US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

[stokes]

Anyone who can't understand that is seriously a dunce.

From someone that thinks the earth is flat hmmm.............

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[tirwin1]

It appears China was a driving force for the ceasefire:

Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China).

In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators to Beijing prior to the terms of agreement with Trump. The summoning happened right after Trump said he was going to target the full force of the U.S. military against Iranian infrastructure.

Why does that matter to China? Belt and Road. Beijing has built a railway from China into Iran for the transport of goods and raw materials (including energy products) out of Iran (sanctions avoidance) in exchange for shipments of weapons. If President Trump targeted the railway infrastructure, in combination with the oil shipments being hampered, ¹China would be in a very bad place. Hence the summoning to get a ceasefire.

Susan Kokinda on Trump's Gambit: Civilizational Expansion or Nihilistic Western Decline - The Last Refuge

Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China). In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[SonOfSun]

Ultimately this has given Iran more geopolitical global power. Tehran has seen how cutting off the Strait of Hormuz can help it counter asymmetry of military power. You don't need to kill your enemy, just choke off their resources and they'll cry uncle.

 

[FP1201]

It appears China was a driving force for the ceasefire:

Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China).

In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators to Beijing prior to the terms of agreement with Trump. The summoning happened right after Trump said he was going to target the full force of the U.S. military against Iranian infrastructure.

Why does that matter to China? Belt and Road. Beijing has built a railway from China into Iran for the transport of goods and raw materials (including energy products) out of Iran (sanctions avoidance) in exchange for shipments of weapons. If President Trump targeted the railway infrastructure, in combination with the oil shipments being hampered, ¹China would be in a very bad place. Hence the summoning to get a ceasefire.

Susan Kokinda on Trump's Gambit: Civilizational Expansion or Nihilistic Western Decline - The Last Refuge

Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China). In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators...

theconservativetreehouse.com

If you make everything, you control everything, and if someone threatens the supply chain right down to the kids digging in the mud, then everything above stops...China males everything and has plenty of slave/subservient people they press into Labor and when the supply of material and petroleum is threatened, their whole operation starts grinding to a halt...they DO want their Trains running on time.

 

[Defilade]

From someone that thinks the earth is flat hmmm.............

How's that Artimus II doing? Glued to the TV lately? Lol

 

[Defilade]

Does that mean that Iran *doesn't* want to kill all of us ? They might not be the biggest threat, but they certainly are a threat.

And they're a lot easier to eliminate than the debt.

I think the biggest threat is actually the domestic terrorists that call themselves the left, the debt is just one of their weapons.

But that doesn't mean I don't have to worry about being mugged by a common criminal.

You scared bro? Pretty sure alot of people want us dead. US has had them contained for decades. But once again the scary boogeyman "They have weapons of mass destruction" bullshit comes out. What's next on the doomer list? Another virus from the wet market? Maybe a climate disaster and we need to reduce our usage or lock down? Must I list a bunch more false flags imposed on the people to steal our money or rights? Shoe bomber maybe? Are ya getting it yet?

 

[JunkBoxFull]

It appears China was a driving force for the ceasefire:

Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China).

In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators to Beijing prior to the terms of agreement with Trump. The summoning happened right after Trump said he was going to target the full force of the U.S. military against Iranian infrastructure.

Why does that matter to China? Belt and Road. Beijing has built a railway from China into Iran for the transport of goods and raw materials (including energy products) out of Iran (sanctions avoidance) in exchange for shipments of weapons. If President Trump targeted the railway infrastructure, in combination with the oil shipments being hampered, ¹China would be in a very bad place. Hence the summoning to get a ceasefire.

Susan Kokinda on Trump's Gambit: Civilizational Expansion or Nihilistic Western Decline - The Last Refuge

Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China). In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators...

theconservativetreehouse.com

I hope President Trump hits there infrastructure anyways. This will finish chynaw instantly (which should have been done a long time ago). Lets just end the shit an be done with it. We`re NEVER going to get ALL the terrorist`s in Iran without smokin most the country, return them to the stone age, might as well just flush the toilet and be done with it instead of just farting in the toilet bowel. Yup, innocent iranians would expire, but let it be a lesson to others not to let your country be run by rogue governments. We need to get AMERICA FIRST back on track. By eliminating terrorists, we win!

 

[tirwin1]

If you make everything, you control everything, and if someone threatens the supply chain right down to the kids digging in the mud, then everything above stops...

Not necessarily. China's economy essentially imports vast quantities of raw materials and exports vast amounts of finished products. This can only happen with free movement of ships/goods to and from China. If the imports get interrupted the exports do as well and their economy falters. Their problem is they don't have a military, specifically a navy, that can keep the sea lanes open and/or escort their ships.

I would not say they control everything. Because if they can't guarantee their inputs and outputs they are beholden to those that can like the US.

My guess is the rail network from iran to China was deliberately left alone from any targeting. But if things go south it will probably be deliberately targeted.

 

[SonOfSun]

I hope President Trump hits there infrastructure anyways. This will finish chynaw instantly (which should have been done a long time ago). Lets just end the shit an be done with it. We`re NEVER going to get ALL the terrorist`s in Iran without smokin most the country, return them to the stone age, might as well just flush the toilet and be done with it instead of just farting in the toilet bowel. Yup, innocent iranians would expire, but let it be a lesson to others not to let your country be run by rogue governments. We need to get AMERICA FIRST back on track. By eliminating terrorists, we win!

Israel causes just as many if not more problems.

Lets make a deal. We nuke Iran AND Israel off the map.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Not necessarily. China's economy essentially imports vast quantities of raw materials and exports vast amounts of finished products. This can only happen with free movement of ships/goods to and from China. If the imports get interrupted the exports do as well and their economy falters. Their problem is they don't have a military, specifically a navy, that can keep the sea lanes open and/or escort their ships.

I would not say they control everything. Because if they can't guarantee their inputs and outputs they are beholden to those that can like the US.

My guess is the rail network from iran to China was deliberately left alone from any targeting. But if things go south it will probably be deliberately targeted.

The bigger problem is, is that we`re in bed with chynaw way to deep now. Shoulda been handled at the end of WW2.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Israel causes just as many if not more problems.

Lets make a deal. We nuke Iran AND Israel off the map.

We can`t nuke Israel yet. They owe us bigtime. After they pay us back (for keeping their asses from getting nuked), then we can cut the cord.

 

[spat]

You scared bro? Pretty sure alot of people want us dead. US has had them contained for decades. But once again the scary boogeyman "They have weapons of mass destruction" bullshit comes out. What's next on the doomer list? Another virus from the wet market? Maybe a climate disaster and we need to reduce our usage or lock down? Must I list a bunch more false flags imposed on the people to steal our money or rights? Shoe bomber maybe? Are ya getting it yet?

So we should just ignore regimes that chant "Death to America" and let them fester until they *can* do something about it ?

They're behind most of the terrorism in the whole world. We're better off with them gone. That's enough.

 

[spat]

The bigger problem is, is that we`re in bed with chynaw way to deep now. Shoulda been handled at the end of WW2.

China wasn't a problem until Nixon started getting friendly with them.

Before that they were just another shithole starving their own citizens.

But, you're not wrong about WWII. We should have backed the nationalists better.

Imagine if the whole mainland was like Taiwain.
Taiwain is the China we fought with in WWII.

 

[SonOfSun]

Israel causes just as many if not more problems.

Lets make a deal. We nuke Iran AND Israel off the map.

Write them off, like a bad loan.