Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Exactly why I’ll go to PA to buy mine from now on.
I want to know what will happen to all those paper records?
This is comical, Hochul says ammunition background checks will reduce firearm homicides by 22%
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I want to know what will happen to all those paper records?
US RIFLE M1A
.45 acp
I thought she did not need statistics.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
That guy above has his social media on his face. No password is needed.
But he doesn't look like the type that gives a shit about gun control laws anyways.
But he doesn't look like the type that gives a shit about gun control laws anyways.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
What we need is a new federal law called the public servant accountability act and this time specifically designed for politicians so the results of their words and actions will be used to get fired or worse depending on the severity. ...you know like any other public servant in law enforcement, fire, emergency ...
Why politicians shouldn't be accountable and personally liable like others?
Why politicians shouldn't be accountable and personally liable like others?
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
They know these numbers cuz they did a study....DUH...... they get their numbers from Studies......Studies of pulling numbers from THIN AIR!!!
How can you quantify this...really????!!!!!!!!
How can you quantify this...really????!!!!!!!!
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
Well she certainly can't understand normal thinking!
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Are you kidding me? Hochul will use that guy as her next success story and he will be standing on stage next to her.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
Thanks! Btw, I am a girl.
The bs is so deep and the fact is, if we stay in business we will be one of the contributors to the illegal register, or as listed in the law, database.
The answer to that is the cameras that are to be installed. They are to be from an "approved" company, centrally monitored, over the POS, and records kept for a minimum of two years. I have cameras, closed system. Much more secure than an internet based system. (And who the hell is going to secure the records and what is the cost of that?!?) This is supposed to happen in December of this year.
Vicarious
.40 S&W
Im in other north east states rather frequently, guess who isnt buying in NY any longer.
Yea, and Eating a bunch of dicks reduces political incompetence by 41%
See I can make random shit up too
See I can make random shit up too
mark60
.40 S&W
I'll bet that number didn't even hit the sides as it came out.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
This is from Legis Scan.
6. If the superintendent of state police certifies that background
23 checks of ammunition purchasers may be conducted through the national
24 instant criminal background check system, [use of that system by] a
25 dealer or seller shall contact the division of state police to conduct
26 such check which shall be sufficient to satisfy subdivisions four and
27 five of this section [and such checks shall be conducted through such
28system, provided that a record of such transaction shall be forwarded to
29the state police in a form determined by the superintendent].
30 § 20. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 400.06 to read
31 as follows:
32 § 400.06 National instant criminal background checks.
33 1. Any dealer in firearms that sells, delivers or otherwise transfers
34 any firearm shall contact the division of state police to conduct a
35 national instant criminal background check pursuant to section two
36 hundred twenty-eight of the executive law.
6. If the superintendent of state police certifies that background
23 checks of ammunition purchasers may be conducted through the national
24 instant criminal background check system, [
25 dealer or seller shall contact the division of state police to conduct
26 such check which shall be sufficient to satisfy subdivisions four and
27 five of this section [
28
29
30 § 20. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 400.06 to read
31 as follows:
32 § 400.06 National instant criminal background checks.
33 1. Any dealer in firearms that sells, delivers or otherwise transfers
34 any firearm shall contact the division of state police to conduct a
35 national instant criminal background check pursuant to section two
36 hundred twenty-eight of the executive law.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
So what is their contingency plan if NICS says fuck you?
Sorry I assumed you were a man.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
There are so many questions in this piece of crap. I have notations all over my pages. There are contradictions in it all thru it. I truly hope that it helps tear it down.
NP, sometimes I have to remind myself the forum is mainly of bunch of guys, some of them old grumpy guys
. Although since this crap got passed I have been really ugly and have to work at not saying very unladylike things!
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Who you calling old and grumpy?There are so many questions in this piece of crap. I have notations all over my pages. There are contradictions in it all thru it. I truly hope that it helps tear it down.
NP, sometimes I have to remind myself the forum is mainly of bunch of guys, some of them old grumpy guys
Glad to have another female aboard. I think you’re only the second lady on here.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
i think they already did back with the SAFE ACT .. NICS told NY no way ..
So the FFL no longer contacts NICS on their own when transferring a firearm?
Now they contact NYSP. And I assume NYSP contacts the Feds?
If not, doesn't that make everyone a felon for not properly conducting a NICS check when transferring a firearm?
I'm so confused.
Now they contact NYSP. And I assume NYSP contacts the Feds?
If not, doesn't that make everyone a felon for not properly conducting a NICS check when transferring a firearm?
I'm so confused.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
And is NYSP keeping a database now of every transfer? What if I buy a legal gun in PA?
ManualF150
.308 Win
NYS gun law revises ammunition sales process
Local retailers are well aware of some customer frustration since New York is now requiring them to record information about any ammo purchases.
www.wgrz.com
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
and anyone within 100 miles of a state border will go out of state to buy all the ammo they can carry,
you people need to get out of NY before they put up check points, to get in or out of the state
you people need to get out of NY before they put up check points, to get in or out of the state
thughes
.44 mag
NYS gun law revises ammunition sales process
Local retailers are well aware of some customer frustration since New York is now requiring them to record information about any ammo purchases.
"If someone does not have a pistol permit and wants to buy a semi-automatic rifle with the also new 21-year-old age requirement, then they have to go through the permitting process."
Huh? Is this just confusion/wrong information on the reporter's part or is your stupid state requiring people to go through the whole pistol permitting process simply to by a Ruger 10/22?
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
Actually I'm thinking it's not a "22% reduction" but a 22% increase.
Where the fuck do they pull these numbers from?
"I don't need data to protect the citizens of New York"... It's all bullshit to justify their actions.
New York is setting up to conduct NICS Checks for Guns and Ammunition, I just wonder where they're going to get staff, training, software, and computer systems enough to handle the load....California has been trying for a decade and still can't get their shit together.
Off on a tangent: Another Dealer told me yesterday that the reason why Jefferson County can't print the middle name on the Handgun Licenses they issue is the cheap-ass Software they purchased can't do it, seems the State left it up to the Counties to procure what they wanted so long as it met minimum data standards.
Where the fuck do they pull these numbers from?
"I don't need data to protect the citizens of New York"... It's all bullshit to justify their actions.
States satisfying the Check requirements may conduct and subsequently charge for doing so. Florida does so, and I believe New Jersey dose as well.
New York is setting up to conduct NICS Checks for Guns and Ammunition, I just wonder where they're going to get staff, training, software, and computer systems enough to handle the load....California has been trying for a decade and still can't get their shit together.
Off on a tangent: Another Dealer told me yesterday that the reason why Jefferson County can't print the middle name on the Handgun Licenses they issue is the cheap-ass Software they purchased can't do it, seems the State left it up to the Counties to procure what they wanted so long as it met minimum data standards.
Yes the State Legislature (NYC/Black Coalition) IS just that stupid, and yes the process to obtain a Licenses to purchase a Semi-automatic Rifle is the same lengthy, intrusive, and expensive process as becoming Licensed to own/carry a Handgun.
The only thing that could possibly be proved is where the box came from should it be discovered... manufactures, wholesalers, distributors, dealers do not mark the ammunition itself nor track where it's shipped, and with Billions of rounds already out there it's not likely there'll ever be a crime solved or lead gathered.So you write your name and ammo lot number on a sheet and walk away with the ammo . No possible way that ammo will ever be used in a crime
COBIS: 33 Million spent, zero cases solved.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I did think it was only permitted guns needed a background check for ammo. Maybe they changed it?NYS gun law revises ammunition sales process
Local retailers are well aware of some customer frustration since New York is now requiring them to record information about any ammo purchases.
