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It’s cost vs benefit. How many threaded barrels are going to be sold without such a ban? These restrictions aren’t new to the legal system. Cost of litigation has probably been calculated. It might not be worth it for threaded barrels.

If you look at threaded barrels in isolation I am sure it's not.

But if you think a bit you will come to the inevitable conclusion that it will not stop at threaded barrels, then you realize it is all your products.

So, it's either stop selling to NY (then probably CA, NJ, MA, etc after it works in NY) or fight them. It's still economics, but it is much much bigger than just some barrel sales.

 

[Saltwater60]

If you look at threads barrels in isolation I am sure it's not.

But if you think a bit you will come to the inevitable conclusion that it will not stop at threaded barrels, then you realize it is all your products.

So, it's either stop selling to NY (then probably CA, NY, MA, etc after it works in NY) or fight them. It's still economics, but it is much much bigger than just some barrel sales.

Correct. Just like the expansion of red flag laws. When they drop they will add another reason for red flags to keep reducing gun owners in NYS. Once the stop all the 80% lowers from coming into NYS they will move on to another feature. As stated it will never stop here.

 

[Truebeliever]

If you look at threads barrels in isolation I am sure it's not.

But if you think a bit you will come to the inevitable conclusion that it will not stop at threaded barrels, then you realize it is all your products.

So, it's either stop selling to NY (then probably CA, NY, MA, etc after it works in NY) or fight them. It's still economics, but it is much much bigger than just some barrel sales.

It might eventually come to that. To stop selling anything in NY , CA, etc. But that is not the company’s fault but NY ‘s fault.

You ask them to fight it. They should choose the correct battlefield. Their lawyers might have decided that threaded barrels was a loser because the non gun friendly courts would say a threaded barrel is for silencers or to attach now illegal items to the gun despite some legal uses. It’s a nuisance abatement civil lawsuit . It’s not a black and white , yes or no, question of if it’s legal or not. Similar to getting sued if you don’t cut your grass on your front lawn.
Its our fight, not theirs despite any legal question of standing .

 

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It might eventually come to that. To stop selling anything in NY , CA, etc. But that is not the company’s fault but NY ‘s fault.

You ask them to fight it. They should choose the correct battlefield. Their lawyers might have decided that threaded barrels was a loser because the non gun friendly courts would say a threaded barrel is for silencers or to attach now illegal items to the gun despite some legal uses. It’s a nuisance abatement civil lawsuit . It’s not a black and white , yes or no, question of if it’s legal or not. Similar to getting sued if you don’t cut your grass on your front lawn.
Its our fight, not theirs despite any legal question of standing .

It's not about muzzle brakes being illegal in NY. They are not. They are only illegal on semiautomatic rifles that have a detachable magazine.

Sure, it's possible they've evaluated all of their options and decided they're going to eke out whatever they can from NY until it's all banned.

I'm just saying they might as well cut their losses now rather than keeping track of the slow bleed.

 

[Truebeliever]

It's not about muzzle brakes being illegal in NY. They are not. They are only illegal on semiautomatic rifles that have a detachable magazine.

Sure, it's possible they've evaluated all of their options and decided they're going to eke out whatever they can from NY until it's all banned.

I'm just saying they might as well cut their losses now rather than keeping track of the slow bleed.

If they were based in NY , you point would be well taken. But selling items that haven’t been put on the naughty list ( either by law or lawsuit ) from a location already outside NYS, doesn’t add much cost if they stay out of the grey areas. And they can make money even if it’s less than what would sell in a free state. It doesn’t cost them any extra beyond possible legal and accounting fees.

 

[Saltwater60]

It might eventually come to that. To stop selling anything in NY , CA, etc. But that is not the company’s fault but NY ‘s fault.

You ask them to fight it. They should choose the correct battlefield. Their lawyers might have decided that threaded barrels was a loser because the non gun friendly courts would say a threaded barrel is for silencers or to attach now illegal items to the gun despite some legal uses. It’s a nuisance abatement civil lawsuit . It’s not a black and white , yes or no, question of if it’s legal or not. Similar to getting sued if you don’t cut your grass on your front lawn.
Its our fight, not theirs despite any legal question of standing .

You’re dealing with the same people that think silencers are only used by paid hot men like in the movies. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I mean what’s next they won’t sell you anything designed for concealed carry because the CCIA? Or how about an upper because now you need a rifle license.

 

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If they were based in NY , you point would be well taken. But selling items that haven’t been put on the naughty list ( either by law or lawsuit ) from a location already outside NYS, doesn’t add much cost if they stay out of the grey areas. And they can make money even if it’s less than what would sell in a free state. It doesn’t cost them any extra beyond possible legal and accounting fees.

True, but because of population, if they lose NY and CA that is a large chunk of sales for a national company.

 

[Truebeliever]

You’re dealing with the same people that think silencers are only used by paid hot men like in the movies. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I mean what’s next they won’t sell you anything designed for concealed carry because the CCIA? Or how about an upper because now you need a rifle license.

And what does that have to with a particular company not wanting the legal battle that they might lose for a very little profit in sales .
The fault is with NYS and not the business.

 

[Saltwater60]

And what does that have to with a particular company not wanting the legal battle that they might lose for a very little profit in sales .
The fault is with NYS and not the business.

I agree it’s on NYS, but that doesn’t change the fact that we’re getting screwed.