U.S. House of Reps. votes 226-194 to criminalize disassembling, cleaning, and re-assembling your gun without a firearm manufacturer’s license!

[LibertyWins]

8 House Republicans even voted for this! Unlikely to pass in the Senate of course, but still, a manufacturer's license to disassemble and clean your gun?!

This lunacy is getting out of control in a hurry.

 

[thegatman]

What if you disassemble it and can't get it back together? Does that count?

 

[SomeSoldier]

 

[Shadow rider]

 

[Saltwater60]

Well I guess don’t post any photos or videos of you cleaning your guns.

 

[Steal2B]

Not so sure that language stayed in the bill, but it doesn't matter anyway. The bill ain't passing, and only the 5 rounds a hunting season Fudds would follow such horseshit anyway.

 

[fresch]

Time for them to defend themselves, no more security on tax payers dime.

 

[Bananabandit]

Good luck, again, with enforcing this one. Keep spitballing, maybe youll shoot your eye out.

 

[prambo]

 

[BuffNiag]

This is fake news.

 

[prambo]

This is fake news.

Could be.

Checked the House Clerks voting tallies and can't find anything.

But who knows...most "fake news" comes from fUSA.Gov.

 

[BuffNiag]

Could be.

Checked the House Clerks voting tallies and can't find anything.

But who knows...most "fake news" comes from fUSA.Gov.

Here is the bill. I don't see anything mentioned about it.

Text - H.R.7910 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Protecting Our Kids Act

Text for H.R.7910 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Protecting Our Kids Act

www.congress.gov

 

[Phazer]

Here is the bill. I don't see anything mentioned about it.

Text - H.R.7910 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Protecting Our Kids Act

Text for H.R.7910 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Protecting Our Kids Act

www.congress.gov

I'd like to see the text of this anti-cleaning/assembling bill. I can't find it.

 

[jimc]

This is fake news.

Crap. I thought there was going to be a legitimate reason for me to be lazy and not clean after a range session...

 

[prambo]

@BuffNiag

It's there, I just couldn't find it.

Link to search at fUSA.Gov - Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives

Complete vote tally of H.R. 7910 - Roll Call 245 Roll Call 245, Bill Number: H. R. 7910, 117th Congress, 2nd Session

According to my tally 5 RINOS voted "YEA" - the usual suspects.

 

[Paperpunch]

I read the entire bill. Not in there.

 

[Beerman]

@BuffNiag

It's there, I just couldn't find it.

Link to search at fUSA.Gov - Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives

Complete vote tally of H.R. 7910 - Roll Call 245 Roll Call 245, Bill Number: H. R. 7910, 117th Congress, 2nd Session

According to my tally 5 RINOS voted "YEA" - the usual suspects.

Soooo… if you can’t find it, and no one else can, either, is it still really part of the bill? I think someone has been dabbling a little too deep in Reddit today. ;j

 

[LibertyWins]

@BuffNiag

It's there, I just couldn't find it.

Link to search at fUSA.Gov - Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives

Complete vote tally of H.R. 7910 - Roll Call 245 Roll Call 245, Bill Number: H. R. 7910, 117th Congress, 2nd Session

According to my tally 5 RINOS voted "YEA" - the usual suspects.

I saw the vote Tally here showing 8 RINOS voted "YEAS" here: https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2022/roll239.xml

 

[LibertyWins]

Soooo… if you can’t find it, and no one else can, either, is it still really part of the bill? I think someone has been dabbling a little too deep in Reddit today. ;j

There's a lot of people discussing this on this Twitter post by 'Gun Owners of America':
Some in that thread are saying it depends on the interpretation of the law. The bill redefines "gun manufacturing" to include assembling a working firearm from parts. In the strictest reading of the Bill, it is illegal to put your gun back together if you take it apart, even for maintenance.

Quote from the Bill: “The term ‘manufacturing firearms’ shall include ASSEMBLING A FUNCTIONAL FIREARM or molding, machining, or 3D printing a frame or receiver, and shall not include making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms.”

I'm no law professor, but it would appear some anti-gun prosecutors could interpret this and argue that a gun owner is breaking the law by disassembling and reassembling.

 

[Beerman]

There's a lot of people discussing this on this Twitter post by 'Gun Owners of America':
Some in that thread are saying it depends on the interpretation of the law. The bill redefines "gun manufacturing" to include assembling a working firearm from parts. In the strictest reading of the Bill, it is illegal to put your gun back together if you take it apart, even for maintenance.

Quote from the Bill: “The term ‘manufacturing firearms’ shall include ASSEMBLING A FUNCTIONAL FIREARM or molding, machining, or 3D printing a frame or receiver, and shall not include making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms.”

I'm no law professor, but it would appear some anti-gun prosecutors could interpret this and argue that a gun owner is breaking the law by disassembling and reassembling.

That seems a lot paranoid to view it that way. If the author(s) wanted to say that cleaning and reassembling an existing handgun or rifle was unlawful, it would say that. Yeah, a lot of “gun” legislation is whacked out, but interpreting it the way you’re dang it is just nuckin’ futs. It makes 2A supporters look like loons when people go waaaaaay overboard on this stuff. Just sit back, relax, and wait for the first person to be arrested for cleaning a gun, then my attention will be focused. But this is just silliness at this point.

 

[prambo]

That seems a lot paranoid to view it that way.

Here in Das Vierte Reich being paranoid should be a default behavior.

 

[prambo]

I saw the vote Tally here showing 8 RINOS voted "YEAS" here: https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2022/roll239.xml

Something is weird...

The link below is a screen shot from the House Clerks site...if you go there and search by "Republican" and "Yea", you get 5, as well as their names.

 

[kzin]

It's a deliberately ridiculous way to interpret the word assemble in the context of the law.
Harassing the writers of the law, I'm fine with.
Misinforming gun owners, not so much.

 

[Saltwater60]

There's a lot of people discussing this on this Twitter post by 'Gun Owners of America':
Some in that thread are saying it depends on the interpretation of the law. The bill redefines "gun manufacturing" to include assembling a working firearm from parts. In the strictest reading of the Bill, it is illegal to put your gun back together if you take it apart, even for maintenance.

Quote from the Bill: “The term ‘manufacturing firearms’ shall include ASSEMBLING A FUNCTIONAL FIREARM or molding, machining, or 3D printing a frame or receiver, and shall not include making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms.”

I'm no law professor, but it would appear some anti-gun prosecutors could interpret this and argue that a gun owner is breaking the law by disassembling and reassembling.

If that’s what it says then that’s what it means IMO. If it’s illegal to assemble a firearm that means no more putting together a working firearm. The entire bill/law needs to be read to ensure it doesn’t exclude cleaning and or maintaining. Even if it does technically if you swap a part or a trigger and then reassemble the firearm does that then become illegal?

Sounds to me it pertaining to ghost guns after reading it.

 

[kzin]

This is federal law.
'Firearm' is the serialized part.
Strip your weapon for cleaning and you still have a firearm and some other parts.
Reassemble and you are not assembling a firearm because you never didn't have one,

Assembling a functional firearm would be things like making a pipe gun from parts, none of which is a legal firearm

 

[BuffNiag]

If that’s what it says then that’s what it means IMO. If it’s illegal to assemble a firearm that means no more putting together a working firearm. The entire bill/law needs to be read to ensure it doesn’t exclude cleaning and or maintaining. Even if it does technically if you swap a part or a trigger and then reassemble the firearm does that then become illegal

Sounds to me it pertaining to ghost guns after reading

Ctrl+F. The words “clean” and “assemble” are not in there.

 

[kzin]

Banning finishing of 80%ers is clearly the primary goal.
Then they try to add language general enough to keep us troublemakers from finding a loophole to do wtf we want

 

[Beerman]

Even if it does technically if you swap a part or a trigger and then reassemble the firearm does that then become illegal?

Sounds to me it pertaining to ghost guns after reading it.

From the bill:

(a) Definitions.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by this Act, is further amended—

(1) in paragraph (10), by adding at the end the following: “The term ‘manufacturing firearms’ shall include assembling a functional firearm or molding, machining, or 3D printing a frame or receiver, and shall not include making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Was the military exempt ?

 

[Steal2B]

If that’s what it says then that’s what it means IMO. If it’s illegal to assemble a firearm that means no more putting together a working firearm. The entire bill/law needs to be read to ensure it doesn’t exclude cleaning and or maintaining. Even if it does technically if you swap a part or a trigger and then reassemble the firearm does that then become illegal?

Sounds to me it pertaining to ghost guns after reading it.

Freaking evil assholes in DC, they did it