Like I said BJ/Simple fuck! Dems are trying to find something, anything!Are we sure it was a world class fuck up? Why couldn't there be an anti-Trump mole in his administration looking to sabotage everything possible?
Like I said BJ/Simple fuck! Dems are trying to find something, anything!Are we sure it was a world class fuck up? Why couldn't there be an anti-Trump mole in his administration looking to sabotage everything possible?
Dems are trying to find something, anything!Like I said BJ/Simple fuck!
Grasping at straws.Dems are trying to find something, anything!
You are exactly right.Someone in the chat had to have that jornalist in their contracts to add. Why would that be? How did they know he already had signal?
It then could be fat fingering and they meant the peron about or below the journalist of just another person names goldberg.
They want the eurpeans to conduct this war and its mostly all their shipping in danger.
They could care less if the houti a know they are coming. Iraq in both wars knew the exqact day
They want all their systems on so they can identify more targets to hit and put them out of business.
I recently contacted my team leader from long ago as he is retired as a three star. He told me by email he would call by signal so he knew aout it and thats another use they did not talk about secure phone calls.
But, as it turns out, the reporter was sensationalizing the contents of the conversation to the point of outright lying about them.A reporter or news organization, good or bad, can dislike a person and still love their country. And their freedom, because printing any of that clusterfuckery of world class incompetence would have likely resulted in some pain for that journalist.
But, as it turns out, the reporter was sensationalizing the contents of the conversation to the point of outright lying about them.
It's like anyone who believes anything they say without confirmation is a moron.
Well, what was released today clears that up. Clearly sensitive info regarding strike times and operational results.But, what if as the administration is saying, it *wasn't* classified information ?
What if this Atlantic editor just got copied on their lunch plans and twisted it into something it wasn't, as modern journalists are prone to doing ?
You would think so, but apparently this ONE texting app, Signal, is the only app even allowed in their phones/computers. Seems odd, but that's the story.I wonder how they're even getting away with texting classified info in the first place. AFAIK, classified info can only be sent over very secure channels. Maybe they have cell phones that are somehow secure enough to send classified info... but if so, I'd have expected recipients to be filtered through an approved list.
Blame the victim? Of course. Where have we heard THAT before? Damn victims, always causing trouble.Yet General Miley called his counter-part in China and said "if Trump make a move on China or Taiwan, I'll give you a heads up" ~~~~ and no one batted an eye.
First the "journalist" should have said something the minute he realized he was included in the wrong chat. yep, it's not his fault, but he should have said or tweeted something to the affect of "hey, you clowns included me, did you mean to do that"
But no, he's one of the radical assholes that is more than willing to compromise our country and our troops for head lines.
Do you have a link to the actual conversation?Well, what was released today clears that up. Clearly sensitive info regarding strike times and operational results.
But, even last night, the following was abundantly clear:
Look, I support the Trump administration, and I'm not advocating for levying charges against administration officials. I am saying that if you or I had done the same, we would be sitting in jail right now trying to find lawyers. I can never agree to "rules for thee, not for me," regardless of whether or not I support the administration.
- These were the highest-level officials discussing details about military operations and political considerations that we would not want released to the public.
- They were discussing information and reactions to information provided to them by the DoD and intelligence services, which I guarantee was delivered with top secret classification headings. Which means they were absolutely discussing classified information.
- Russia, China, and Europe are certainly poring over all of these details to glean information about military procedures, how the administration carries out business, and the thought process of the administration.
Yes, it was not OK that a staffer added the journalist to the conversation. If you don't find that suspicious, then I don't know what to say.It’s nok that the reporter was part of the group chat with top level sec/def staff.
Does anyone believe that the staffers would publicly admit that classified info was contained in that chat?
If this happened to Biden administration officials this forum would have been livid.
We need to stop making excuses for politicians and demand better from them. It’s not a football game of blue vs red. The decisions they make affect all of us, no matter who is making them.
I’d love to see screenshots of the whole thing now that’s it’s been publicly stated that nothing classified was discussed. $50 bet that we never see it.
Here's a pretty damning one, IMO. Note that this is before the strikes occurred...Do you have a link to the actual conversation?
All I can find are articles discussing it and their conclusions are all apparent before you even read the headline.
Just look at the URL to see where it's published and you know whether the article will claim it's either a nothing burger or it's the full nuclear codes.
They could have held it face to face in a SCIF if one of the participants was planning on smuggling out a recording, you would have the same result.
Agreed.It's also not OK that the government can't provide a useful secure communication channel that doesn't suck.
I am sure a mole that wanted to could sneak a recording device in.SCIFs are pretty strict about what goes in or out of them. Like, no recording devices, cell phones, laptops etc. Even getting new keyboards or mice in there can be a real PITA. Notes made in the SCIF can't be taken out. A participant could certainly still relay a discussion from memory, of course.
Agreed.
It's entirely possible for him to "insert himself" if the staffer who added him was acting under his direction.“Waltz said Tuesday on Fox News that he takes "full responsibility" for creating the group, but he also sought to deflect responsibility for Goldberg's inclusion by suggesting that Goldberg may have somehow inappropriately inserted himself — something that doesn't appear to be possible under Signal's known operating system. “Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we’re trying to figure out,” Waltz said, adding that "the best technical minds" for Elon Musk would be looking into the matter.”
Give me a break. Goldberg “inappropriately inserted himself” into their Signal group? The only thing being inappropriately inserted anywhere is pretty obvious if just bend over and take it.
Who is this phantom “staffer?” Mike Waltz said he created the group himself. You might want to look into this a little. Waltz chose the incorrect contact per his own admission. Nobody fucked this up for him. He fucked up all on his own. Not sure why it’s so hard to admit that a human error was made by an imperfect human. Ain’t none of us perfect, old son. Mistakes get made. Man up, own up. Learn from it. But dodging, deflecting and blaming others is what we accuse our political rivals of doing while we dodge, deflect and blame others. America. Land of the free thinkers. Nope.It's entirely possible for him to "insert himself" if the staffer who added him was acting under his direction.
That really does raise the question of *why* he was added.