"You can do" doesn't mean "I did do". He also says "you can do anything", does that mean he did everything?
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"You can do" doesn't mean "I did do". He also says "you can do anything", does that mean he did everything?
You can win the lottery
You can drink a bottle of whiskey
You can win in divorce court
You can live to be 100
You can drive 120mph
You can become a billionaire
You can go to the moon
See?
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freddy
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Too funny. Meaningless semantics. You want to debate past tense or future tense of pussy grabbing statements by the leader of the free world. Have at it. That you admit he said what he said is good enough for me. I thought you were going to claim it was a hoax (you know, like Trump did, ha!)
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Aren't you the one that has an attorney on call? Why if words are semantics? Do you think Bush, Obama, Kennedy, or any other President never once bragged to another man about a woman? If so is getting taped a disqualifier to becoming President? Or is it okay only if you've never been taped?
I think the talk was disgusting, to a point. Wow, the things that I have said in the past and currently make Trumps comments seem tame. Some of the shit that comes out of my mouth; I would be embarrassed if my wife or my kids heard me say these things.
All these people that were and are riled up over these comments; I say loudly, PISS OFF! I promise you, nearly all men and women have said similar type statements.
And again, he never, at least on this tape, ever said "I grab Pussies". Nope, not there.
This was said in a private conversation between two TV-personalities. Leaders of a free world don't come out of monasteries.
freddy
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Leaders are held to a higher standard. Look, if Hitlery was taped saying "I'll suck Willjr75's cock." then you would be ALL OVER IT. C'mon now! That's all I am saying.
holdover
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He didn't actually say he did, but he implied or inferred That he did . because its vague, its interpretational .
It would be reasonable to believe that he was talking from experience, But not proof .
If I said I can shoot 1 MOA at 800 yards , you may reasonably interpret that I said I did shoot 1 MOA at 800 yards.
Then when we get to the range and I cant, you may say hey you were lying, and I can say well not really , I can shoot 1 MOA with some more practice.
I never said I did. Its a little bit ingenious.
It would be reasonable to believe that he was talking from experience, But not proof .
If I said I can shoot 1 MOA at 800 yards , you may reasonably interpret that I said I did shoot 1 MOA at 800 yards.
Then when we get to the range and I cant, you may say hey you were lying, and I can say well not really , I can shoot 1 MOA with some more practice.
I never said I did. Its a little bit ingenious.
Dinkus the Stinkus
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I can't speak for Will but I wouldn't let that witch anywhere near my gentleman's sausage no matter what she said.
Oh and BTW, I do not hold leaders to higher standards, I only hold them to the same standard as everyone else. They are no different than you and I.
freddy
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Whoa! We are in agreement!
Oh? Why wasn't he held to a standard that would have disqualified pretty much anyone from being anywhere near classified and sensitive materials?
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Dinkus the Stinkus
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It's also problematic how they show what he said as sentences. It's not 3 sentences. I'd word it like this... "You can do anything, grab em by the pussy. You can do anything." The comma infers he's saying "you can do anything. You can grab em by the pussy." which is how I understood what was said.
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I would have fucked her when she was young but that isn't the point. Lol. She has aids now from Bill and probably doesn't get wet. Plus she shits herself now.
And I couldn't care less if she did say that just like I didn't care that Obama smoked cigarettes, marijuana, and snorted coke.
Politicians aren't supposed to be noble, shit don't stink people. They are supposed to be regular people like you and I who may have once smoked a joint, talked about grabbing a pussy, or actually grabbed one when the woman consented.
And I couldn't care less if she did say that just like I didn't care that Obama smoked cigarettes, marijuana, and snorted coke.
Politicians aren't supposed to be noble, shit don't stink people. They are supposed to be regular people like you and I who may have once smoked a joint, talked about grabbing a pussy, or actually grabbed one when the woman consented.
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Quick little point, all who have served in the Military can and will understand.
I was a Platoon SGT for many years. I was a leader of many men for many, many years. As you look at Army Regulations and other documents, not once will you find that I, or others in like positions, were ever held to higher standards or regulations. AR's like AR 670-1 was the same for me as it was for those Soldiers in my charge. Rules of Engagement were the same regardless of rank or position.
No, Leaders should never be held to a higher standard than the People. When we do that, we elevate them to think and know that they are better than all others!
I was a Platoon SGT for many years. I was a leader of many men for many, many years. As you look at Army Regulations and other documents, not once will you find that I, or others in like positions, were ever held to higher standards or regulations. AR's like AR 670-1 was the same for me as it was for those Soldiers in my charge. Rules of Engagement were the same regardless of rank or position.
No, Leaders should never be held to a higher standard than the People. When we do that, we elevate them to think and know that they are better than all others!
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Freddy is used to being lied to. He's perfectly content with that. Just look at the Mandalay Bay thread.
freddy
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Oh okay there, Alex Jones Jr.
Ha! ...reptile invasion by the Illuminati right?
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<SIGH> Just another stupid thread to go on ad nauseum.
You can stop reading at any time.
Ha, but he DID NOT SAY "I" COULD, he said YOU could, YOU could, not I could.
That is on/off, hot/cold, white/black, apple/orange different.
What you say he said he never uttered.
"I can" means that I believe I have the power to do something.
"You can" means that me, you, anyone has the power to do something.
YUGE difference.
See, this is the problem though.
People cannot agree on things that are simple to understand.
You can stop reading if you want.
That doesnt mean that you did stop reading, or that you will stop reading, it means you can stop reading.
Watch what I can do with this cigar...
holdover
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This is very debatable but not really debate worthy. What your saying is not wrong in ltself, you can grab them by the pussy isolated, is literal. The context of the conversation, is trump explaining how women react to him, I'm on my phone so I can't quote the conversation .im paraphrasing, trump said when your rich they treat you like a rockstar he wasnt saying the guy would be rich or a rock star. It's a manner of speaking. To me he is clearly speaking about himself, being rich and treated like a rockstar. If I was telling you about my ski trip, I say might say, when you get to top of the double diamond and you look over the edge you cant see anything for ten feet. And when you get to the edge, your shutting bricks. The first thing that happens when you jump is that you free fall.
There are nuances in language that may be in play.
In my opinion, I believe he was explaining a situation. I can't say that your wrong but you are interpreting differently than I would.
There are nuances in language that may be in play.
In my opinion, I believe he was explaining a situation. I can't say that your wrong but you are interpreting differently than I would.
It was permission to do so.
The ppint is, the democrats are saying that Trump said he grabs pussies, that is not true any way you see it.
There were hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people that voted for Hillary solely because of this statement.
The fact that democratic politicians pushed this lie is very dishonest.
Without this 1 lie, Trump may have won the majority.
Not to mention the "deport all Mexicans" and "all Mexicans are rapists and murderers".
Thats why this is important, millions of Americans were duped into voting for Clinton by politicians and media that KNEW they were deceivng people.
Common practice, among all politicians.
Hey, I dislike repubs almost as much as dems, but show me one time a repub was able to get away with these levels of lies, which changed an election.
The 3 big lies I mentioned are easy enough to debunk by a 13 year old girl in a matter of minutes.
Seriously, my niece did it last year.
Republicans tend to hold their politicians to a higher standard.
Also, if a repub tried a lie like these, the MSM would destroy them day one.
Not disagreeing with you just saying both sides practice this.