Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
I cannot, as its a fairly small industry. Lets just say its a major luxury component of one of the priciest things a president, CEO, sultan or prince would have at their disposal.
US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)
- Thread starter TEOTWAWKI inc.
- Start date
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Vaginal lube for their goo-mod?
A bidet?
spat
.950 JDJ
Not sure it works like that.
The GBU-57 "Massive Ordinance Penetrator" is a 30,000 lb bomb 20 feet long that is specifically designed to destroy *very* deeply buried targets.
It can penetrate *60 feet* of reinforced concrete or 200 feet of normal earth and rock.
The normal "bunker busters" like the GBU-72 that Isreal can use are *much* smaller at 5000lbs.
It's not just a matter of dropping 10x as many of the smaller bombs and tunneling your way down.
And the Fordow site is buried so deeply it would likely take multiple hits from the GBU-57.
If that job could have been done with a flight of B52s dropping dozens of GBU-72s, they never would have designed the GBU-57.
If Isreal could destroy it with GBU-72s they already would have. I'm pretty sure they stock them in inventory, and it's basically the best bunker buster anyone has that can be dropped by anything other than the spicy dorito.
GBU-57A/B MOP - Wikipedia
GBU-72 - Wikipedia
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Somewhere I read Iran had a 5.something earthquake today 
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
Somewhere I read Iran had a 5.something earthquake today
AI Overview
A magnitude 5.1 earthquake struck near Tehran, Iran, at a depth of 10 kilometers. The earthquake's epicenter was located in Semnan, approximately 145 miles east of Tehran, according to The Mirror US and Kurdistan24. Tremors were felt in Tehran. There have been no reports of casualties or damage so far. The earthquake occurred amid rising tensions between Iran and Israel, with reports of Israeli strikes on Iranian targets, including the Fordow nuclear facility.
There have been 2 other earthquakes in Iran over the last few days.
A 2.5 and a 4.3. In addition to today's 5.1.
1:00 video
Iran is one of the most earthquake-prone nations in the world.
Probably the most bombed at the moment too.
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Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
Can bombs cause earthquakes?
AI Overview
Yes, bombs can cause earthquakes, but the resulting seismic events are generally much smaller than natural earthquakes. While large explosions, especially nuclear detonations, can trigger seismic waves and even small earthquakes, they are unlikely to cause major tectonic shifts or trigger large, destructive earthquakes.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
AI Overview
Yes, bombs can cause earthquakes, but the resulting seismic events are generally much smaller than natural earthquakes. While large explosions, especially nuclear detonations, can trigger seismic waves and even small earthquakes, they are unlikely to cause major tectonic shifts or trigger large, destructive earthquakes.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
- Seismic Waves:
Any explosion, including bombs, generates seismic waves that can be detected by seismometers. These waves are similar to those produced by earthquakes, but the energy released by a bomb is typically much smaller.
- Induced Earthquakes:
While a bomb's impact can trigger an earthquake, it's usually a small, localized event. The energy released by the explosion is not comparable to the energy stored in tectonic plates and released during a major earthquake.
- Nuclear Explosions:
Nuclear explosions, due to their immense power, can generate stronger seismic waves and potentially trigger earthquakes, but these are still typically smaller than natural quakes. - Tectonic Plates:
Earthquakes are primarily caused by the movement and friction of tectonic plates. Bomb explosions, even nuclear ones, do not have the capacity to significantly alter the movement or stress on these plates to trigger a major earthquake. - Examples:
Historical examples like the Tsar Bomba (a 50-58 megaton nuclear weapon) generated a seismic event registering between 5.0 and 5.25 on the Richter scale. While significant, this is far smaller than the magnitude 8.9 earthquake that struck Japan in 2011. Similarly, North Korea's 2017 nuclear test triggered a smaller earthquake, but not a major tectonic event.
- Nuclear Explosions:
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Internet rumors of a significant B2 and tanker deployment from CONUS last night heading out over the Pacific.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Not rumors, it's confirmed as there are photos of the B2s leaving Missouri last night. Which leads me to believe they were intentionally taken by the .gov and posted on X for Iran to see. Maximum saber rattling.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
I'm sure everybody, Xi, Putin and all the rest know this. Its a great deterrent from them doing the stupid shit they like to do to fuck with us, coming just short of provoking us past the point. Last time we had a leader like this was Reagan. Thats why I find it so ridiculous that the left keeps trying to portray Russia and China as pushing to support Trump, he's the last guy any of them want to deal with. He is a real "loose cannon"
Xi and China are as much a Potemkin Village as the American Economy and going to War with a major power can easily bankrupt both.
China has sneakiness and a long running espionage against the US and ostensibly our Allies, more Soldiers than we do, but I doubt many are motivated by much more that the prospect of being executed by their own Leaders for a lack of motivation, and while We are pretty much disorganized, I'll just bet that between the Hunters, Red-Necks, 'Bangers and anybody else with a Gun and something to loose, it wouldn't be easy once it's known that Foreign Soldiers in Uniform are fair game without recourse of which I suspect they know this and plan accordingly.
Russia is trying to restore its former Glory (and for all the propaganda from both sides) they were a strong and resilient People best left to their own accords.
You might hate your neighbor, but actually talking to him will net you more than "fuck you" and walking away...haven't got to like him, but getting somewhat along has to be better than war, at least until it isn't, then you've got to totally exterminate them all.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
If that doesn't tell ya its controlled information, I dont know what does. I realized this when I was a young guy. Information is power, No way are they just gonna let journalists ruin carreers, plans, billions of dollars at stake , The highest levels of the press are complicit.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Looks like that iron dome is nothing of the sort.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
"Quantity has a quality of its own" -Joey Stalin.
I read a news report two or three hours ago that B2 Bombers, the only aircraft capable of delivering the Bunker Buster, are on their way to Guam.
Now I can't find it.
Is it true? Is it false?
Was it a leak that was deleted?
Has anyone else read or heard this?
Now I can't find it.
Is it true? Is it false?
Was it a leak that was deleted?
Has anyone else read or heard this?
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I just read we bombed them.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Yep trump dumped on em. Can't say they didn't ask for it.
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
IMHO, I think what everyone needs to keep in mind is that Trump understands the media and the use of it in anything his administration does.
B2's, evacuations, vessel movements and the like are all prudent movements when labeling Iran a threat to our military targets. Not offensive. Iran already knows that Trump will target their leaders if engaged. But this is still a support operation with Israel leading it with a goal in mind that they can accept. Iran may know that as it has signaled to Trump, stop Israel and negotiations can begin. But intel on the ground may indicate Israel isn't satisfied that whatever their true goals are, haven't been met. So Trump continues with his solution. Come back to the table.
Regime change is not happening without boots on the ground. But its a great talking point for deflection and get the media going. That goal hasn't worked in my life time and no reason that trend will change. But the media is running with it.
With Democrats, Republicans, UK and EU aligning on this Iran threat, I think Trump is extremely skeptical as he should be. Trump in office for the next 3.5 years with Vance in the wings for eight, is considered and existential threat to the world order. They have invested trillions in that goal and Trump can destroy it all. Up rooting banking norms and resetting global banking. We have to take notice that China and Russia haven't really done much other than maybe get caught up in the military assistance angle. The same as what we, the US are doing in out roles in Ukraine, Israel and South China sea.
China and Russia are targets of the New World Order. We saw the full court press with the last administration with regime change in Russia the goal. I knew then, the EU globalists were calling the shots in the WH. Their policies exactly the same in the EU as here.
They have no influence or control now. Their funding gone with no NGO's to funnel it to them. Look at the DNC, going broke.
I'm still banking on Trump to play them all. With every missile Israel and Iran fire, they draw down their stock piles and replacements not a guarantee.
Taking down the two largest threats that destabilize middle east, is a good thing and Trump signaled what his intentions are for the middle east in his speech when he was last there. No wars or threats of wars. Deal made to ensure the region is prosperous which will maintain peace. We need to stay out of it right now with the information known.
Edit- it looks like we took out some site. Probably that earth quake stuff we heard. Anyway, we will find out if Iran has sleeper cells in shortly. Or those facilities were negotiated to be destroyed. Nothing off the table when trillions are at stake.
B2's, evacuations, vessel movements and the like are all prudent movements when labeling Iran a threat to our military targets. Not offensive. Iran already knows that Trump will target their leaders if engaged. But this is still a support operation with Israel leading it with a goal in mind that they can accept. Iran may know that as it has signaled to Trump, stop Israel and negotiations can begin. But intel on the ground may indicate Israel isn't satisfied that whatever their true goals are, haven't been met. So Trump continues with his solution. Come back to the table.
Regime change is not happening without boots on the ground. But its a great talking point for deflection and get the media going. That goal hasn't worked in my life time and no reason that trend will change. But the media is running with it.
With Democrats, Republicans, UK and EU aligning on this Iran threat, I think Trump is extremely skeptical as he should be. Trump in office for the next 3.5 years with Vance in the wings for eight, is considered and existential threat to the world order. They have invested trillions in that goal and Trump can destroy it all. Up rooting banking norms and resetting global banking. We have to take notice that China and Russia haven't really done much other than maybe get caught up in the military assistance angle. The same as what we, the US are doing in out roles in Ukraine, Israel and South China sea.
China and Russia are targets of the New World Order. We saw the full court press with the last administration with regime change in Russia the goal. I knew then, the EU globalists were calling the shots in the WH. Their policies exactly the same in the EU as here.
They have no influence or control now. Their funding gone with no NGO's to funnel it to them. Look at the DNC, going broke.
I'm still banking on Trump to play them all. With every missile Israel and Iran fire, they draw down their stock piles and replacements not a guarantee.
Taking down the two largest threats that destabilize middle east, is a good thing and Trump signaled what his intentions are for the middle east in his speech when he was last there. No wars or threats of wars. Deal made to ensure the region is prosperous which will maintain peace. We need to stay out of it right now with the information known.
Edit- it looks like we took out some site. Probably that earth quake stuff we heard. Anyway, we will find out if Iran has sleeper cells in shortly. Or those facilities were negotiated to be destroyed. Nothing off the table when trillions are at stake.
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The fight is on....
When we reported the b2s earlier that was it. We saw it coming.
When we reported the b2s earlier that was it. We saw it coming.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I hope that our personnel at other Middle Eastern bases can defend themselves. May our troops be protected.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Certainly decreased the near-term risk of us being in a nuclear exchange with Iran.