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Apparently the raging Cajun hasn't embraced Clown World yet.

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James Carville rips elitist media, says Dems are 'losing our damn minds'

James Carville, a former top adviser to Presdient Clinton, laid out a scathing critique of his party, arguing that it drifted way too far to the left and was on the way to failure as a result of pushing extreme policy ideas.
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Come on Jimmy, take the honk pill!

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"Democrats talking about free college tuition or debt forgiveness. I’m not here to debate the idea. What I can tell you is that people all over this country worked their way through school, sent their kids to school, paid off student loans. They don’t want to hear this s--t. And you saw Warren confronted by an angry voter over this. It’s just not a winning message," he said.
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HELL YES THIS. That father vocalized simply what I felt and what many others feel. And warren's response was bullshit because the plan is bullshit.

I sacrifice mightily for college savings. I know for a fact I have neighbors driving nicer vehicles (new SUV + new truck) who aren't saving shit for their kids. Debt forgiveness would piss me off big time. Also, I've actually debated somebody on another forum who insisted on paying the minimum on his debt because he thinks the odds of a warren/sanders victory are high enough that he can't be bothered, so he's holding on. This is a guy who could pay it off but wants that free ride. Now, is he right? If they win and give him his money he sure is. But it's bullshit.

Carville has been around for a while. He's seen that the democrats of the 90's were the republicans of today. The party has gone batshit insane in the past 20 years, the past 5 in particular. Fuck. In the past two in real particular. Just totally bonkers. Now an avowed, unashamed socialist is actually a possible contender?
"[Binyamin] Appelbaum doesn’t speak for the Democratic Party, but he does represent the urbanist mindset," he said. "We can’t win the Senate by looking down at people."
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It's fine with me. Keep at it and the basket of deplorables will smack you down again in November.
 
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Blimey said:
HELL YES THIS. That father vocalized simply what I felt and what many others feel. And warren's response was bullshit because the plan is bullshit.

I sacrifice mightily for college savings. I know for a fact I have neighbors driving nicer vehicles (new SUV + new truck) who aren't saving shit for their kids. Debt forgiveness would piss me off big time. Also, I've actually debated somebody on another forum who insisted on paying the minimum on his debt because he thinks the odds of a warren/sanders victory are high enough that he can't be bothered, so he's holding on. This is a guy who could pay it off but wants that free ride. Now, is he right? If they win and give him his money he sure is. But it's bullshit.

Carville has been around for a while. He's seen that the democrats of the 90's were the republicans of today. The party has gone batshit insane in the past 20 years, the past 5 in particular. Fuck. In the past two in real particular. Just totally bonkers. Now an avowed, unashamed socialist is actually a possible contender?
It's fine with me. Keep at it and the basket of deplorables will smack you down again in November.
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It's not the amount of money you have, exactly, but that you try. When you try, and you give it all you can, and you save for your kids' and family's future, then you will always have your dignity -- handout, or not. Those who fuck society over and play the system, and live recklessly, don't have dignity. They don't have self control. Neither of those qualities can be bought, but only earned.

Do the right thing because it's right. Simple as that. Regardless of whether abuse of college aid gets fixed or not.
 
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It's crazy how far left the Democrat party has gone.
And how the pace picked up recently.

In the 1970's - 80's and 90's and maybe even into the early 2000's
I did not think that the Democrats hated America. I did not agree with their politics.
But I did not think at that time, that their goal was to destroy America and our way of life.
The 94' AWB was bullshit though.

IMO it is no longer the Democrat party... They just kept the same name.

Speaking of hating America, that gives me an idea for a new sig line.
 
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Tuition costs are directly related to government inserting it's dick where it didn't belong and some how the government doing the same again but with a twist is the resolution.
 
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If they can do it, some students will rack up a huge bill going to college & pick an educational path which does not lead to a job which pays well enough to live, and to pay back a college loan. People like that don't give a rat's ass about concepts like "return on investment" or "payback" when it comes to a college education.

Here's an example :

"It wasn’t until the second semester of his freshman year in college that Tinashe Chaponda realized how good he had it.
The now-23-year-old watched as his friends at Western Michigan University were stressed out about affording tuition and finding jobs with a salaries high enough to pay back student loans after they graduated.
Chaponda built his class schedule around what he was interested in, not necessarily what would pay well. And, since he could afford not to work while in school, Chaponda had the time to start an organization that connects students interested in volunteering with local nonprofits."

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Here’s what it would take to make college tuition-free

The free-college movement is making inroads, but funding and equality are big stumbling blocks.
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@thewheels said:
Tuition costs are directly related to government inserting it's dick where it didn't belong and some how the government doing the same again but with a twist is the resolution.
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That is the pattern.

Government identifies something that some people think should be "a little bit better". Government intervenes with heavy handed and poorly thought regulations. More problems ensue. Government attempts to "solve" those problems. Rinse and Repeat.

It's like someone who hits a slippery patch on the highway, and instead of riding through it they slam on the brakes and start to spin. Then they over correct and fishtail the other way. Repeat a couple times and end up in a tree.

We're going sideways down the thruway at 75mph with the tires at opposite lock at this point. We need an expert race driver in control right now, and the Democrats want to put their 12 year old niece in the drivers seat because it's her turn.
 
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This factor is never mentioned folks ....
Because the government will pick up the cost of higher learning the costs will balloon ... New positions will be created .. along with staff and all the perks ... Notice ... When was the last time we heard about reducing the budget of a university.
 
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livingston said:
This factor is never mentioned folks ....
Because the government will pick up the cost of higher learning the costs will balloon ... New positions will be created .. along with staff and all the perks ... Notice ... When was the last time we heard about reducing the budget of a university.
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Health care and education costs are already ballooning without the influence of government.
 
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It frosted me when my kids applied for student aid and couldn't get it because I had saved for their education while someone else I know squandered his whole paycheck every month. His kids got financial aid because he had not saved. :banghead:
 
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Bigfoot said:
It's crazy how far left the Democrat party has gone.
And how the pace picked up recently.

In the 1970's - 80's and 90's and maybe even into the early 2000's
I did not think that the Democrats hated America. I did not agree with their politics.
But I did not think at that time, that their goal was to destroy America and our way of life.
The 94' AWB was bullshit though.

IMO it is no longer the Democrat party... They just kept the same name.

Speaking of hating America, that gives me an idea for a new sig line.
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I mentioned it earlier but when I look at Clinton's speeches in the 90's, his view on things like immigration I agreed with them.

I think the party is fractured because you've got the wackos like AOC, and then the old-timers. I can't believe pelosi and schumer believe what they say. I think they feel stuck. F them nonetheless, but still.

When I think of democrats now I think they do hate America. Simply because America is nothing but its history and its culture and its customs, and they loathe these. They are ashamed of anything conventional. They want to abolish anything that has been here for a while. That's their plank. Everything must go.
 
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1911guy said:
It frosted me when my kids applied for student aid and couldn't get it because I had saved for their education while someone else I know squandered his whole paycheck every month. His kids got financial aid because he had not saved. :banghead:
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And I do know a family that was actively changing the part-time work of the wife so that they could stay under the NY limit for free tuition. I don't blame her. I blame the system.

For what little good it is, though, a guy like you is going to always beat a guy like that because he's not driven and not intentional with his life.
 
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1911guy said:
It frosted me when my kids applied for student aid and couldn't get it because I had saved for their education while someone else I know squandered his whole paycheck every month. His kids got financial aid because he had not saved. :banghead:
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Should have taken the money, bought a new truck, put an addition on your house, picked up some new guns, then reapplied.
 
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