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Things are heating up in the Donbass
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Russia-Ukraine live updates: Putin says war was ‘unleashed’ on Russia
Live updates on Russia's war in neighboring Ukraine.abcnews.go.com
I'm not sure if they're serious or just pandering.
This is ridiculous
Ahh, but first they would have to prove he removed the children.
I would more likely bet that the new world order removed the children for their own nefarious purposes.
prambo
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To Hell with Ukraine – Fred on Everything
"So let us thank the gods that we live in a democracy where the will of the people rules. Don’t ride the trains, drink the water, or need a doctor, and keep a comfortable pad handy because sidewalks are hard and get cold in winter. But we can be sure that Biden will send as much of our money to Ukraine as that dismal, trivial country wants. Are you grateful?"
"So let us thank the gods that we live in a democracy where the will of the people rules. Don’t ride the trains, drink the water, or need a doctor, and keep a comfortable pad handy because sidewalks are hard and get cold in winter. But we can be sure that Biden will send as much of our money to Ukraine as that dismal, trivial country wants. Are you grateful?"
holdover
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The Ukraines and Russians have obtained a serious amount of arms over the winter . the battle in spring or early summer will be larger than WW2 battles. One side or the other is going to end up broken by fall.
I feel bad for people on both sides . Neither side can quit, its a fight to the end
I feel bad for people on both sides . Neither side can quit, its a fight to the end
prambo
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The Gathering Storm - The American Conservative
"American national power is measured as much by American military capability as by economic potential and performance. The growing realization that American and European military-industrial capacity cannot keep up with Ukrainian demands for ammunition and equipment is an ominous signal to send during a proxy war that Washington insists its Ukrainian surrogate is winning."
"Far too many Americans believe they have had no real national leadership since January 21, 2021. It is high time the Biden administration found an off-ramp designed to extricate Washington, D.C., from its proxy Ukrainian war against Russia. It will not be easy. Liberal internationalism or, in its modern guise, “moralizing globalism,” makes prudent diplomacy arduous, but now is the time."
"American national power is measured as much by American military capability as by economic potential and performance. The growing realization that American and European military-industrial capacity cannot keep up with Ukrainian demands for ammunition and equipment is an ominous signal to send during a proxy war that Washington insists its Ukrainian surrogate is winning."
"Far too many Americans believe they have had no real national leadership since January 21, 2021. It is high time the Biden administration found an off-ramp designed to extricate Washington, D.C., from its proxy Ukrainian war against Russia. It will not be easy. Liberal internationalism or, in its modern guise, “moralizing globalism,” makes prudent diplomacy arduous, but now is the time."
FrankenCub
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Yes they are slower, no they aren't slower in manoverability. Slower "planes" can make more drastic moves in a much shorter distance. It's all aerodynamics.
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Just shut up!' Lindsey Graham clashes with audience member at South Carolina presidential forum over U.S. support for Ukraine: 'If you believe in family, stand up for families everywhere'
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Epstein's island closed up shop.
They probably needed to stock up the replacement.....
Damn, running low on tinfoil already....
Acer-m14
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gram flapping is lips while washing another load of laundry in Ukraine
NATO considering deployment of up to 300,000 troops on border with Russia
NATO is discussing the need to strengthen the eastern borders with Russia by concentrating equipment and a military contingent of up to 300,000 soldiers, which should prevent Russia from expanding the war beyond Ukraine.
I don't like this at all. This is mission creep
"Prevent the war from expanding beyond ukraine." More like guarantee world war 3. This is outrageous.NATO considering deployment of up to 300,000 troops on border with Russia
NATO is discussing the need to strengthen the eastern borders with Russia by concentrating equipment and a military contingent of up to 300,000 soldiers, which should prevent Russia from expanding the war beyond Ukraine.news.yahoo.com
I don't like this at all. This is mission creep
Agreed. I am disgusted at this. NATO is literally begging and looking for an excuse to join.
The smartest thing we can do is try to broker a peace deal but the war mongers won't allow it. They would rather have ww3 to try and maintain power and the USD as global reserve currency.
Its completely infuriating.
prambo
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And the creeps are leading the mission.
Sounds familiar...
"Oh man... the bullshit piled up so fast in Vietnam, you needed wings to stay above it." - Capt. Willard, "Apocalypse Now".
Quiet Part, Out Loud - Polish Ambassador Warns If Ukraine Not Successful NATO Will Join War Against Russia - The Last Refuge
"The exact quote: “either Ukraine will defend its independence today, or we will have to enter this conflict. Because our main values, which were the basis of our civilization, and our culture will be threatened. Therefore, we will have no choice but to enter the conflict.”
It ain't my culture and values, bitch.
PM Orbán: 'Europe suffers from war psychosis'
"The prime minister stressed that, unfortunately, Europe was suffering from a “war psychosis,” with the continent drifting further into war day by day."
I just double checked. That is accurate. The poles really did say that.
So we are now having multiple countries now all saying the same things. "Its an existential threat that "we, my side, my ally" wins this war or my countries survival is at stake and this is an existential threat.
That's so incredibly depressing because these countries are ALL talking themselves into corners they won't be able to get out of. Poland is a NATO state. This is shaping up exactly like an alliance before WW1 and WW2. Wtf you stupid dumbasses doesn't anyone pay attention to history.
You can't even negotiate with Putin for peace now because these virtue signaling asshats have an international arrest warrant out for him so scratch off any neutral site meeting.
The banks are failing.
Alliances are forming.
Countries are talking themselves into corners and all sides are trying to justify it and saying the same thing.
I hope everyone really knows what this means.
prambo
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I wouldn't count on it - with the world economy at least "appearing" to be circling the drain, the same morons who form the New Covidian/Vaxhole axis will support "total war" without a thought.
Of course none of those shitweasels, or their offspring, will be at the front.
With the obvious degradation, both morally and militarily, of fUSA.MIL I wouldn't be surprised to see the Selective Service ramp up "the draft".
That's a sure signal that the deep state/military-industrial-medical tyranny faction wants even more chaos.
All I see on the horizon is...
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holdover
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The one thing Russia will never do is quit. Its not even a thought in their minds. Its a little early to claim victory. the 2nd half is going to start in spring, early summer . right now both sides are literately stuck in the mud , 6 to 8 feet of mud . Happened to Napoleon, Happened to Hitler and Stalin. Whenever the ground hardens, the fight will ensue . This is just half time right now.
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Jack Posobiec
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It turns out Adam Kinzinger and Malcolm Nance have been promoting a guy for months who wasn't actually a soldier and was just taking photos in front of destroyed tanks in Ukraine all along
prambo
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You showed Johnny "Wet Start" McCain and Lindsey "Limp Wrist' Graham in the same pic!!!
prambo
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm................................................well, well.
US Army Establishes 1st Permanent Garrison On NATO's Eastern Flank | ZeroHedge
"The Pentagon currently has two officers stationed at Camp Kosciuszko and 200 additional troops at the base on a rotational basis. As Washington had already kept about 10,000 troops in Poland previously, an analyst at the Polish Institute of International Affairs, Artur Kacprzyk, argued the significance of the new garrison “is primarily symbolic.”
Some combatants might not see it that way.
Dad, how did we end up at war with Russia?"
Well, son, two ways - gradually, then suddenly.
(Apologies to Hemingway.)
US Army Establishes 1st Permanent Garrison On NATO's Eastern Flank | ZeroHedge
"The Pentagon currently has two officers stationed at Camp Kosciuszko and 200 additional troops at the base on a rotational basis. As Washington had already kept about 10,000 troops in Poland previously, an analyst at the Polish Institute of International Affairs, Artur Kacprzyk, argued the significance of the new garrison “is primarily symbolic.”
Some combatants might not see it that way.
Dad, how did we end up at war with Russia?"
Well, son, two ways - gradually, then suddenly.
(Apologies to Hemingway.)
prambo
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Why hypersonic weapons change everything
"Russia's new Kinzhal missile flies at speeds of mach 12 to mach 15 and nothing in western defensive arsenals can stop its strike. During the war in Ukraine, Russia staged a stunning demonstration of its power. The first Kinzhal strike, delivered one month after the beginning of hostilities in Ukraine, was perhaps the most significant: Russian forces targeted a large weapons depot in Ukraine which had been built during the Soviet times to withstand a nuclear strike. It was buried 170 meters (over 500 ft) underground and protected by several layers of armored concrete.
The Kinzhal flies at altitudes of between 20 and 40 km, with a maximum range of 2,000 km. When above target, it dives perpendicularly and accelerates to 15 mach, generating enormous kinetic energy in addition to its explosive payload. That first strike with a single Kinzhal missile destroyed Ukraine's nuke-proof underground weapons depot. This was a message for the west."
"Russia's new Kinzhal missile flies at speeds of mach 12 to mach 15 and nothing in western defensive arsenals can stop its strike. During the war in Ukraine, Russia staged a stunning demonstration of its power. The first Kinzhal strike, delivered one month after the beginning of hostilities in Ukraine, was perhaps the most significant: Russian forces targeted a large weapons depot in Ukraine which had been built during the Soviet times to withstand a nuclear strike. It was buried 170 meters (over 500 ft) underground and protected by several layers of armored concrete.
The Kinzhal flies at altitudes of between 20 and 40 km, with a maximum range of 2,000 km. When above target, it dives perpendicularly and accelerates to 15 mach, generating enormous kinetic energy in addition to its explosive payload. That first strike with a single Kinzhal missile destroyed Ukraine's nuke-proof underground weapons depot. This was a message for the west."