Two Men Who Attempt To Rob A 67-Year-Old Man In The Woods Pay A Bitter Price
- Thread starter Jezman
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The next time one of these anti gun nuts says, "why would you need a gun in a Walmart", or "why do you paranoid gun freaks always think someone gonna get you", or........(add your own saying here)
I will show them this article.
I will show them this article.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
To the old guy and the little turd play stupid games win stupid prizes 
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
Once again, the young twerps of the world act as though the old timers and wiser citizens are the stupid ones....when will the whipper-snappers get their shit together?
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I like it when my contemporaries excel at something.
Robin
Robin
Celt
.338 Win Mag
I like the old saying, play stupid games win stupid prizes.
It's because shit like this can happen ANY time and ANY damn place that I carry at all times, and wherever it's legal. Hell, I live in a "very safe" town, - and yet we've had our share of random violent and deadly crimes, including armed robberies, home invasions, assaults, murders, and the like. And the absolute random nature of them is what I find most concerning. I hope I never need to use it, but it's at my side if needed.
Good for the CCW'er.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
there is an old saying (probably from an old man)
Glenn B
.308 Win
One of the most important lines in the whole story was this:
Whether or not in any pain, requesting immediate medical attention at a hospital would be an excellent call on the part of any one who has shot someone in self defense. Light headedness, dizziness, feeling faint, racing pulse, fear your blood pressure is high, feeling as if you have been hit by an adrenalin rush and other things will be taking place and those other things may well include chest pain or a tightness in your chest. Always request immediate medical attention, at a hospital, in the aftermath of such a shooting.
If you do not understand why I say so, you had best reconsider continued carry of a firearm for self defense.
Whether or not in any pain, requesting immediate medical attention at a hospital would be an excellent call on the part of any one who has shot someone in self defense. Light headedness, dizziness, feeling faint, racing pulse, fear your blood pressure is high, feeling as if you have been hit by an adrenalin rush and other things will be taking place and those other things may well include chest pain or a tightness in your chest. Always request immediate medical attention, at a hospital, in the aftermath of such a shooting.
If you do not understand why I say so, you had best reconsider continued carry of a firearm for self defense.
Unless I am mistaken, in the case of a DGU, once you have requested medical attention (such as requesting that you be taken to the ER), that law enforcement cannot question you for the next 72 hours, which would give you time to consult with your attorney. Anyone else know if that is correct, or am I out in left field on this one?
Patriot
.308 Win
Hope the gentleman is okay and ultimately goes home to his family.
Be alert folks. There are scumbags everywhere just looking for any opportunity.
Be alert folks. There are scumbags everywhere just looking for any opportunity.
Glenn B
.308 Win
In what state(s) would that be the case that police cannot question you in the event you seek medical attention after a DGU? By the way, I recommend not using an acronym without writing out all the words first or right after its use; I had to look that up in the Gun Guru's Guide To Nomenclature before knowing what it meant.
Anyway, you ask for medical attention at a hospital for more than one reason. It politely clues in all but the dullest of police officers that you are not feeling up to being questioned because you believe you are suffering medical consequences due to your altercation. Most of them get the hint, if not then simply tell them you do not feel up to answering questions until you have been examined and treated at a hospital and not until talked to your lawyer. That also does more than just clue them in, it gets you away from the site, the stress it is causing you, and all the other officers and detectives who might keep questioning. Additionally it gets you medical attention and believe me you probably will need it for one of the things mentioned earlier or at least get you examination to assure you are okay. It also gives you another thing, the opportunity to call your lawyer out of earshot of at least most of, if not all of, the responding police officers.
Did I neglect to mention that you will need to call a lawyer too; figured most would know that but from experience I can say not all will do it right at the scene. Doing it right is: out of earshot of police and immediately after the police arrive and before they start to ask questions, like in the ambulance. when I was fairly young, all full of piss and vinegar, I screwed up there once and blabbed to the responding officers all about an incident in which I defended my self by shooting someone who tried to mug me. The thing is, one officer kept interrupting his captain, lieutenant, a couple of detectives and other officers (the whole shift at the 104 precinct showed up) as they tried to get the story from me about what had happened. The bad guys had fled, even the one I had shot and all eyes and ears were on me. That one officer stepped in between them and me, as I was telling them the whole story, and in a very loud voice said something like: 'Sir, you should seek immediate medical attention - you are suffering from... ' (and he added a few different things like racing heart rate, high blood pressure, adrenalin overload or whatever). It took him a few times before I finally realized he was telling me to, in a professional manner, "shut the fuck up asshole". He backed off, after each time he did it, I think three in all, but man he just stepped in each time without regard for offending the ranking officers. Must have been a union rep or just a pretty nice cop or both.
I never went to the hospital as I recall and never shut up either. I had already told it all and was quite willing to cooperate and that was foolish before seeking both medical attention and a legal representation. Had I been only a few blocks away in Brooklyn instead of in Queens, I likely would have been prosecuted by Liz Holtzman, at the time. The Queens DA had me appear to testify before the GJ. I was later told that was as much to get the dirtbags charged as to determine whether or not I would be charged. While I think it was already set in stone that I was not being prosecuted today would be different. Today I would be in the headlines across the country and maybe riots would be taking place and the politicians would be looking for a sacrifice which would be me and my freedom whether or not I was in the right. Man I was an asshole for not getting a lawyer onboard immediately but once at the police station, the cops called my boss and he told me to shut up. When I thought about it later, I should have done just what the one officer who kept telling me to go to the hospital had told me to do. Luckily, I was not charged with anything.
Thank goodness though that I had my story straight. The thing is that folks might not, under all the stress in the aftermath of defending one's self, get their story straight especially as the officers keep repeatedly questioning you about the same things over and over and over again. On the other hand, the two bad guys and a couple of their friends (who lied and said they witnessed the shooting) did not get their stories straight when the police found the guy I shot in a hospital a day or two later. Again, luckily, he wound up confessing. I fired one bullet resulting in five holes - in one thigh and out, into his sack and out, and then into his other thigh and traveled down to just above his knee. Yes I was lucky all around but next time, if there ever is a next time, I will shoot higher and will ask for immediate medical attention and call a lawyer.
Glad to hear it turned out OK for you. I seem to recall the bit about the 72 hours from either a training course I took years ago, or having read it somewhere. Thus, I am wondering if any others have heard of it, and if they know if it is valid or not, or just someone's recommendation.
If I'm ever in that situation, my plans after said DGU are to: scan for any additional threats; call 911 stating "I was attacked by, etc." and not "I shot ...", describing my appearance, and asking for an ambulance to be sent; call my lawyer's cell number I have memorized; if time and the situation permits, to take a few pictures or video of the area and of persons present for my defense if needed; shut the fuck up, and say nothing to anyone except arriving LEO's, and to immediately put my weapon on the ground away from me, and face them with my hands empty. I will request medical assistance for myself, and tell the officer's that I will provide a statement to them after consulting with, and in the presence of my attorney. And then remain there silently, (and most likely) in handcuffs.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
One look at me and they would determine that medical assistance was indeed necessary, Hah!
Robin
Robin
pjzwtl
.308 Win
When they become old timers