I bet it would blow your minds if I told you, i know for a FACT that the Army was involved. A FACT!!
US Army DID seize Dominion Servers in Germany
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kev74
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Anyone who was paying attention heard about Sidney Powell about 2 years ago when she started representing General Flynn. She made a lot of outrageous claims about misconduct on the part of the government. Every one of those was since proven to be true.
Remember that time when the guy with the Winston Churchill avatar said you needed proof to call someone a liar? That was a good time!
So where's the proof? You're calling someone a liar because you weren't spoon fed whatever your little mind has deemed to be the end-all-be-all. We're in the middle of the play and you're crying about not knowing the ending.
A lot of the independent alternative news discussion forums before election day were predicting 79 days of he'll between election day and inauguration day. We're only 1/2 way there.
A lot of us are or were making hopeful observations and predictions. Only one though is hypocritically calling someone a liar without evidence before the game plays out.
spat
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The only thing I can say I know for a fact about this election was that it was conducted in a manner in which widespread fraud could occur with very little evidence. That alone should invalidate it, regardless of whether you can find evidence or not.
And that is not "sour grapes because our guy lost".
We were shouting about that from the rooftops, and filing lawsuits to try and stop it for months before the election occurred.
"You can't conduct an election with these changes, people won't trust the outcome"
election happens
"OMG, why won't you guys trust the results of the election ?"
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Deception 101 -- Primer on Deception (fas.org)
DECEPTION 101―PRIMER ON DECEPTION Joseph W. Caddell December 2004
The views expressed in this report are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government. This report is cleared for public release; distribution is unlimited. ***** This monograph was funded by the U.S. Army War College External Research Associates Program. Information on this program is available on our website, http://www.carlisle.army.mil/ssi/, at the Publishing button. ***** This monograph is based on a presentation made at the Conference on Strategic Deception in Modern Democracies: Ethical, Legal, and Policy Challenges, sponsored by the U.S. Army War College, the U.S. Naval Academy, and the Triangle Institute of Security Studies on October 31, 2003, at the William C. Friday Conference Center, Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ***** Comments pertaining to this report are invited and should be forwarded to: Director, Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College, 122 Forbes Ave, Carlisle, PA 17013-5244. Copies of this report may be obtained from the Publications Office by calling (717) 245-4133, FAX (717) 245-3820, or by e-mail at SSI_Publishing@carlisle.army.mil ***** All Strategic Studies Institute (SSI) monographs are available on the SSI Homepage for electronic dissemination. SSI’s Homepage address is: http
This monograph reviews the basic concepts related to “deception.” The author, Dr. Joseph Caddell, defines terms, provides historical examples, and discusses problems associated with deception. His monograph provides a general overview, a “primer,” and is not directed at those who already possess a working knowledge of deception operations. Nevertheless, given the complex and ever changing nature of deception in the political-military environment, it may serve as a useful reminder of the basic assumptions and methods concerning the subject. The Strategic Studies Institute is pleased to publish this work as part of our External Research Associates Program. DOUGLAS C. LOVELACE, JR. Director Strategic Studies Institute
In the economic and political arenas, deception may appear in a wide variety of forms. Indeed, cynical observers might argue that a synonym for economic disinformation is “advertising.” In any case, examining the use of deception in marketing helps illustrate the difference between “fabrication and manipulation.” If false information is created and presented as true, this is fabrication. It is fabricated for the purpose of disinformation and is simply not true. Manipulation, on the other hand, is the use of information which is technically true, but is being presented out of context in order to create a false implication. This deception may be achieved by leaving out information or by associating valid information in such a way as to create false correlations. In the advertising world, companies usually avoid making false claims based on “fabricated” information. The laws against false advertising make such behavior problematical. Presenting “true” information “manipulated” to create
a false impression, however, is difficult to prosecute. An example of such activity occurred in the gasoline shortages of the 1970s when some automobile manufacturers advertised cars with inefficient fuel consumption by noting how the range of their vehicles compared to smaller, more fuel efficient automobiles. They simply neglected to point out that their gas tanks were considerably larger than those in the smaller vehicles. The distinction between fabrication and manipulation is relevant to military deception operations. Both forms have proven useful in the history of warfare. Dummy weapons and false orders “leaked” to the enemy are examples of fabrication. But when it is impossible to disguise the presence of large forces or an interest in a given area, partial truths―manipulation―may prove more advantageous.3
DECEPTION 101―PRIMER ON DECEPTION Joseph W. Caddell December 2004
The views expressed in this report are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government. This report is cleared for public release; distribution is unlimited. ***** This monograph was funded by the U.S. Army War College External Research Associates Program. Information on this program is available on our website, http://www.carlisle.army.mil/ssi/, at the Publishing button. ***** This monograph is based on a presentation made at the Conference on Strategic Deception in Modern Democracies: Ethical, Legal, and Policy Challenges, sponsored by the U.S. Army War College, the U.S. Naval Academy, and the Triangle Institute of Security Studies on October 31, 2003, at the William C. Friday Conference Center, Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ***** Comments pertaining to this report are invited and should be forwarded to: Director, Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College, 122 Forbes Ave, Carlisle, PA 17013-5244. Copies of this report may be obtained from the Publications Office by calling (717) 245-4133, FAX (717) 245-3820, or by e-mail at SSI_Publishing@carlisle.army.mil ***** All Strategic Studies Institute (SSI) monographs are available on the SSI Homepage for electronic dissemination. SSI’s Homepage address is: http
This monograph reviews the basic concepts related to “deception.” The author, Dr. Joseph Caddell, defines terms, provides historical examples, and discusses problems associated with deception. His monograph provides a general overview, a “primer,” and is not directed at those who already possess a working knowledge of deception operations. Nevertheless, given the complex and ever changing nature of deception in the political-military environment, it may serve as a useful reminder of the basic assumptions and methods concerning the subject. The Strategic Studies Institute is pleased to publish this work as part of our External Research Associates Program. DOUGLAS C. LOVELACE, JR. Director Strategic Studies Institute
In the economic and political arenas, deception may appear in a wide variety of forms. Indeed, cynical observers might argue that a synonym for economic disinformation is “advertising.” In any case, examining the use of deception in marketing helps illustrate the difference between “fabrication and manipulation.” If false information is created and presented as true, this is fabrication. It is fabricated for the purpose of disinformation and is simply not true. Manipulation, on the other hand, is the use of information which is technically true, but is being presented out of context in order to create a false implication. This deception may be achieved by leaving out information or by associating valid information in such a way as to create false correlations. In the advertising world, companies usually avoid making false claims based on “fabricated” information. The laws against false advertising make such behavior problematical. Presenting “true” information “manipulated” to create
a false impression, however, is difficult to prosecute. An example of such activity occurred in the gasoline shortages of the 1970s when some automobile manufacturers advertised cars with inefficient fuel consumption by noting how the range of their vehicles compared to smaller, more fuel efficient automobiles. They simply neglected to point out that their gas tanks were considerably larger than those in the smaller vehicles. The distinction between fabrication and manipulation is relevant to military deception operations. Both forms have proven useful in the history of warfare. Dummy weapons and false orders “leaked” to the enemy are examples of fabrication. But when it is impossible to disguise the presence of large forces or an interest in a given area, partial truths―manipulation―may prove more advantageous.3
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
On April 14, 1846, an American military patrol engaged a Mexican force south of the Nueces River in the newly annexed state of Texas. There were 16 American casualties. On May 11, President James K. Polk announced that “Mexico has passed the boundary of the United States, has invaded our territory, and shed American blood upon the American soil.” In fact, the presence of U.S. troops in the disputed area south of the Nueces was a questionable action. The area between the Nueces and Rio Grande rivers was disputed territory, and negotiations were underway to resolve the issue. Neither nation was supposed to have troops there. Somehow this fact was left out of Polk’s impassioned call to arms. A young congressman from Illinois raised awkward questions about “the sacred spot.” Indeed, concern by young Mr. Lincoln and others in the Congress that information 3 was being “manipulated” led to the famous “Spot Resolution.” This registered suspicion concerning Polk’s rhetoric and signified a growing regional division, but it did not prevent the MexicanAmerican War.4 In 1898 the destruction of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana Harbor created a situation where manipulation of information, primarily by the media rather than by the government, played a critical role in precipitating the war with Spain. The explosion, which destroyed the Maine on the night of February 15, 1898, has been examined by investigators for the past 106 years. The conclusions are varied and often contradictory. The initial board of inquiry (March 1898) was unable to arrive at a definite conclusion.5 American newspapers, however, were not so ambivalent. Nor were they restrained. Speculation as to the Spanish motives for destroying the Maine ran rampant. The strained relations between Madrid and Washington deteriorated even further. The “yellow press” did not cause the subsequent Spanish-American War by itself, but its role was seminal.6 This event provides an interesting case study where political, military, and economic interests intertwined to the point that one is hard pressed to segregate them. To what extent is the government responsible for correcting false impressions which appear in a free press? What if a government takes advantage of fabricated or manipulated data to serve its own policy ends?
Be advised, This is what intelligence agency's do .You should really read through the PDF and understand Were dealing with deciept on a daily basis regardless of the election.
Be advised, This is what intelligence agency's do .You should really read through the PDF and understand Were dealing with deciept on a daily basis regardless of the election.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I choose to believe you GOP. Just know, the entirety of your integrity is at stake if you are playing fast and loose with us.
Robin
Whoa, slow down my backwoods friend... I did not say that I did have proof, I said " I bet it would blow your minds if I told you, i know for a FACT that the Army was involved. A FACT!! ". Granted, I did not say that I do not either.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
So.... If Powell proves her case, but it takes a few more weeks, is she still lying?
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Is this some kind of mea culpa
Robin the Rube
Nope, just a guy that is still bored trying to fuck around a bit.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Yep, I figured.
Robin Yokel
Robin Yokel
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
My sources tell me , "probably something to it". Thats it, weird.
Robin
Robin
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
If Georgia's Dominion machines were spot on, why did they fight tooth and nail, successfully, to keep the machines free from impound, prevented from being wiped clean, obstructed from a forensic audit?
If there was nothing to hide, then why hide 'nothing'? Their actions spoke volumes. The judge even reversed his own ruling 20 minutes after making the ruling. Nothing suspicious here. Move right along.
If there was nothing to hide, then why hide 'nothing'? Their actions spoke volumes. The judge even reversed his own ruling 20 minutes after making the ruling. Nothing suspicious here. Move right along.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
If a tree falls in the woods and a judge didn’t hear it... Sorry, but the play by the left is legal ropa-dope, and they seem to be very good at it. So far it’s worked for Hillary, Rice, Brennan, Comey, Strozck, Page, Obama, Kerry, Biden, etc. I seriously hope Trump has the balls to go all out with EO-13848. We’ll know in 4 days.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
And OJ was innocent. Just sayin'.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Soros-connected Vote-counting Firm Expands in U.S.
Scytl, a Spanish vote-tabulating firm with ties to billionaire globalist George Soros, is expanding its reach into U.S. state and local elections. By Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.
thenewamerican.com
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”
― Joseph Stalin
tags: vote
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Seems like Sidney may end up getting her day in court over dominion after all. My only hope is that she is not preemptively pardoned for this libelous campaign—hopefully she can have suits brought against her in ways to obviate such an effort by trump if he attempts it.
finance.yahoo.com
www.cnbc.com
Here is their statement direct to Powell:
www.dominionvoting.com
Defamation Law Can Slow the Plague of Fake News
(Bloomberg Opinion) -- Misinformation and fake news are now threatening public health and endangering democracy itself. What might help contain the problem? Part of the answer lies in a very old remedy: the law of defamation. To see how this might work, consider the situation of Smartmatic and...
Dominion Voting warns Fox News, Sean Hannity, other conservative outlets that defamation lawsuits are imminent
Media allies of President Trump, such as Fox News, have been sent letters by Dominion Voting Systems about election conspiracy claims.
www.cnbc.com
Here is their statement direct to Powell:
Dominion Demands Retraction of Sidney Powell's Defamatory Falsehoods - Dominion Voting Systems
Latest News December 17, 2020 Dominion Demands Retraction of Sidney Powell’s Defamatory Falsehoods DENVER, Colorado – Yesterday, legal representatives for Dominion Voting Systems issued a letter to Sidney Powell regarding her baseless and false accusations about the company over the past two...
www.dominionvoting.com
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ArmedCorgi
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Surely you've heard the phrase, "The best defense is a good offense"?Seems like Sidney may end up getting her day in court over dominion after all. My only hope is that she is not preemptively pardoned for this libelous campaign—hopefully she can have suits brought against her in ways to obviate such an effort by trump if he attempts it.
Defamation Law Can Slow the Plague of Fake News
(Bloomberg Opinion) -- Misinformation and fake news are now threatening public health and endangering democracy itself. What might help contain the problem? Part of the answer lies in a very old remedy: the law of defamation. To see how this might work, consider the situation of Smartmatic and...
Dominion Voting warns Fox News, Sean Hannity, other conservative outlets that defamation lawsuits are imminent
Media allies of President Trump, such as Fox News, have been sent letters by Dominion Voting Systems about election conspiracy claims.
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You mean similar to impeaching a sitting President with charges you're actually guilty of?
Nothing new there. The Deep state corrupt bastards have done nothing else but go after Trump.Seems like Sidney may end up getting her day in court over dominion after all. My only hope is that she is not preemptively pardoned for this libelous campaign—hopefully she can have suits brought against her in ways to obviate such an effort by trump if he attempts it.
Defamation Law Can Slow the Plague of Fake News
(Bloomberg Opinion) -- Misinformation and fake news are now threatening public health and endangering democracy itself. What might help contain the problem? Part of the answer lies in a very old remedy: the law of defamation. To see how this might work, consider the situation of Smartmatic and...
Dominion Voting warns Fox News, Sean Hannity, other conservative outlets that defamation lawsuits are imminent
Media allies of President Trump, such as Fox News, have been sent letters by Dominion Voting Systems about election conspiracy claims.
Here is their statement direct to Powell:
Dominion Demands Retraction of Sidney Powell's Defamatory Falsehoods - Dominion Voting Systems
Latest News December 17, 2020 Dominion Demands Retraction of Sidney Powell’s Defamatory Falsehoods DENVER, Colorado – Yesterday, legal representatives for Dominion Voting Systems issued a letter to Sidney Powell regarding her baseless and false accusations about the company over the past two...
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
It makes sense though. If I were Dominion, I'd be suing proactively. Any ambulence chasing lawyer will tell you that even if you are in the wrong, you sue the other party first.
ArmedCorgi
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BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
"There was a tweet in German."
Can we please put this bullshit story to rest already?
Can we please put this bullshit story to rest already?
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
She and her attorney don't seem intimidated.Seems like Sidney may end up getting her day in court over dominion after all. My only hope is that she is not preemptively pardoned for this libelous campaign—hopefully she can have suits brought against her in ways to obviate such an effort by trump if he attempts it.
Defamation Law Can Slow the Plague of Fake News
(Bloomberg Opinion) -- Misinformation and fake news are now threatening public health and endangering democracy itself. What might help contain the problem? Part of the answer lies in a very old remedy: the law of defamation. To see how this might work, consider the situation of Smartmatic and...
Dominion Voting warns Fox News, Sean Hannity, other conservative outlets that defamation lawsuits are imminent
Media allies of President Trump, such as Fox News, have been sent letters by Dominion Voting Systems about election conspiracy claims.
Here is their statement direct to Powell:
Dominion Demands Retraction of Sidney Powell's Defamatory Falsehoods - Dominion Voting Systems
Latest News December 17, 2020 Dominion Demands Retraction of Sidney Powell’s Defamatory Falsehoods DENVER, Colorado – Yesterday, legal representatives for Dominion Voting Systems issued a letter to Sidney Powell regarding her baseless and false accusations about the company over the past two...
Let me see if I understand this:
Sidney Powell says she has Dominion Servers that were confiscated in a military raid - people here say "bullshit" even though the proof has yet to be produced.
Dominion says "nothing happened" and threatens to sue - the same people here believe it all, even though there has been no proof that the servers weren't confiscated.
This is starting to sound like a religious cult.
Sidney Powell says she has Dominion Servers that were confiscated in a military raid - people here say "bullshit" even though the proof has yet to be produced.
Dominion says "nothing happened" and threatens to sue - the same people here believe it all, even though there has been no proof that the servers weren't confiscated.
This is starting to sound like a religious cult.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Ummm....now we need to affirm a negative? That's not how this works.
Wouldn't Dominion have to prove that sidney was lying?
I mean, it would be SO easy to show the judge their servers. "See, here they are".
But the point to all of this is that people decry one side's statement even though they haven't seen any evidence, yet blindly believe the other side, also absent any evidence (even if that evidence is Sidney telling a Judge "oops, I lied").
It tells a lot about a person' beliefs and where they stand in the midst of this political bullshit.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
There is no proof that the election was conducted fairly, but people seem to accept that without question.
No, they wouldn't.
The compliants needs to prove their accusations, not the other way around. If you don't like that logic, then YOU raped that girl, unless of course you can prove you didn't...