kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I blame the jab.
UnitedHealthcare CEO shot, killed outside Midtown Manhattan hotel; suspect sought
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
I am saying that calling this a random attack is like saying the guy in Butler, PA was aiming for the crowd.
Which, I have actually seen people with TDS so bad that they really believed that.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Talking to whom is the million dollar question.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
He probably noticed a dozen of them. What was he going to do about it ?
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Showed the vid to my wife....who is not sharp on glaring details. Her immediate response...."that was a hit".
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
And with public NYC justice system raping of Mr. Penny, no-one dared to intervene. The guy had target fixation and was easy pickings.
Robin
Robin
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I dont know, pick a different spot?
"Police are combing through surveillance video and examining clues the gunman may have left while fleeing the scene.
The words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” were found on the shell casings discovered at the scene of the shooting, ABC News reported, citing police sources."
Either we're all spot on that it's a pissed off guy who watched his family suffer from being denied or going bankrupt. Or, it's a great red herring to confuse detectives.
The words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” were found on the shell casings discovered at the scene of the shooting, ABC News reported, citing police sources."
Either we're all spot on that it's a pissed off guy who watched his family suffer from being denied or going bankrupt. Or, it's a great red herring to confuse detectives.
MuttCat
.223 Rem
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Back shooting an unarmed man. I don't care what his beef is, he deserves a miserable end.
Robin
Robin
Ehhhh, so much being made about this simple killing (hit or not)... When there's dozens per day in NYC!
Why the big deal?
How much resources are being dedicated to "this" killing in contrast to others? If an inch more, why?
Is it because the killer was obviously White?
Or that it is on film...?
What's the difference to a push in robbery where there was multiple deaths?
Selective enforcement and investigating based upon affluence is reprehensible! Unless that family is footing the bill! Special "Class" of citizenry needs to stop...
Just sayin!
Deny, Defend, Depose... Ok, the killer is a Psycho! Obviously... Moving on...
Why the big deal?
How much resources are being dedicated to "this" killing in contrast to others? If an inch more, why?
Is it because the killer was obviously White?
Or that it is on film...?
What's the difference to a push in robbery where there was multiple deaths?
Selective enforcement and investigating based upon affluence is reprehensible! Unless that family is footing the bill! Special "Class" of citizenry needs to stop...
Just sayin!
Deny, Defend, Depose... Ok, the killer is a Psycho! Obviously... Moving on...
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Not a surprise to me.
When my company was sued for $145 million, our insurer, who we had been covered with for over 20 years, immediately denied coverage even though what we were sued for was explicitly called out in the policy. They only agreed to cover us when our own lawyer threatened to sue them. Under duress, they defended us for 8 years, and eventually settled the case on our behalf by paying out $15K. What a disgusting scam that whole situation was. And once that suit settled, that insurer cancelled all of their policies in New Yorkistan, including ours. It took me another 5 years to find a virtually unknown insurer to even write us lesser policy.
In a separate case, I was sued personally for $1.1 million as part of a 16 year campaign of legal harassment. I had carried a personal umbrella liability policy since the 1980's just for any such possibility. When I was sued, I immediately turned it over to my insurer, who of course immediately and forcefully denied it. I didn't have the money to fight them and those suing me at that point. In fact, I was driven right up to the point of filing bankruptcy (mere days before I was to file) before I was finally able to scrape together enough money to hire a lawyer I had known for years who agreed to try and settle it for me. In the end he got the suit (and related harassment) against me dismissed, with prejudice, and my paying out exactly $0.00 to my harassers.
And a side note, - AFTER that insurer denied me coverage, I cancelled that policy. Incredibly, someone from their office called me to ask why I had cancelled it, and to suggest that I should really keep it in place to protect myself! I asked him how fucking stupid he was, and gave him a huge load of shit before I told him to fuck off and never contact me again.
So, while I don't condone cold blooded murder, if it turns out that the shooter had extreme justification in his mind, I will not condemn him.
People and companies should not fuck over others, and expect to get away with it. Sometimes Karma can be a real bitch.
I have now structured my life to make me essentially judgement proof, with little to no assets. Just trying to live out the rest of my life in peace.
YMMV.
1341
.45 acp
I just noticed in the video, several large suv's parked. Probably other vips security, did not notice one them do anything other them start heading out of dodge.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
If he was smart he’d have dumped it in a sewer to destroy DNA.
Bullets found at the scene had writing on them and he bought a water bottle at Starbucks. Not sure if he used cash or card but the cell phone will likely have prints or DNA that they can match to the money. Only will help if he’s in the system.
Also jerk used a silencer so now we won’t be able to have nice things.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Im with you, a professional would have also eliminated ammo that would cause multiple malfunctions. This person didnt test the ammo through the supressed handgun before the attack.
However, most other actions the shooter took shows this was well thought out to avoid being caught.
Funny. I had always heard about how some hitmen preferred revolvers (.22 in particular) as they don't leave brass laying about. Recently, I came across a widow selling off her dead husband's guns, - almost all .22 caliber. One caught my eye along with the cheap price. It is a S&W Model 351, 7 round AirLite revolver designed to shoot .22WMR ammo. She said that if I bought it, she would give all of the ammo she had for it.
Turned out she had over 5,000 rounds. Some FMJ, but surprisingly, many of them are .22WMR subsonic hollow points when fired from a revolver. Interesting. Who the hell shoots .22WMR hollow points?
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
One fellow suggester that this is the pistol the guy used.
I have to admit that sure does look like what I saw the first time I saw the video. Its a 'Welrod' in .32 caliber and must be manually operated after each shot.
Very rare and strange gun, but it does fill the bill from the visual's given.
Robin
I have to admit that sure does look like what I saw the first time I saw the video. Its a 'Welrod' in .32 caliber and must be manually operated after each shot.
Very rare and strange gun, but it does fill the bill from the visual's given.
Robin
Former WaPo reporter says 'we want these executives dead' after murder of health insurance CEO
Former Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz appeared to celebrate UnitedHealthcare CEO Brain Thompson’s brutal murder on her Bluesky account Wednesday.
www.foxnews.com
Regarding the following, I'll state my opinion.
CitiBike - a red herring. He knows those things have a GPS. He was carrying the e-Bike battery by some posted news accounts.
Cell phone - likely a burner. Probably called a useless number to throw people off the trail. Probably has no fingerprints on that as well.
Food Wrapper - probably never touched it at all. Left behind on purpose to throw people off the trail or probably made sure that someone else's DNA is on it.
Disappeared into Central Park - likely had a change of clothing inside the park and another change of clothing after exiting the park, hopped onto the subway, and disappeared into the morning rush hour.
Words on Bullet Casings - deny (likely denied healthcare), defend (defend the rights of citizens), depose (tyrants who run the system)
Remember the villan from "The Equalizer" when Nicolai Itchenko stated that all of the clues left in the apartment by Robert McCall (Denzel Washington) were "all lies".
OK. I have had enough armchair amateur detective snooping for now...
CitiBike - a red herring. He knows those things have a GPS. He was carrying the e-Bike battery by some posted news accounts.
Cell phone - likely a burner. Probably called a useless number to throw people off the trail. Probably has no fingerprints on that as well.
Food Wrapper - probably never touched it at all. Left behind on purpose to throw people off the trail or probably made sure that someone else's DNA is on it.
Disappeared into Central Park - likely had a change of clothing inside the park and another change of clothing after exiting the park, hopped onto the subway, and disappeared into the morning rush hour.
Words on Bullet Casings - deny (likely denied healthcare), defend (defend the rights of citizens), depose (tyrants who run the system)
Remember the villan from "The Equalizer" when Nicolai Itchenko stated that all of the clues left in the apartment by Robert McCall (Denzel Washington) were "all lies".
OK. I have had enough armchair amateur detective snooping for now...
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Apparently our sentiments are pretty much in line with everyone's
www.rollingstone.com
"Maybe his lead exposure he was a preexisting condition "
Social Media Has Little Sympathy for Murdered Health Insurance Exec
Americans on social media showed virtually no sympathy for the apparently targeted killing of UnitedHealthcare's CEO by mystery gunman in New York.
www.rollingstone.com
"Maybe his lead exposure he was a preexisting condition "
Parzival
.357 mag
FBI dude on Fox this morning said he had a slide lock device to limit noise.
Trying to beat ShotSpotter, which only works 13% of the time anyway and is a total waste of resources.
Trying to beat ShotSpotter, which only works 13% of the time anyway and is a total waste of resources.
What is a slide lock device? To minimize the sound of a slide cycling? Seems insignificant compared the sound of the actual gunshot. As for Shot Spotter, he didn't stick around long enough for any cops to show up before he fled into the alley and then pedaled off into the wind.
MuttCat
.223 Rem
Unintended Consequences
If they do catch him he left quite a bit of evidence behind. Bullet casings and food wrappers with his fingerprints or dna. I'm sure he thought he was being clever and sending a message with the words on the casings but that will probably help the police narrow down the search. This will be a good test of whether the surveillance state can catch just about anyone (if they want to).
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Good assessment of the NYC CEO assassination made by Colion Noir.
This explains the words on the bullet casings (maybe)...
www.thedailybeast.com
Title of Book About Insurance Companies Matches Bullet Casings at Crime Scene
People are linking the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson to a book called: “Delay, Deny, Defend: Why Insurance Companies Don’t Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It.”