UnitedHealthcare CEO shot, killed outside Midtown Manhattan hotel; suspect sought

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I understand that this was a "sensational" killing - deliberately targeted Sr. Executive, but call me insensitive - I'm really getting sick of the knob slobbering love fest the media is making out of this guy. Every single article ends with the same few paragraphs extolling how he was SO LOVED, SO HARDWORKING, SO DEDICATED, SO THIS, SO THAT... Whatever. So are many of the people murdered in that cesspool of a city and they get three lines on the 26th page. Still the same media message - worship money, power, privilege, and influence. How about no?
 
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tgenec86 said:
I understand that this was a "sensational" killing - deliberately targeted Sr. Executive, but call me insensitive - I'm really getting sick of the knob slobbering love fest the media is making out of this guy. Every single article ends with the same few paragraphs extolling how he was SO LOVED, SO HARDWORKING, SO DEDICATED, SO THIS, SO THAT... Whatever. So are many of the people murdered in that cesspool of a city and they get three lines on the 26th page. Still the same media message - worship money, power, privilege, and influence. How about no?
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If it matters.... I could not care any less about him being dead.
 
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If that is the case she didn’t pay a whole hell of a lot for a professional !
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Professional lol.

He was photographed at Starbucks.
He left his prints on a water bottle that he threw out.
He had cameras all over his face.
He left casings with writings on them.
His getaway vehicle was an e-bike.
 
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S&W Fan said:
If that is the case she didn’t pay a whole hell of a lot for a professional !
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Maybe it was her boyfriend. Maybe the husband was going to divorce her and drop insurance on her. It could also explain how the killer knew where to find the husband.

Don't get me wrong. I don't actually believe any of this is actually what happened, but stuff like this happens all the time.
 
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Dr. Evil said:
Professional lol.

He was photographed at Starbucks.
He left his prints on a water bottle that he threw out.
He had cameras all over his face.
He left casings with writings on them.
His getaway vehicle was an e-bike.
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Almost as if this guy was a Patsy, Starting to wonder. leaving the writing on the cases was to easy,tossing the phone, DNA on the water bottle, which everybody has scene in true crime shows, smileing for the camera, the motive was spelled out in huge black and white letters for the public to follow . My first assumption was just a dude who had been wronged . Now Im starting to wonder.
 
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lrick said:
Unless the guy changed jackets and backpacks, I don't think these two are the same guy. Maybe something in the camera footage shows differently.

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Colors are different. You could say it's just color rendering but I don't think that would alter the contrast as much. Black straps on the top pic, light gray on the bottom.
The hood in the top pic appears to be cotton, but in the bottom it looks shiny like nylon.
Top jacket is full length zipper, bottom looks more like a pull-over.
Chest pockets on the top with a label on the edge of the left pocket flap. None of it on the bottom pic.



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These are obvious differences. Why are they both being presented as the suspect? Patsy?
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I have to say the guy with the mask doesnt really look like the other guy. It could be, but I have my doubts
 
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libertysnake said:
I was reading the guy dumped the phone he had immediately. This is definitely calculated. He knew they'd track him via the towers, so he dumped the burner immediately, got on a bike and then dumped the bike.

No way this is random.
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who was he talking to ? why bring the phone ? Everybody and his mother now knows its a tracking device.

Shit is starting to look to obvious
 
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Like I said - a good test of the surveillance state in action when they want to be. They have identified how he arrived in NY (bus from Atlanta) and where he stayed (hostel). They believe the photo ID he used was fake.

abc7ny.com

UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting: Suspect arrived in New York on bus from Atlanta: ABC News sources

Law enforcement sources told ABC News that the suspect went through Port Authority Bus Terminal and detectives have been looking to see if they can spot him on video.
abc7ny.com abc7ny.com
 
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Ok ok. Firstly, the gun was NOT a welrod or anything like that lol. You can clearly see it's a semi auto with a can on it by the profile. Also, where are we getting this info about sub sonic rounds and making the gun malfunction? Cans work perfectly well with subs. That's kind of the whole point. I'm thinking the "malfunctioning" may have not been malfunctioning at all and possibly purposeful. To get make a tilting lock pistol a single shot you would simply attach a can with no Neilsen device on the barrel. The reason for doing this would be to eliminate port pop resulting in even greater suppression. Hell, you could even simply hold the slide forward with your thumb. This will work for both super and sub sonic ammo. I own several cans so this is from experience and ACTUAL use of them. If they somehow determined he used water or some other fluid medium in the silencer then that will confirm for me that he really knew what he was doing.

ETA: a couple of other give aways that it's a semi auto is the gas coming out of the ejection port from it opening slightly. Also, he is ejecting and chambering in one fluent motion. A welrod say, would have 0 gas coming from the ejection port and needs to be twisted to be locked.
 
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