are that the houthies shenanigans are responsible for about 0.3% global inflation because they are increasing the cost of so much shipping.

That's averaged over all products anywhere, not just what sails by them.

So, it *does* affect you.

 

[C3D]

Very interesting that a half day later there are numerous unconfirmed reports of the sinking yet no official US or Iranian communication on the subject.

 

[CNYJohn]

Every worthless P.O.S president since Carter has had the chance to turn Iran into glass.
None of the jackoffs have done it
How many lives have been lost because of spineless jackoffs more worried about the international community instead of the American community.

Do it, do it right once, be done

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Top off your spare gas cans and vehicles... If this is accurate shit about to get dicey.

Also wouldn't shock me if we're about 1-2 escalation cycles away from sleeper cells going active.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

US Military Surveillance Aircraft Circling Iran Nuclear Power Plant

For several days, the United States has sent military surveillance aircraft into the Persian Gulf and they have taken up circling patterns near...

halturnerradioshow.com

 

[Criticalt]

Estimates are that the houthies shenanigans are responsible for about 0.3% global inflation because they are increasing the cost of so much shipping.

That's averaged over all products anywhere, not just what sails by them.

So, it *does* affect you.

I didn't say it didn't affect me, I just don't believe it's worth starting another 20+ year war that will cost us another 8 TRILLION dollars (estimated cost of the WOT). Maybe the nation's closer to the area that are more affected should band together and deal with it.
Just tired of dumping our blood over there, while politicians here "earn" 700x their paycheck every year on war profits.
Ive watched friends learn to walk on inferior prosthetic legs due to the "budget" while Mitch McConnell and Nancy Peloci make 600 million dollars and complain about the military expenditures, when THEY are the war mongers. Just saying.

 

[Zerex]

Iran also has Biological weapons, from development during Iran-Iraq WAR...............never destroyed .
them.
A little Ebola, or Smallpox release, might be planned.

 

[holdover]

Iran also has Biological weapons, from development during Iran-Iraq WAR...............never destroyed .
them.
A little Ebola, or Smallpox release, might be planned.

Please dont tell the democrats that, you'll give them Ideas.

 

[holdover]

I didn't say it didn't affect me, I just don't believe it's worth starting another 20+ year war that will cost us another 8 TRILLION dollars

It wont be a war in the general way, It would most likely be a strike against against Irans navy, airforce and nuclear sites , Not saying its not an act of war, but there will be no ground troops invadeing Iran, except maybe some sneaky Petes.

Im not for Attacking Iran myself, their beef is with Isreal , Thier beef with US is that we aid them and back them up .

Hootie and the pirates however, are causing real problems , that has to be addressed .

 

[spat]

It wont be a war in the general way, It would most likely be a strike against against Irans navy, airforce and nuclear sites , Not saying its not an act of war, but there will be no ground troops invadeing Iran, except maybe some sneaky Petes.

Im not for Attacking Iran myself, their beef is with Isreal , Thier beef with US is that we aid them and back them up .

Hootie and the pirates however, are causing real problems , that has to be addressed .

90% of the terrorist organizations in the middle east are essentially irregular arms of the Iranian military.

That's why Trump basically said that he's holding Iran responsible for what the Houthis do.

It's not like they're making their own missiles.

And when Iran gets all indignant about "200 civilians killed in US strikes", ask them what those 200 do for work.

If they work in a ballistic missile factory, I'm going to chalk that one up to FAFO.

 

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90% of the terrorist organizations in the middle east are essentially irregular arms of the Iranian military.

Wait, Back up. Thats not our fight. When iran closes down the straights of Hormuz and affects the oil trade then Ill jump on board with you . When they come to the US and attack us, Ill back you up on this. Otherwise they pose no threat to the US homeland , Fuck NATO, fuck Isreal Fuck Ukraine. they dont do spit for us except cost us a lot of money, How about we mind our own business ?

 

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90% of the terrorist organizations in the middle east are essentially irregular arms of the Iranian military.

Isreali propaganda, 90% of the terrorist organizations in the middle east buy weapons from Iran, that doesnt mean they areworking for Iran. thier interests converge , Most of the terrorists are hard core sunni radicals , You could say they are loosely working together , or with each other with common interests, but to say they are being controlled by Iran is total bullshit

 

[spat]

Isreali propaganda, 90% of the terrorist organizations in the middle east buy weapons from Iran, that doesnt mean they areworking for Iran. thier interests converge , Most of the terrorists are hard core sunni radicals , You could say they are loosely working together , or with each other with common interests, but to say they are being controlled by Iran is total bullshit

When you bomb Houthi missile sites and kill Iranian generals, I think they're more than just customers.

 

[spat]

Wait, Back up. Thats not our fight. When iran closes down the straights of Hormuz and affects the oil trade then Ill jump on board with you . When they come to the US and attack us, Ill back you up on this. Otherwise they pose no threat to the US homeland , Fuck NATO, fuck Isreal Fuck Ukraine. they dont do spit for us except cost us a lot of money, How about we mind our own business ?

They are literally bragging about shooting missiles at US warships.

And this started when they fired missiles at US flagged merchant vessels.

So, do we just ignore that ?

Sound like a great idea.


No, our problem is that we aren't aggressive enough in our responses.

Biden was all "proportional" this and "appropriate" that as if this was a negotiation.

Fuck that. *that's* how you get dragged into a multi decade war.

Trump is all "eliminate their ability to wage war". That's how you fix this.

 

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When you bomb Houthi missile sites and kill Iranian generals, I think they're more than just customers.

yep they're advisors. We have them in Ukraine.

 

[holdover]

They are literally bragging about shooting missiles at US warships.

And this started when they fired missiles at US flagged merchant vessels.

So, do we just ignore that ?

No of course not, But Iran didnt fire missiles at our ships recently as far as I know , for obvious reasons.

The hooties did, so Im all for carpet bombing them .

 

[spat]

yep they're advisors. We have them in Ukraine.

Probably not too many generals in combat units.

So, where are the Houthis and Hamas getting their funding ?

They are both directly controlled from Tehran.

 

[holdover]

Probably not too many generals in combat units.

So, where are the Houthis and Hamas getting their funding ?

They are both directly controlled from Tehran.

A bunch of High ranking NATO officers were trapped in Kursk , multiple times Russians struck HQ in Western Ukraine with NATO officers in them

Isreal gets its funding from the US doesnt mean We control Isreal , Im not saying they are not tied to each other to some extent , But to claim Iran is controlling every terrorist in the Mideast is ridiculous, as if peace will break out all across the mid east if Iran falls . Everyone in the mid east hates Isreal. they dont need any prodding by Iran , but their interests do converge about Isreal and they do work together to some extent , Iran has no problem selling them weapons and sending in advisors As far as control, you'd have to prove that to me.

 

[holdover]

And dont forget, Iran will have nuclear weapons in 6 months too.

 

[spat]

A bunch of High ranking NATO officers were trapped in Kursk , multiple times Russians struck HQ in Western Ukraine with NATO officers in them

Isreal gets its funding from the US doesnt mean We control Isreal , Im not saying they are not tied to each other to some extent , But to claim Iran is controlling every terrorist in the Mideast is ridiculous, as if peace will break out all across the mid east if Iran falls . Everyone in the mid east hates Isreal. they dont need any prodding by Iran , but their interests do converge about Isreal and they do work together to some extent , Iran has no problem selling them weapons and sending in advisors As far as control, you'd have to prove that to me.

Most of the rest of the middle east has gotten over their irrational hatred of Isreal.

They're not going to be best buddies anytime soon, but they recognize that the animosity isn't doing anyone any favors.

Egypt and the Saudis would be perfectly happy to take a "live and let live" relationship.

And if it really came down to an either or, I think they would pick Isreal over Iran, because they know who's a real threat to them.

The Saudis have been openly at war with the Houthis for a long time.

Hamas and their offshoots like Muslim Brotherhood have tried to overthrow most of the governments in the middle east. You're not getting Egypt or Jordan to take their side on anything.

If Gaza was still part of Egypt, you'd find out what a "Palestinian genocide" really looked like. And I'm pretty sure nobody would care.

 

[holdover]

Not sure what news your reading but the mideast is fucking fuming mad, Egypt has moved forces to its border , Isreal has moved its forces well inside of Syria on the out skirts of Damascus, The Turks are rageing mad Iran is mad Egypt is mad